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Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-08-2016 05:27 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 500264)
I don't know what it is, but I know anyone saying it's more "truly American" than that of our first metropolis is talking shit I'd be pleased to see him spout from a bullhorn on a street corner in Bedford Stuyvesant or Staten Island.

Well, Bed-Stuy would be fun to watch because there's be all the rotten vegetables getting tossed. But out on the Island, said person would just quietly disappear.

Sidd Finch 04-08-2016 05:29 PM

Re: Hilary had nothing to do with UBS
 
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Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 500267)
No. That's not good enough. I want to vote for someone I believe will do a good job and someone who thinks the same things I think are important are important. Wendy's is better than McDonald's, but I don't buy my lunch at either place.

Do you choose to starve instead? Do you say "I don't like Wendy's or McDonald's, and the place I really want to have lunch to day is that little place in Paris I went to once that was excellent, so I will vote to have lunch at the Paris place, even though I cannot realistically get there today"?

Sidd Finch 04-08-2016 05:30 PM

Re: Arise, ye workers from your slumber.
 
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Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 500268)
I'd love to have an Elizabeth Warrant to vote for. Unfortunately, the Senate can't spare her.


You should write her in. After all, she's the ideal candidate for you. Not like that would be a protest vote or anything

Sidd Finch 04-08-2016 05:31 PM

Re: Arise, ye workers from your slumber.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 500270)
Quit attributing shit to me that I didn't say. I say enough stupid shit myself without you putting words in my mouth.

I apologize for overstating the thought that had gone into Bernie's "plan". I should have recognized that when people think they've found the Messiah, they tend to stop asking about the details.

Hank Chinaski 04-08-2016 06:55 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 500278)
Well, Bed-Stuy would be fun to watch because there's be all the rotten vegetables getting tossed.

depends on the neighborhood. just as likely to have bearded hipsters quietly making snide comments to each other about him, for a few minutes, then leaving.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-08-2016 09:53 PM

Re: MONEY IS BAD, SEND IT TO ME
 
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 500281)
I apologize for overstating the thought that had gone into Bernie's "plan". I should have recognized that when people think they've found the Messiah, they tend to stop asking about the details.

Sidd. Remember your blood pressure. Calm Down.

It's just another preacher infomercial on a loop. Turn the channel. It will run its course.

Tyrone Slothrop 04-09-2016 02:27 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 500248)
For today's update in the incompetence of the Trump campaign, I bring you Colorado.

Colorado has 37 delegates: 3 for state GOP leaders, 13 at-large delegates representing the entire state, and 21 for the state Congressional Districts (3 per Congressional district). The CD delegates are being elected this week and the state-wide delegates will be elected at the state convention tomorrow. Ted Cruz was generally the only one who has been active in securing CO delegates (no surprise), but over the past couple of days Trump realized that he may need some organizational help in that regard and that winning states is only the first step in the process. It seems his hiring of the "best people" hasn't been enough.

CO has allowed each delegate to decide whether to endorse a candidate on the first ballot. Ted Cruz swept the first day, and Donald canceled his attendance at the convention Saturday to stay in NY, but Trump did submit a slate of delegates for district #7 yesterday. Unfortunately, his slate was filled with Cruz supporters. All three delegates were on the Cruz slate as was the first alternate. Of the remaining two alternates, one was unpledged and one a non-slate Cruz supporter. To add insult to injury, two of Trump's delegates didn't even show up on the ballot because they didn't pay the fee. Shockingly, Cruz swept all of the delegates in district #7.

Even when Trump tries to play the delegate game, rather than ignoring it, he fails pretty awesomely. Cue up complaints about how Lyin' Ted "stole" his CO delegates.

I get that Trump doesn't play the game well, and that we lawyers especially should hold that against him. But when Trump underperforms in the delegate count relative to his popular support with GOP primary voters, don't you think it's going to be a problem for the party too?

Tyrone Slothrop 04-09-2016 02:33 AM

Re: Hilary had nothing to do with UBS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 500267)
No. That's not good enough. I want to vote for someone I believe will do a good job and someone who thinks the same things I think are important are important.

Me too. And sometimes I also want a pony.

eta: Not to eat, though.

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Wendy's is better than McDonald's, but I don't buy my lunch at either place.
I hear that, and likewise try to avoid putting myself in a position where I have to choose one or the other or starve. Sometimes that takes some work.

