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sebastian_dangerfield 11-21-2019 11:27 AM

Re: Sebby's on it.
 
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Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore (Post 526260)
AON, did you watch the PBS "Country" Series? Jesus, you, me, and a few others have called out this for decades.

I'm a punk, blues, metal, jazz, hip-hop, country in that order.

Johnny Cash is the fucking G.O.A.T.

You're the fourth or fifth person to tell me I need to see it.

sebastian_dangerfield 11-21-2019 11:28 AM

Re: Sebby's on it.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 526256)
I'm not sure my person was an overdose, but I understand they happen. My person grew up smoking like a normal American kid. He knew what he was doing. But somehow he was convinced that eating massive doses of concentrated oils would help him get to some higher plane. And then he’d pass out in the middle of dinner or burp excessively, or do this back and forth pacing we called elephant walk, or stare at strangers and start giggling- but none of that prepared us for Trump calling him.

I’m not talking about accidentally taking a bit too much. I’m talking about doing it intentionally, then doing it again tomorrow.

That's such a strange usage I don't even know how to categorize it. Repeated Intentional Overdose is not a clinical term I think anyone regularly, or even rarely, hears.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-21-2019 11:38 AM

Re: Sebby's on it.
 
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Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore (Post 526260)
AON, did you watch the PBS "Country" Series? Jesus, you, me, and a few others have called out this for decades.

I'm a punk, blues, metal, jazz, hip-hop, country in that order.

Johnny Cash is the fucking G.O.A.T.

Do you mean the Ken Burns one? My sister has a voice credit on it.

I grew up listening to Johnny Cash, but am kind of partial to Leadbelly as the G.O.A.T.

What's wrong with classical music?

Adder 11-21-2019 11:41 AM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
Very much a novice. Went to the Bulldog in Amsterdam and got (I forget what they're called) pre-rolls with tobacco mixed with hash, thinking it would be easier for my ex-smoker wife to smoke. I took one puff, realized that I, who have smoked but was never an actual smoker and hadn't had any tobacco in a long time, could not handle the tobacco. Then didn't manage to get to another shop until the last day, when I bought a brownie labelled "strong." It was the only edible on offer.

Did the novice thing, ate half, waited, didn't feel anything and ate the other half. Didn't really sleep that night and was definitely high on the way home the next day, but there was nothing unpleasant or psychotic about it. Probably actually helped me be more relaxed while travelling.

sebastian_dangerfield 11-21-2019 12:36 PM

Re: Sebby's on it.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 526265)
Do you mean the Ken Burns one? My sister has a voice credit on it.

I grew up listening to Johnny Cash, but am kind of partial to Leadbelly as the G.O.A.T.

What's wrong with classical music?

Isn't Leadbelly more blues than country? I know Cash straddled rock, blues, and country, usually in the same song, so the comparison of Leadbelly to him fits, but are you saying Leadbelly also did country as well as blues, like Cash? I didn't know that.

(BTW, I listened to Cobain's meltdown doing the acoustic "Where Did You Sleep last Night" on MTV Unplugged the other day. That still sends shivers down my spine. You can feel the man's soul aching to exit him in that final scream.)

For GOAT on blues, you have to consider Howlin' Wolf. And of course Willie Dixon (genius songwriter).

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-21-2019 12:47 PM

Re: Sebby's on it.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 526267)
Isn't Leadbelly more blues than country? I know Cash straddled rock, blues, and country, usually in the same song, so the comparison fits, but I had no idea Leadbelly did country as well as blues.

(BTW, I listened to Cobain's meltdown doing the acoustic "Where Did You Sleep last Night" on MTV Unplugged the other day. That still sends shivers down my spine. You can feel the man's soul aching to exit him in that final scream.)

For GOAT on blues, you have to consider Howlin' Wolf. And of course Willie Dixon (genius songwriter).

The closest thing you get to a meaningful distinction between a lot of old blues and a lot of old country is that the old blues musicians were black and the old country musicians were white, but before you go applying that distinction anywhere you have to go to a Rhiannon Giddens concert and hear her show you why doesn't really work and is more a function of the way country got packaged as a genre later on, targeting white folks. The bleaching of country music, and why Jazz didn't get bleached in the same way, is a fascinating topic. CBGB & OMFUGs got it.

Rhiannon Giddens, anyway, is a goddess and may well be the right one to give G.O.A.T. status to.

ThurgreedMarshall 11-21-2019 01:03 PM

Re: Sebby's on it.
 
