Speaking of kids....
 

I know one guy who would say this. He's an asshole. He's also the only guy I know who really thinks this.

I know of no one else in my circle of parent-friends ("circle jerks"?) who regrets having had kids. I don't mean, who says they regret having kids, but who truly does regret having kids (and I'm only counting the ones whose inner feelings I think I have an accurate handle on.) So, I think the article is skewed. (I will admit that, like most on these boards, I hang around with people a bit off the poverty line, and, while money can't buy happiness, it can buy your kids bikes so that they leave you alone for a few minutes, giving you a better chance to go and look for happiness without being bothered by a request for yogurt or a ride or homework help or . . . and maybe poor people have more stress and actually DO regret having kids - but I just don't see it.

underrated spooge
 

Vitamin E. If you eat a lot of vitamin E, for some wierd reason, you seem more horned up all the time and the "volume per shot" goes up substantially.

S(still don't know the medical reason for this, but its a fact)D

25 Sequels this year
 

Is that the same movie as Desperado with Antonio Banderas and Salma Hayek? Or have I mis-named the movie? Or just otherwise confused?

kidless
 

It's interesting that you say that. I have always wanted to be a mother, but have lately started to realize that I am not that crazy about kids. I do like babies, even when they cry, and when I see them or think about them, I have this very primal nurturing instinct and a strong craving to satisfy it. Ultimately, though, I fear my relationship with my child won't be as satisfying as I've imagined/fantasized.

I always joked that I got a puppy as a trial run for having a kid (and I never meant that to trivialize the experience of child-rearing). But now I'm starting to think that it's a substitute. Taking good care of her satisfies that nurturing instinct to a degree. In return, the dog is reliably cute, sweet, obedient, entertaining, and adoring. My poor kid wouldn't be able to compete!

r("Why can't you be more like your sister?" "Mom, she's a dog.")p

25 Sequels this year
 

Yes.

I do my best thinkin on the bus
 

How do you know? What if before the kids are born they are like little puffs of spiritual smoke in some ethereal third dimension waiting to be born. And while they are waiting, at night, while we sleep, they sneak into our bedrooms (actually if they are spirits they don't have to sneak but whatever) and whisper in our ears "birth me, birth me now", "don't use a condom, go bareback", "don't pull out don't pull out", "pepperoni pizza" and other such subliminal exhortations????

Never thought of that, didja?

In honor of mothers' day
 

I don't think you're going to find much opposition to your decision on this board.

TM

kidless
 

I'm convinced those people are called fathers. ;) I love my kids very much, think they are generally pretty well behaved as kids go, but thank God that mrs. fish, is far more patient with them than I.

I'm not sure if this is nature or nurture. Any thoughts from others who have kids?

Speaking of kids....
 

I also know of no one who wishes their kids weren't around. But, I do know of a few people who wish that they had decided to procreate with a different partner. I think, generally, that if someone has distaste for their kids, they also probably don't like their spouse much.

Speaking of kids...
 

Man, I have always wanted to do that and thought about it a couple of times when confronted by the Catholic mother-in-law who keeps asking me if I'M SURE. Yes, I'm sure. I have been sure for many years. The continual badgering will NOT change my mind. On the other hand "it's none of your fucking business" doesn't get the right reaction no matter how badly I want to say it to people. Any other suggestions as to what to tell people (even co-workers) who ask when you're going to have kids?

kidless
 

There is a woman here who refers to her pets are her kids to the degree that someone said to me wait, I didn't know so and so had kids. Now that is a little scary. I jokingly call my cats my kids from time to time, but everyone knows I am joking, and lord knows I hope if I do have kids I treat them with a little more consideration then shoving them off the couch and saying I told you to get the fuck away from me didn't I?

I enjoy kids, but I am not sure I have the patience to be a mother. I also have some concerns about making sure they have a good male role model, but that is a whole different issue.

In honor of mothers' day
 

My tendency has been to offer a simple, unapologetic "I'm not." People then react one of two ways: (1) "you hate all kids, you monstrous unwomanly unnatural freak" or (2) "of course you will I didn't realize until I had them that my life was utterly empty and meaningless before".

This pisses me off then because (1) while I may or may not (and may certainly find your own kids unbearable), it doesn't lessen my essential decency as a person, and either way I'd never be rude enough to say so and (2) while your life may be a miserable useless pile of crap without kids, mine is actually pretty damn great. But there's no way to convince people without acting like I'm justifying my actions, which I won't do for some graceless idiot.

25 Sequels this year
 

Yes and no.

Rodriquez originally directed El Mariachi for about 10K on his credit cards.

It made such a splash that he re-made his own movie, the big budget Hayek [drool] vehicle "Desperado".