SEC_Chick 04-09-2016 08:40 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 500286)
I get that Trump doesn't play the game well, and that we lawyers especially should hold that against him. But when Trump underperforms in the delegate count relative to his popular support with GOP primary voters, don't you think it's going to be a problem for the party too?

But I think, if anything, he has overperformed in delegate count relative to his support with voters. Does he not have a higher percentage of delegates awarded (at least on the first ballot) than he has won of the popular vote? He generally had an advantage in a crowded field that has now narrowed significantly. He has yet to win a majority in a single state, and is only polling 52% in his home state, when his main competition famously insulted it, and his other competition hasn't won a single delegate since Rubio dropped out weeks ago.

Sidd Finch 04-09-2016 03:36 PM

Re: Hilary had nothing to do with UBS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 500287)
I hear that, and likewise try to avoid putting myself in a position where I have to choose one or the other or starve. Sometimes that takes some work.


And when you are in a restaurant that has only chicken and beef on the menu, do you order the fish? Because, you know, you shouldn't be limited to choosing only what is actually there....

Tyrone Slothrop 04-09-2016 08:28 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 500288)
But I think, if anything, he has overperformed in delegate count relative to his support with voters. Does he not have a higher percentage of delegates awarded (at least on the first ballot) than he has won of the popular vote? He generally had an advantage in a crowded field that has now narrowed significantly. He has yet to win a majority in a single state, and is only polling 52% in his home state, when his main competition famously insulted it, and his other competition hasn't won a single delegate since Rubio dropped out weeks ago.

They all over performed in the delegate count relative to their support with voters, because there were other candidates in the race who have fallen out. Not that you're wrong, but I don't think it goes to the point I was trying to make.

SEC_Chick 04-11-2016 10:03 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 500292)
They all over performed in the delegate count relative to their support with voters, because there were other candidates in the race who have fallen out. Not that you're wrong, but I don't think it goes to the point I was trying to make.

I see your point, but it is pretty much entirely the fault of "I hire the best people" Donald Trump. I think that the Cruz campaign is playing by the rules in a much more honorable way than Trump surrogates who suggest the violent intimidation of delegates in Cleveland to get their way. And I think that, generally speaking, the rules on the R side are much more fair.

On the Dem side, for example, Bernie won Wyoming with 56% of the vote. But because of the way the delegates are allocated and super delegates, Bernie and Hillary ended up with a 7-7 split on the proportional delegates. And Hillary had already picked up the 4 super delegates. So Bernie won 56% and came in second in the state by 4 delegates. That is an entirely different problem than we have on the R side, and is a lot more contrary to the will of the voters, is it not?


Oh and for the weekend update, Trump is getting his ass handed to him in the selection of the bound delegates in North Carolina. Cruz swept CO and Indiana and went 11 for 12 in Iowa. And quite humorously in CO, where there were several hundred people running to be delegates and they were identified by number only on the ballot, Trump's "best people" put 5 of 13 wrong numbers, and included unpledged delegates and a Cruz supporter on its voter recommendations. The alternate slate also included numbers of Cruz supporters. Then the campaign put out an updated slate, but still included the Cruz supporter on it. Only a real crack campaign apparatus tells people to vote for the other guys in multiple states. It's not the rules that are the problem. The problem is the Trump campaign. To his credit, he did shut out Cruz delegates in Michigan over the weekend from the important rules committees, because the Kasich delegates who said they would vote with the Cruz people turned. Further evidence that Kasich remains only to do Trump's bidding.

As I was saying last week regarding NY and how a lot of Trump supporters won't be able to vote for him... it came out this weekend that Ivanka and Eric Trump can't vote for their father because they didn't change their voter registration by last October. Oops.

Adder 04-11-2016 10:58 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 500295)
On the Dem side, for example, Bernie won Wyoming with 56% of the vote. But because of the way the delegates are allocated and super delegates, Bernie and Hillary ended up with a 7-7 split on the proportional delegates. And Hillary had already picked up the 4 super delegates. So Bernie won 56% and came in second in the state by 4 delegates.

But that's wrong. The super delegates can change their mind and vote Bernie if they want, which is what many did last time around when it became clear that the voters preferred Obama.

All the focus on super delegates is weird. They aren't going to matter.

SEC_Chick 04-11-2016 11:17 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 500296)
But that's wrong. The super delegates can change their mind and vote Bernie if they want, which is what many did last time around when it became clear that the voters preferred Obama.