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Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore (Post 526258)
You saw 2 people have this "incident" in my 450sf apartment. You actually helped (thanks). What the flying fuck?

I log in for this, TM? Good good.

-SNM

Uh...that wasn't weed.

TM

Tyrone Slothrop 11-21-2019 01:23 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
This is pretty good, and I don't usually pass along stuff tweeted out by Bill Kristol.

Icky Thump 11-21-2019 03:01 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 526270)
This is pretty good, and I don't usually pass along stuff tweeted out by Bill Kristol.

Fat cheeseburger eatin mofo

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-21-2019 03:30 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
I'm worried.

It's clear that facts and logic are on the Dem's side in these hearings.

But the Republicans are talking louder and faster and repeat their points more, regardless of facts and logic.

ThurgreedMarshall 11-21-2019 04:00 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 526272)
I'm worried.

It's clear that facts and logic are on the Dem's side in these hearings.

But the Republicans are talking louder and faster and repeat their points more, regardless of facts and logic.

Honestly, what are you worried about? Trump not being removed for office for the many high crimes and misdemeanors he's committed? The Republican Party ceding our government to obvious Russian influence? The ending of one Party's respect for the rule of law, our three branch system of government, and the Constitution itself? The abandonment of Democracy when such abandonment benefits the Republican Party? The destruction of any type of standard for lifetime federal court appointments? I can go on and on. But I need you to be more specific about what you're worried about.

TM

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-21-2019 04:26 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 526273)
Honestly, what are you worried about? Trump not being removed for office for the many high crimes and misdemeanors he's committed? The Republican Party ceding our government to obvious Russian influence? The ending of one Party's respect for the rule of law, our three branch system of government, and the Constitution itself? The abandonment of Democracy when such abandonment benefits the Republican Party? The destruction of any type of standard for lifetime federal court appointments? I can go on and on. But I need you to be more specific about what you're worried about.

TM

Sure I worry about all of that stuff, but, really, isn't the biggest worry that while the Democrats are all pretty good, none of them are perfect? Maybe we need a third party candidate.

sebastian_dangerfield 11-21-2019 04:55 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 526272)
I'm worried.

It's clear that facts and logic are on the Dem's side in these hearings.

But the Republicans are talking louder and faster and repeat their points more, regardless of facts and logic.

Dude, Trump trails Bernie among the latest poll of registered voters. He’s only beating Pete by 4 points. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-neck-matchups

Maybe you give Bernie the VP slot and Warren the Treasury Secretary post in exchange for them getting behind Joe?

I know it sounds nuts, but the punnet square here keeps requiring some place for Bernie and Liz.

Tyrone Slothrop 11-21-2019 05:11 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 526275)
Dude, Trump trails Bernie among the latest poll of registered voters. He’s only beating Pete by 4 points. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...-neck-matchups

Maybe you give Bernie the VP slot and Warren the Treasury Secretary post in exchange for them getting behind Joe?

I know it sounds nuts, but the punnet square here keeps requiring some place for Bernie and Liz.

This time four years ago, Trump was polling at 31%. Of course, we all know that Republicans are wired to circle the wagons and support the party, while Democrats are fractious and impossible to unify. Thinking that you can square that circle by picking the right two Democrats (or in Bernie's case, a Democrat and Bernie) is a fool's errand. It's so attractive because it's doomed to fail. One of these Democrats is going to turn out to be good at being other Democrats' second choice, and is going to consolidate support.

sebastian_dangerfield 11-21-2019 05:19 PM

Vf
 
This article is solid except where it tries to force the argument the Ds must present themselves as moderate to win.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...ate-key-voters

SlaveNoMore 11-21-2019 05:35 PM

Since GGG asked...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 526265)
Do you mean the Ken Burns one? My sister has a voice credit on it.

Seriously? That's awesome. Good for her.

Quote:

I grew up listening to Johnny Cash, but am kind of partial to Leadbelly as the G.O.A.T.

What's wrong with classical music?
"Catrin" sings with MTT and the SF Symphony, and I have had, at several points in my [really] weird life, season tix to the Met Opera, the NY Phil, and the SF Opera. We currently have 2 different subscriptions to the SF Symphony - one to attend together and the other so I can see her sing.

So, to genuinely and honestly answer your question, nothing. I don't think of "classical" genre in the same way.

If I did, then I withdraw Cash. Richard Wagner is the G.O.A.T. The overture to Tannhauser is the greatest piece of music ever written, and anyone can disagree, but they'd be fucking wrong.

