Re: More in Government Corruption
 

That part would be fine if it was a blind trust, but it's not.

Re: If it quacks like duck tape....
 

This seems like a real scandal, too.

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

Hey, we follow Flower's rules here. That first point is not a fact. It's just you talking out of your ass. (Alternatively, you understand spy and ambassador are synonyms on 4-6 days of the week, and ambassadors have been monitored by the Obama Admin. As have heads of state, visiting royalty, etc. Recall the Merkel Debacle?)

I'm not buying into shit. I'm just throwing some stink bombs into your indignation parade.

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

This dipshittery right here? This is why you keep losing elections.

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

You're absolutely right. Because this country is full of racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, ignorant assholes (or at best, full of people who are okay with this shit), it's probably better politics to just be outright racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, and ignorant.

TM

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

Trump got the lowest share of women's vote since the 19th Amendment was passed. More than 80% of the phone calls inundating Washington are coming from women. This is why your boys are living on borrowed time.

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

You know you're going to hurt his little feelings?

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

While we're on the topic of racists in the White House, more news today:

http://forward.com/news/national/367...ent-anti-semi/


And on the Russian front, it's also been fast-moving, not just the Blackwater story but now this: https://www.buzzfeed.com/alimwatkins...3dw#.tbqL5VbpK

But I'm sure it's all like a bar fight because Obama had a black woman as National Security Advisory.

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

Fuck yeah! Now you're talking some sense. In Adder's defense, he was probably relying on a CNN story that does not seem to have a lot of substantiation at this point. This is not as patently ridiculous as, for example, stating with absolute certainty something like "NOBODY cares about the Russia issue" contrary to a poll showing that a majority of Americans actually want a special investigation, which is the pure ass talkery that we have come to expect from certain posters here not to be named. So, while I do not believe Adder engaged in the pure ass talking we see from those you-now-whos (it's Sebastian), it is not the type of statement that builds a great deal of credibility for your argument. But credibility and substantiation are things of the distant past, many months distant. Now we just fucking say shit. If we feel it or want to believe it, then it's a motherfucking fact, and there's no need for those bullshit caveats that douchebag lawyers and other pussies use. Just fucking say the damn thing and then say it again, who cares what the truth is, we're manufacturing the fucking truth every time we speak. There's no there there. Hillary loses Pennsylvania by 8 points. The only people who care about the Russia issue are a tiny fraction of the readership of Mother Jones, which is actually a negative percentage of the population of the United States. You know what an alternative fact is? It is a fact that is alternative to the facts cited by fucking pussies.

Going way back to the genesis of funk with some aulde skoole George Clinton. The Parliaments with "Good Old Music." The Daily Dose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-llFfgP5fI

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

I'm sorry. Now I understand. Trump, brilliant SOB he is, orchestrated it so he could target a black female White House NSA Advisor.

Give the investigation time... we'll most assuredly find he specifically picked her out of the all the other available White House NSA Directors based on her background.

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

it is. And you're one of crowd throwing pointless haymakers in the air.

From the Lookout Desk, Edmund Fitzgerald
 

My boys? There you go again.

This is the most infuriating part about the current crop of people screaming about the election. If I fuck with you, I'm automatically a supporter of the other side.

If I've any aim it's to convince you to work outside the system. I actually sympathized with the poor misguided people in Occupy. They got it. You're just a limousine-- errr, Uber XL liberal.

The system is broken. Remove Trump and you'll just get Pence. Elect another Democrat and you'll just more neoliberal economic policies that create further social divisions and higher taxes.

There. Is. No. Fix. We need a giant reset. Sadly, because people like us and our spoiled baby boomer parents were only concerned with keeping the status quo in place thru unrealistic promises, its past the available political salves.

If you think taxes will fix it, to borrow from Lemmy, "get back in line." And get a fucking math tutor.

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

Isn't throwing haymakers in the air necessarily pointless? Unless you're, like, fighting bats.

Re: Aca
 

If you're not going to read what I said, why bother? Why not just post, "I don't get it but am saying the same things again and again."

I'm not missing it at all. I'm assuming that you're right about it for purposes of this conversation. What you don't get is that enabling insurers to offer that kind of coverage to everyone instead of just some people under 30 may, as a practical matter, prevent anyone from buying the sort of coverage that the ACA now requires, e.g., coverage of pre-existing conditions.

You're talking about rights, and I'm not. I'm saying libertarianism has a massive blind spot here, one you are doing your best to show off.

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

Enough of this Clinton Funk. Give the people some 3 Doors Down!

Re: From the Lookout Desk, Edmund Fitzgerald
 

The people who elected these Republicans, which includes you, need to take responsibility for them and fix them. You want a more libertarian party? Go do battle with the evangelicals and get one.

But take some responsibility for your shit.

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

The Kremlin put out a statement saying he's not a spy after wide-spread discussion of the fact that he's a known spy. What more evidence do you need?

Right. We monitor a variety of foreign agents. Team 45 has just confirmed that members of the transition were talking to some of them.

You're repeating Mike Cernovic's big scoop like it means something. Next you're going to tell me about Hillary's satanic pizza restaurant child sex ring.

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

You are fucking embarrassing yourself.

TM

Re: From the Lookout Desk, Edmund Fitzgerald
 

You realize that we all know that this act where you act like you're just standing on the outside fucking with the tribal idiots is pure bullshit, right? You lay out your beliefs again and again and again. Maybe you don't realize it. That's surely possible. But we all know what you're about.