All the focus on super delegates is weird. They aren't going to matter.

They can change their mind. Or they can tip the scale and give the nomination to the loser in popular votes - by design.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-11-2016 11:28 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 500296)
But that's wrong. The super delegates can change their mind and vote Bernie if they want, which is what many did last time around when it became clear that the voters preferred Obama.

All the focus on super delegates is weird. They aren't going to matter.

I don't get the complaints about superdelegates in caucus states. Bernie won Alaska with a grand total of 440 votes. He got 156 votes in Wyoming. These are tiny, tiny caucuses. There will be many superdelegates elected to the DNC or other offices with more votes than that.

It's one thing to complain about this in NY, where millions of people vote. I understand that, and if I were writing the rules, I'd look at either binding superdelegates in such states on the first ballot or just eliminating or lessening them. But then, if I were writing the rules, we'd eliminate caucuses.

ThurgreedMarshall 04-11-2016 11:33 AM

Today's Morning Briefing from the Times
 
"An international conference on money laundering and financial crimes begins today in Florida, at a time when the topics are under intense scrutiny thanks to the Panama Papers.

There is also renewed attention on big bills.

Lawrence H. Summers, the former Treasury secretary, has been pushing for a global agreement to stop issuing high-denomination notes, and the European Central Bank is considering eliminating the 500-euro note.

The idea is to make it harder for corrupt politicians, drug cartels, tax evaders and terrorists to make large cash transactions that don’t generate electronic records.

Few of us use the $100 bill, and hardly any Europeans come across the 500-euro note on a regular basis.

But lawbreakers would much rather carry a five-pound stack of 500-euro notes, worth $1 million, than a 110-pound pile of $20 bills worth the same amount. (We don’t have that kind of money, but these researchers weighed the bills.)

The U.S. stopped issuing $500, $1,000, $5,000 and $10,000 bills in 1969.

While the notes remain legal tender, any still floating around are most likely fakes."

Summers (just for Sebby): https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...it_nn_20160411

500 Euro Note: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/16/bu...=74468950&_r=1

Here's the paper Summers references: http://www.hks.harvard.edu/centers/m...it_nn_20160411

TM

Sidd Finch 04-11-2016 11:37 AM

Re: Today's Morning Briefing from the Times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 500299)
"An international conference on money laundering and financial crimes begins today in Florida, at a time when the topics are under intense scrutiny thanks to the Panama Papers.

There is also renewed attention on big bills.

Lawrence H. Summers, the former Treasury secretary, has been pushing for a global agreement to stop issuing high-denomination notes, and the European Central Bank is considering eliminating the 500-euro note.

The idea is to make it harder for corrupt politicians, drug cartels, tax evaders and terrorists to make large cash transactions that don’t generate electronic records.

Few of us use the $100 bill, and hardly any Europeans come across the 500-euro note on a regular basis.

But lawbreakers would much rather carry a five-pound stack of 500-euro notes, worth $1 million, than a 110-pound pile of $20 bills worth the same amount. (We don’t have that kind of money, but these researchers weighed the bills.)

The U.S. stopped issuing $500, $1,000, $5,000 and $10,000 bills in 1969.

While the notes remain legal tender, any still floating around are most likely fakes."

Summers (just for Sebby): https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...it_nn_20160411

500 Euro Note: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/16/bu...=74468950&_r=1

Here's the paper Summers references: http://www.hks.harvard.edu/centers/m...it_nn_20160411

TM


You are the matador, Sebby is the bull, this post is the red towel. Cue the mayhem, and tell Hank to get his clown suit on.

ThurgreedMarshall 04-11-2016 11:42 AM

Re: Hilary had nothing to do with UBS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 500267)
No. That's not good enough. I want to vote for someone I believe will do a good job and someone who thinks the same things I think are important are important. Wendy's is better than McDonald's, but I don't buy my lunch at either place.

I'm kind of sick of this conversation. But that is a terrible analogy given the fact that your choices won't be a pick between Wendy's or McDonalds vs Shit Sandwich Express for the next 4 years.

TM

Adder 04-11-2016 12:12 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 500297)
They can change their mind. Or they can tip the scale and give the nomination to the loser in popular votes - by design.

Right, they are there to protect the party - during the party's candidate selection process - from a candidate like Trump. Or arguably one like Bernie, who only joined for this race.