SN(Great Gates of Kiev is my ringtone - yes, that's Mussorgsky, not Wagner, whatever)M

SlaveNoMore 11-21-2019 05:39 PM

Re: Sebby's on it.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 526269)
Uh...that wasn't weed.

TM

Now that's funny.

SlaveNoMore 11-21-2019 05:47 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 526276)
This time four years ago, Trump was polling at 31%. Of course, we all know that Republicans are wired to circle the wagons and support the party, while Democrats are fractious and impossible to unify. Thinking that you can square that circle by picking the right two Democrats (or in Bernie's case, a Democrat and Bernie) is a fool's errand. It's so attractive because it's doomed to fail. One of these Democrats is going to turn out to be good at being other Democrats' second choice, and is going to consolidate support.

"Republicans" (1) don't usually answer the phone and (2) lie about party preference lest we be Doxxed to hell.

That said, I did recently answer the phone, thinking it was an amazon delivery. I told them I wanted to ban all guns, vote for Warren, and abort all children up to 6 years old.

Trump is "under-polling" (not a word, but you get it), by 8-15%

PS - let's grab lunch or drinks soon when you are up North. - K

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-21-2019 05:52 PM

Re: Since GGG asked...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore (Post 526278)
Seriously? That's awesome. Good for her.



"Catrin" sings with MTT and the SF Symphony, and I have had, at several points in my [really] weird life, season tix to the Met Opera, the NY Phil, and the SF Opera. We currently have 2 different subscriptions to the SF Symphony - one to attend together and the other so I can see her sing.

So, to genuinely and honestly answer your question, nothing. I don't think of "classical" genre in the same way.

If I did, then I withdraw Cash. Richard Wagner is the G.O.A.T. The overture to Tannhauser is the greatest piece of music ever written, and anyone can disagree, but they'd be fucking wrong.

SN(Great Gates of Kiev is my ringtone - yes, that's Mussorgsky, not Wagner, whatever)M

damn man, the days I mostly agree with you always make me question myself

ah, well, the unquestioned life isn't worth living, right?

Tyrone Slothrop 11-21-2019 06:48 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore (Post 526280)
"Republicans" (1) don't usually answer the phone and (2) lie about party preference lest we be Doxxed to hell.

That said, I did recently answer the phone, thinking it was an amazon delivery. I told them I wanted to ban all guns, vote for Warren, and abort all children up to 6 years old.

Trump is "under-polling" (not a word, but you get it), by 8-15%

PS - let's grab lunch or drinks soon when you are up North. - K

When I get a call from a pollster, I tell them that I'm a member of the Peter Pinguid Society, so I guess we cancel out, although these days the valence of that reference doesn't quite work.

Emailed you yesterday -- you may have emailed me back -- I've spent my few spare minutes watching Fiona Hill "destroy" (hi, Sebby).

Tyrone Slothrop 11-21-2019 06:57 PM

authoritarianism!
 
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Sebbys suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."

eta: Also this.

SlaveNoMore 11-21-2019 09:09 PM

Re: Since GGG asked...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 526281)
damn man, the days I mostly agree with you always make me question myself

The old grey vitriol ain't what it used to be...

Quote:

ah, well, the unquestioned life isn't worth living, right?
Raising a glass and an olive branch, GGG. Toast. Salut!

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-21-2019 09:14 PM

Re: Since GGG asked...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore (Post 526284)
The old grey vitriol ain't what it used to be...



Raising a glass and an olive branch, GGG. Toast. Salut!

Salut!

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-21-2019 09:19 PM

Re: Since GGG asked...
 
Face it, people. We all wish we'd made this call.

https://publish.twitter.com/?query=h...0&widget=Tweet

Icky Thump 11-21-2019 09:20 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 526282)
When I get a call from a pollster . . . .

What my phone calls with pollsters sound like

https://youtu.be/xN0vUlljX0I?t=116

SlaveNoMore 11-21-2019 09:38 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 526287)
What my phone calls with pollsters sound like

https://youtu.be/xN0vUlljX0I?t=116

Or Wendy O. Pollsters always have that raspy, smoky voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qbzvNoaVEs

PS - inside joke

Tyrone Slothrop 11-21-2019 11:40 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 526287)
What my phone calls with pollsters sound like

https://youtu.be/xN0vUlljX0I?t=116

I get a lot of calls from push polls on local issues. Not sure why.