And anyone who gets frustrated and quits the board and then comes back with a furious amount of posts about how no one cares about an issue you won't shut the fuck up about cannot claim to be fucking with anyone.

TM

Re: From the Lookout Desk, Edmund Fitzgerald
 

Sorry. I know this doesn't work in your lizard brain view of the world, but I don't give a fuck. My sole enjoyment is poking anything and anyone involved in groupthink of any kind.

You're so "exercised" about it all. And so clueless.

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

I know. He clearly unfairly picked her out of a lineup of White House NSA Advisors.

It's all misogyny. Not just politics at all.

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

That's what I was going for, but yours is a much better analogy.

However, the drunken element of Irish Bar Fight delivers the perfect image.

The media's already split into two warring factions (British, effectively), the Right and Left Wing social media completely batshit crazy and angry as all fuck, the Senate about to go nuclear on Gorsuch, some new ACHA mess rolling out Friday (to certain failure), and the whole country having a nervous breakdown.

And all we can do is blame each other and pick sides. Simple fucks we are.

Re: From the Lookout Desk, Edmund Fitzgerald
 

I have. I ignored the rot for years. I'm still in favor of neoliberal economics. Let them eat cake. And let's just keep making promises we can't keep, to sustain this status quo that keeps me in a nice standard of living. Nevermind the debt. Nevermind we're a joke that bridges itself from one bubble to the next with financial alchemy and monetary policy. Nevermind the income inequality (which cannot be fixed with taxes). Nevermind the underfunded pensions. Nevermind the police state. Nevermind the domestic spying.

What do think causes a Trump to appear? Are you all so bullshitted, so clueless, as to think this is all just an underclass of xenophobia suddenly arisen?

This has been coming a long time. For reasons far too many to list here.

But you all go on... blame it on somebody. Pick a side.

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

I can lay claim to having been in precisely one wild, free-for-all bar fight (Chicago, 1984), which I suspect is one more than you.

It may look like a goat rodeo from the door, but generally in your little part of it you have a pretty good idea of who is hitting you and who you are hitting. If you're throwing haymakers in the air, best just lie down and play dead.

Re: From the Lookout Desk, Edmund Fitzgerald
 

Nevermind the policies that actually work because I'm above it all!

I've just realized that you're just completely clueless about American history. There's nothing sudden about this. America is and always has been deeply racist and xenophobic (like, seriously, anti-foreigner is third only to pro-slavery and anti-native as America's oldest ugly underbelly). Trump's just the latest manifestation in backlash to the meaningful progress that's been made over the last two decades (yes, even during the W years) in equality for women, LGBT, and religious minorities that was actually threatening to spill over to valuing the lives of black people.

Re: From the Lookout Desk, Edmund Fitzgerald
 

Again, you don't get it. You're not poking anyone. You just post stupid shit.

TM

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

I would explain why what you're saying is so fucking stupid, but the fact that you're even making the argument means it's a waste of time.

TM

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

Maybe it would not be a complete waste of time, right? Could be fun?

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

No barfights. But you think this is the only place I've run my mouth? I still have a click in my jaw from a buddy popping me for talking shit.

ETA: I hold a few more Ws than Ls, but I have had my ass kicked quite badly. Everyone should get kicked in the face once. Gives a man a precise understanding of his limitations.

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

Result v. Intent? Or what other insipid trope?

Re: From the Lookout Desk, Edmund Fitzgerald
 

1. Those are not effective policies. They're bandaids on melanoma.

2. Trump's an economic phenomenon as much as a social one.

Re: From the Lookout Desk, Edmund Fitzgerald
 

This is bullshit that you believe in spite of evidence, not because of it (see: a decade and a half of you saying that same shit regardless of current conditions).

See above.

Re: From the Lookout Desk, Edmund Fitzgerald
 

Speaking of America's oldest ugly underbelly, what the fuck is up with Roger Ailes? That dude is like Jabba the Hut but with more questionable politics.

Re: From the Lookout Desk, Edmund Fitzgerald
 

I'm just enjoying watching the advertiser exodus from O'Reilly.

Yeah, O'Reilly, you pervert, you've abused, attacked and harassed women for years, but now the Times is on it and Maddow is whipping your ass in the ratings. You're going to get taken down by a lesbian and a gray lady!

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

Why do all small-handed dudes sound alike?

Re: From the Lookout Desk, Edmund Fitzgerald
 

I am not going to sit here listening to old, bloated, balding creeps being compared to Jabba the hut............. you might run Wonk off! Ha ha, J.K.

Re: From the Lookout Desk, Edmund Fitzgerald
 

O.K., so I just did a quick Google search and apparently I am the last person in America to make to Ailes-Jabba connection.

Re: From the Lookout Desk, Edmund Fitzgerald
 

How about this comparison?:

https://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/...on-stubble.jpg

v.

http://www.moviefancentral.com/image...jpg?1286278093

TM

Re: L'affaire Rice
 

Remember the word "tool"?

Re: From the Lookout Desk, Edmund Fitzgerald
 

The only thing more pathetic than watching either of those shows would be to give a flying fuck which one of them was beating the other.

Reacquaint yourself with masturbation. Time much better spent, and at least productive of something.