But the Dem process, in which all states award pledged delegates proportionately, is far less susceptible to nominating someone who lost the overall popular vote than one that features winner take all delegate allotments.

And yet there's all this discussion about how super delegates could do a thing that they've never done and are in little danger of "having" to do and likely would not do even if they "had" to.

Ironically, if the Dem primaries were winner take all, Bernie would not even be close enough to be complaining about super delegates.

Not Bob 04-11-2016 02:04 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 500297)
They can change their mind. Or they can tip the scale and give the nomination to the loser in popular votes - by design.

I agree - the super-delegates are a potentially Not Democratic element to the Democratic Party's presidential nomination process. I think that there are problems with both parties' systems, but I am Not Sure that there are any "perfect" (as defined by who or what, exactly?) solutions. I suspect that there will be some tinkering by both parties after the election.

And I agree with the point you made earlier about Cruz's team knowing the rules and maximizing delegates based upon them knowing the different rules in each state. Even pros who hate him and his politics have expressed admiration for his campaign staff who've maximized his chances to get the nomination by working the rules.

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with it - Obama's team did the same thing in 2008 in places like (I think) Nevada because Mark "Genius" Penn didn't bother to learn the rules because his "shock and awe" strategy lock the nomination up for HRC instantly.

ETA: McGovern did the same thing to HHH in 1972, and Reagan did it to GHWB in 1980.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-11-2016 07:21 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Speaking of hypocritical assholes from Texas....

Hank Chinaski 04-11-2016 07:24 PM

Re: Today's Morning Briefing from the Times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 500300)
and tell Hank to get his clown suit on.

You want it to be one way, you want it to be one way, you want it to be one way, but it's the other way.

Tyrone Slothrop 04-11-2016 10:55 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 500295)
I see your point, but it is pretty much entirely the fault of "I hire the best people" Donald Trump. I think that the Cruz campaign is playing by the rules in a much more honorable way than Trump surrogates who suggest the violent intimidation of delegates in Cleveland to get their way. And I think that, generally speaking, the rules on the R side are much more fair.

On the Dem side, for example, Bernie won Wyoming with 56% of the vote. But because of the way the delegates are allocated and super delegates, Bernie and Hillary ended up with a 7-7 split on the proportional delegates. And Hillary had already picked up the 4 super delegates. So Bernie won 56% and came in second in the state by 4 delegates. That is an entirely different problem than we have on the R side, and is a lot more contrary to the will of the voters, is it not?


Oh and for the weekend update, Trump is getting his ass handed to him in the selection of the bound delegates in North Carolina. Cruz swept CO and Indiana and went 11 for 12 in Iowa. And quite humorously in CO, where there were several hundred people running to be delegates and they were identified by number only on the ballot, Trump's "best people" put 5 of 13 wrong numbers, and included unpledged delegates and a Cruz supporter on its voter recommendations. The alternate slate also included numbers of Cruz supporters. Then the campaign put out an updated slate, but still included the Cruz supporter on it. Only a real crack campaign apparatus tells people to vote for the other guys in multiple states. It's not the rules that are the problem. The problem is the Trump campaign. To his credit, he did shut out Cruz delegates in Michigan over the weekend from the important rules committees, because the Kasich delegates who said they would vote with the Cruz people turned. Further evidence that Kasich remains only to do Trump's bidding.

As I was saying last week regarding NY and how a lot of Trump supporters won't be able to vote for him... it came out this weekend that Ivanka and Eric Trump can't vote for their father because they didn't change their voter registration by last October. Oops.

We lawyers appreciate the way that knowing how to play the process can give you a tactical advantage, and in a race where no one is the clear winner, a tactical advantage may be enough. But most people think that the person who gets the most votes should be the winner, and are apt to see a process that rewards clever tactics as inherently flawed. Trump is running against, in part, government institutions that reward and advantage those who know who to play the inside game, and if the GOP finds a way to exploit process to make someone else the nominee, his voters are going to be royally pissed. As a Democrat, I take some delight in that, but there you go. You are right that the primary process has similar flaws on the Democratic side, but this time around they seem to be somewhat less material, even if Susan Sarandon feels otherwise.