Icky Thump 11-22-2019 06:52 AM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore (Post 526288)
Or Wendy O. Pollsters always have that raspy, smoky voice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qbzvNoaVEs

PS - inside joke

There are only 4 insiders here now. This is the old folks home of the internets.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-22-2019 12:24 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 526290)
There are only 4 insiders here now. This is the old folks home of the internets.

We may be old but we're still cool.

Just got an invite to the Grammys, and will get to go up for the award if we win. How cool is that?

Pretty Little Flower 11-22-2019 12:27 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 526291)
We may be old but we're still cool.

Just got an invite to the Grammys, and will get to go up for the award if we win. How cool is that?

The Grammys are fucking stupid.

And that is very cool. Good luck.

Hank Chinaski 11-22-2019 12:37 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 526291)
Just got an invite to the Grammys, and will get to go up for the award if we win. How cool is that?

That'll get me to watch.

How do you go up?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-22-2019 12:58 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 526293)
That'll get me to watch.

How do you go up?

It's a small political award for years of service to the Opera and Orchestra involved in it as well as the record label (it's a label the Orchestra created a few years ago). Who knows, maybe it will change before the event. But we'll just be on the afternoon webcast, they save the evening for the popular music.

sebastian_dangerfield 11-22-2019 01:03 PM

Ok, Bomber
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 526290)
There are only 4 insiders here now. This is the old folks home of the internets.

It reminds me the universe is still an alright joint to know I know someone here was reminded how to make a proper bourbon and coke by Lemmy.

sebastian_dangerfield 11-22-2019 01:12 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 526291)
We may be old but we're still cool.

Just got an invite to the Grammys, and will get to go up for the award if we win. How cool is that?

“Suge Knight is innocent!” Then drop the mic.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-22-2019 01:45 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 526296)
“Sure Knight is innocent!” Then drop the mic.

I'm thinking I may need to throw a party to celebrate the nomination, another chance to invite everyone but Alan Dershowitz.

Hank Chinaski 11-22-2019 01:52 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 526297)
I'm thinking I may need to throw a party to celebrate the nomination, another chance to invite everyone but Alan Dershowitz.

You wanna do something nice for Boston? Get to someone on the Charles River bike path and donate enough to stick a couple porta-pottys out in the winter. They know people using the path shit, because they have public restrooms in a few seasonal buildings, but they lock them up come November. Tell them in TCOTU they got em on the river every few miles.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-22-2019 02:37 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 526298)
You wanna do something nice for Boston? Get to someone on the Charles River bike path and donate enough to stick a couple porta-pottys out in the winter. They know people using the path shit, because they have public restrooms in a few seasonal buildings, but they lock them up come November. Tell them in TCOTU they got em on the river every few miles.

It won't happen as long as Charlie Baker is governor. He wants no visible sign that any state services have increased, and that's run by the State Dept. of Conservation. They especially like scrimping on little stuff.

Icky Thump 11-22-2019 03:34 PM

Re: Ok, Bomber
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 526295)
It reminds me the universe is still an alright joint to know I know someone here was reminded how to make a proper bourbon and coke by Lemmy.

You fucked up. Jack and Coke. Don't make that mistake. Jack ain't bourbon. Lemmy wouldn't be caught drinking bourbon or snorting coke.

sebastian_dangerfield 11-22-2019 03:51 PM

Re: Ok, Bomber
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 526300)
You fucked up. Jack and Coke. Don't make that mistake. Jack ain't bourbon. Lemmy wouldn't be caught drinking bourbon or snorting coke.

Freudian slip. Jack is not bourbon. Personally, if there’s good bourbon around, I wouldn’t use Jack for any purpose at all. But I would not have said such a thing to Lemmy.

I am, however, deeply embarrassed by that fuck up. I do not deserve to use “Dr. Rock” as my wake up ringtone anymore.

I know he was a staunch advocate of speed over Coke, for economic and utility purposes. But he must’ve downshifted to blow every now and again.

sebastian_dangerfield 11-22-2019 03:53 PM

Re: Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 526297)
I'm thinking I may need to throw a party to celebrate the nomination, another chance to invite everyone but Alan Dershowitz.

I don’t know if this is true or legend, but a friend of mine who has a place in the vineyard told me there is some clothing optional beach that Dershowitz is occasionally seen on, walking in nothing but a T-shirt.

Regarding the image I just put in your head, you’re welcome. Now clean that vomit off your desk.


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