SEC_Chick 04-12-2016 09:11 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 500312)
We lawyers appreciate the way that knowing how to play the process can give you a tactical advantage, and in a race where no one is the clear winner, a tactical advantage may be enough. But most people think that the person who gets the most votes should be the winner, and are apt to see a process that rewards clever tactics as inherently flawed. Trump is running against, in part, government institutions that reward and advantage those who know who to play the inside game, and if the GOP finds a way to exploit process to make someone else the nominee, his voters are going to be royally pissed. As a Democrat, I take some delight in that, but there you go. You are right that the primary process has similar flaws on the Democratic side, but this time around they seem to be somewhat less material, even if Susan Sarandon feels otherwise.

But the basic rule is clear. It takes a majority of the delegates to win on the first ballot. Period. Empirically, Donald Trump has received a larger delegate premium (number of delegates relative to the % of the popular vote) than has Cruz. Nothing that Cruz is doing will matter if Trump wins on the first ballot, the vast majority of delegates Cruz is "winning" lately are bound to vote for Trump on one or more ballots. You can't receive 37% of the vote and then act as if it is unfair that you are not being treated as the winner of a majority. I understand that if the rules said the plurality vote gets the win, that he would have a valid complaint, but the rules have never said that. But his problems are not all due to the superior Cruz organization -- Trump's problems in Indiana are due to a form of wholly organic #NeverTrumpism. The problem for Trump, is he has had a recent stretch of missteps and gaffes, and on top of it has been losing. A lot. Perhaps his campaign would be doing better if he put less effort into whining and more into winning.

I agree it's kind of sucky the CO GOP didn't have a primary or preference straw poll, but that was known last summer. And Trump declined to appear at the CO convention in order to spend more time in NY. You don't see Kasich bitching about it.

ETA: Trump supporters released the home address and phone number of the Chair of the CO GOP, who has now received thousands of threats of bodily injury and death, among other things. And yet it is the Trump campaign who accuses Cruz of Gestapo tactics. Because, as you well know, the Gestapo was infamous for its uncanny knowledge of GOP delegate election rules.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-12-2016 09:57 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 500313)
But the basic rule is clear. It takes a majority of the delegates to win on the first ballot. Period. Empirically, Donald Trump has received a larger delegate premium (number of delegates relative to the % of the popular vote) than has Cruz. Nothing that Cruz is doing will matter if Trump wins on the first ballot, the vast majority of delegates Cruz is "winning" lately are bound to vote for Trump on one or more ballots. You can't receive 37% of the vote and then act as if it is unfair that you are not being treated as the winner of a majority. I understand that if the rules said the plurality vote gets the win, that he would have a valid complaint, but the rules have never said that. But his problems are not all due to the superior Cruz organization -- Trump's problems in Indiana are due to a form of wholly organic #NeverTrumpism. The problem for Trump, is he has had a recent stretch of missteps and gaffes, and on top of it has been losing. A lot. Perhaps his campaign would be doing better if he put less effort into whining and more into winning.

I agree it's kind of sucky the CO GOP didn't have a primary or preference straw poll, but that was known last summer. And Trump declined to appear at the CO convention in order to spend more time in NY. You don't see Kasich bitching about it.

ETA: Trump supporters released the home address and phone number of the Chair of the CO GOP, who has now received thousands of threats of bodily injury and death, among other things. And yet it is the Trump campaign who accuses Cruz of Gestapo tactics. Because, as you well know, the Gestapo was infamous for its uncanny knowledge of GOP delegate election rules.


You, and other Republicans, seem rather put out that Trump is a whiny obstructionist.

I'm just going to let that comment sit there.

SEC_Chick 04-12-2016 10:00 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 500314)
You, and other Republicans, seem rather put out that Trump is a whiny obstructionist.

I'm just going to let that comment sit there.

I don't see how he's obstructionist. He has every right to do what he's doing (except for the part where he accuses Cruz of coordinating with his Super Pac or intimidating or bribing delegates with no evidence). He's just whiny.

And elections have consequences. So perhaps Trump should try winning some.

Sidd Finch 04-12-2016 10:48 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 500313)
ETA: Trump supporters released the home address and phone number of the Chair of the CO GOP, who has now received thousands of threats of bodily injury and death, among other things.


Lovely. The primaries will remain interesting through the convention, and probably beyond.

Pretty Little Flower 04-12-2016 10:51 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 500315)
And elections have consequences.

Whoa. So do revolutions. I'm a little behind on the Daily Dose because of a busy work and social schedule. Sunday night, I checked out rap enigma Jay Electronica (who is known by some as the man who broke up the Kate Rothschild and Ben Goldsmith super-marriage). In his classic Exhibit C, he references this gem, Gil Scott-Heron's ruminations on revolution, which is yesterday's belated Daily Dose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnJFhuOWgXg

sebastian_dangerfield 04-12-2016 12:50 PM

Re: Today's Morning Briefing from the Times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 500299)
"An international conference on money laundering and financial crimes begins today in Florida, at a time when the topics are under intense scrutiny thanks to the Panama Papers.

There is also renewed attention on big bills.

Lawrence H. Summers, the former Treasury secretary, has been pushing for a global agreement to stop issuing high-denomination notes, and the European Central Bank is considering eliminating the 500-euro note.

The idea is to make it harder for corrupt politicians, drug cartels, tax evaders and terrorists to make large cash transactions that don’t generate electronic records.

Few of us use the $100 bill, and hardly any Europeans come across the 500-euro note on a regular basis.

But lawbreakers would much rather carry a five-pound stack of 500-euro notes, worth $1 million, than a 110-pound pile of $20 bills worth the same amount. (We don’t have that kind of money, but these researchers weighed the bills.)

The U.S. stopped issuing $500, $1,000, $5,000 and $10,000 bills in 1969.

While the notes remain legal tender, any still floating around are most likely fakes."

Summers (just for Sebby): https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...it_nn_20160411

500 Euro Note: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/16/bu...=74468950&_r=1

Here's the paper Summers references: http://www.hks.harvard.edu/centers/m...it_nn_20160411

TM

Nope. I'm done with this.

sebastian_dangerfield 04-12-2016 12:57 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick (Post 500315)
I don't see how he's obstructionist. He has every right to do what he's doing (except for the part where he accuses Cruz of coordinating with his Super Pac or intimidating or bribing delegates with no evidence). He's just whiny.

And elections have consequences. So perhaps Trump should try winning some.

Trump and Bernie are running against opponents and their own parties. I'd say they have a right to complain about that.

But you're right -- Trump needs to stop whining about Cruz out-gaming him. What Cruz did in CO was fair under the rules. I don't like it. No one likes that sort of thing. But Trump's a big kid, and he uses rules (bankruptcy, often) to screw other people all the time. And it's not like Cruz isn't exactly the kind of opponent you need to watch like a hawk. The guy's such a despicable, universally loathed piece of garbage, he knows he can't win on straight votes. He's got to try to win with gamesmanship. And he's a lawyer - a brilliant, pathologically ambitious, incredibly devious lawyer.

Donald wasn't watching the shop. When you don't watch the shop, people rob it.

sebastian_dangerfield 04-12-2016 01:04 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 500312)
We lawyers appreciate the way that knowing how to play the process can give you a tactical advantage, and in a race where no one is the clear winner, a tactical advantage may be enough. But most people think that the person who gets the most votes should be the winner, and are apt to see a process that rewards clever tactics as inherently flawed. Trump is running against, in part, government institutions that reward and advantage those who know who to play the inside game, and if the GOP finds a way to exploit process to make someone else the nominee, his voters are going to be royally pissed. As a Democrat, I take some delight in that, but there you go. You are right that the primary process has similar flaws on the Democratic side, but this time around they seem to be somewhat less material, even if Susan Sarandon feels otherwise.

Seventy percent of Bernie's followers said they will not support HRC in a recent poll. Imagine the percentage of Trump supporters who'll refuse to get behind anyone else. 80-90%?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-12-2016 02:44 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz or Donald Trump Satan? Discuss.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 500320)
Seventy percent of Bernie's followers said they will not support HRC in a recent poll. Imagine the percentage of Trump supporters who'll refuse to get behind anyone else. 80-90%?

Yeah, but a large percent of those Bernie supporters will change their mind.

ThurgreedMarshall 04-12-2016 02:50 PM

Re: Today's Morning Briefing from the Times
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 500318)
Nope. I'm done with this.

Not really a challenge. Just some information you might find interesting.

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 04-12-2016 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 500321)
Yeah, but a large percent of those Bernie supporters will change their mind.

And the only people answering those polls are the most ardent Bernie supporters. Everyone else isn't trying to waste their time with those fucking things.

TM

Pretty Little Flower 04-12-2016 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 500323)
And the only people answering those polls are the most ardent Bernie supporters. Everyone else isn't trying to waste their time with those fucking things.

TM

Word. Every minute you spend taking a poll is a minute less you spend living. Last night was night two in a rare 2-shows-in-2-nights run for me. French producer and musician St. Germain. If you you think his ambient house sound is dated, I urge you to see him live. For his eponymous album last year (the first in something like 12 years), he recruited a bunch of African musicians to do a Mali-influenced sound. I think the album is pretty good, but live, his show is fucking great. His band is from all over (I caught Mali, Senegal, Martinique, Guadeloupe, and there were many other countries represented). And they are TIGHT. Anyway, it got me thinking about the cross-pollination between U.S. funk and African sounds in the 70s. James Brown was informing Fela's music and vice versa, and all over Africa (and especially in Nigeria), an American-sounding funk scene was blossoming. Fortunately, a lot of it has been captured and released (or re-released) in various compilation albums. This one is from a band called the Sahara All Stars of Jos, and is called "Take Your Soul." Your Africa-inspired Daily Dose of Funk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt1w...&nohtml5=False

Not Bob 04-12-2016 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 500324)
Word. Every minute you spend taking a poll is a minute less you spend living. Last night was night two in a rare 2-shows-in-2-nights run for me. French producer and musician St. Germain. If you you think his ambient house sound is dated, I urge you to see him live. For his eponymous album last year (the first in something like 12 years), he recruited a bunch of African musicians to do a Mali-influenced sound. I think the album is pretty good, but live, his show is fucking great. His band is from all over (I caught Mali, Senegal, Martinique, Guadeloupe, and there were many other countries represented). And they are TIGHT. Anyway, it got me thinking about the cross-pollination between U.S. funk and African sounds in the 70s. James Brown was informing Fela's music and vice versa, and all over Africa (and especially in Nigeria), an American-sounding funk scene was blossoming. Fortunately, a lot of it has been captured and released (or re-released) in various compilation albums. This one is from a band called the Sahara All Stars of Jos, and is called "Take Your Soul." Your Africa-inspired Daily Dose of Funk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt1w...&nohtml5=False

Have I mentioned how much I enjoy this Daily Dose of Funk mission you have undertaken? "Musical Education Flower" is one of my favorite versions of the 32 flavors (and then some) that is The Pretty Little Flower.

Would it be cliched old white guy of me to mention that "Graceland" was my first experience in knowing that an American album included and had been influenced by the music of African Africans (as opposed to African Americans, a fact that even I was aware of)?

Probably, but this just goes to show you what you are dealing with. Anyway, thanks!

Pretty Little Flower 04-12-2016 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 500325)
Have I mentioned how much I enjoy this Daily Dose of Funk mission you have undertaken? "Musical Education Flower" is one of my favorite versions of the 32 flavors (and then some) that is The Pretty Little Flower.

Would it be cliched old white guy of me to mention that "Graceland" was my first experience in knowing that an American album included and had been influenced by the music of African Africans (as opposed to African Americans, a fact that even I was aware of)?

Probably, but this just goes to show you what you are dealing with. Anyway, thanks!

You have mentioned it, but thanks. Graceland was 1986? I don't think I was listening to much if any African music at the time, and I was certainly introduced to Ladysmith Black Mambazo by that album. So no shame there as far as I am concerned.

Not Bob 04-12-2016 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 500330)
You have mentioned it, but thanks. Graceland was 1986? I don't think I was listening to much if any African music at the time, and I was certainly introduced to Ladysmith Black Mambazo by that album. So no shame there as far as I am concerned.

Yes, 1986. And it was a bit controversial because he recorded it in Johannesburg in violation of the cultural boycott* of apartheid-era South Africa that was in effect at the time. But for a good reason, perhaps? I don't know.

*See e.g. "I ain't gonna play Sun City!"

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-12-2016 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 500323)
And the only people answering those polls are the most ardent Bernie supporters. Everyone else isn't trying to waste their time with those fucking things.

TM

To be fair, those people are justifiably angry that their candidate has had this election stolen from him by all those people voting against him.

LessinSF 04-12-2016 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 500332)
Yes, 1986. And it was a bit controversial because he recorded it in Johannesburg in violation of the cultural boycott* of apartheid-era South Africa that was in effect at the time. But for a good reason, perhaps? I don't know.

*See e.g. "I ain't gonna play Sun City!"

In your Eyes by Gabriel with Youssou N'Dour was also 1986.


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