Some people call it a remake - others call it a sequel.

not7y(go Ducks)S

I do my best thinkin on the bus
 

Can't say I ever did.

I don't know why it wouldn't occur to me that someone would be a puff of spiritual smoke whispering in your ear, don't use a condom, don't pull out don't pull out.

I knew you were strange Penske. But I had no idea you were this strange.

kidless
 

I must go on record as saying that I never call my dog my kid -- although I did give her a name that would have been very nice for a little girl.

Speaking of kids...
 

Appropos of something, this is just foul:

It's a Boy! Will You Marry Me?

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A woman who has a boy out of wedlock is much more likely to marry the father than if she has a girl, U.S. economists reported on Monday.
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Full text: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...rriage_boys_dc

underrated
 

What? I have never come without ejaculating. I can't imagine how this would even be possible? Has this happened to anyone?

And as far as ejaculation without coming, I don't think it ever happens. I think there is some pre-ejaculate liquid that comes out, but I've never splooged without orgasming either. Although, I have seen American Pie (or whatever movie) where the nurse sticks her finger up Stiffler's ass and he splooges, but I think he came too. Slave? Can you field this one?

TM

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What he said.

As it happens, I have a newborn at the house, and have nighttime diaper duty. I will admit that on occasion I've questioned my decisions in this regard on a random Tuesday at 2:30am (since I'm up anyway), but only in the sense that I'm really freakin' tired and want some sleep. As Bilmore has pointed out, I might say it, but I don't really mean it. Often, I just want something to complain about.

Like 8-track, I (and the SO) occasionally remember fondly our carefree childless days, but not so much so that I would've done things differently.

(Of course, I'm speaking at the moment with experience at the newborn and toddler stage. My opinions may change ten years from now when the kid borrows and wrecks my car.)

Gattigap

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Actually (and I can't find it on the net again, it was on some university website), I read a study of the "won't admit it" factor that suggest it is substantial - like the percentage of those who admit they regret having children increases five fold if reassured the poll is anonymous. And I would wager you could get very different answers to the questions "do you regret it" vs. "would you do it differently if you could do it again?" I think the study I'm thinking of was the same one done a couple of years ago that showed that satisfaction with parenthood was inversely proportional to the time spent with children (i.e.: divorced non-custodial fathers were the happiest with parenthood, non-working mothers the least satisfied).

The "70% said they'd not have children if they had it to do over again" stat is interesting but I doubt the Anne Landers column constitutes a properly controlled study.

Speaking of kids....
 

Don't hold your breath waiting for such an admission either here or anywhere else. Who, even in this sorta anonymous forum, is going to admit that they wished their kids were never born? You hit the nail on the head with the whole "wishing them dead" analogy.

Also, the few parents who do feel this -- who actually think that having Junior was a mistake, ruined their marraige, kept them from pitching for the Mets, etc. -- know that an overwhelming wave of social disapproval will bury them if they even hint at such a feeling.

Educate me, Puckheads
 

Okay, this reminds me of a question that has been bugging me since this weekend. I watched a bit of a rebroadcast of a Ducks/Stars game on ESPN Classic on Saturday. I don't know why I actually stopped surfing on this channel, since I only ever watch hockey during the Winter Olympics, and not at all regularly.

Anyway, shortly after I tuned in, the announcer said that one of the players was called for "icing". It looked like whatever the call was took place away from the action, but for the life of me, I couldn't tell what the nature of the penalty was. So -- what the hell is "icing" and what's the penalty for doing it?

Speaking of kids....
 

You're married?

r(and I didn't get my Roast Beef with Horseradish. What a crappy day!)p

Speaking of kids....
 

There would be, but just because they call yo' mama "Gateway" doesn't mean she has access to a computer.

TM

kidless
 

Must be something else. I am definitely the patient one in our little hovel.

Speaking of kids....
 

Edited to say OHMYGOD I am a spazz.

Speaking of kids....
 

It gets worse, he really is very nice, smart, and good looking too. Sucks doesn't it?


(Do I still have to buy you chicklets Gatti?)

Speaking of kids....
 

You don't know my father . . .

Edited to add:

I've heard many non-custodial fathers say this about their children and several custodial mothers. But maybe the people I know are significantly more messed up than the people you know.

Speaking of kids....
 

OTOH, I know many people who should never have had kids (or should never plan on it), but their judgment is too wacked out to realize it.

I know one or two who regret having kids, but these are the same ones who don't bother to exercise visitation and view the kid solely as a drain on em's party fund.

-TL

underrated
 

Likely, the guy was stopping at the other GF's house first.

In honor of mothers' day
 

While I understand that you are properly offended by such offensive behavior, your assumption that people who believe their lives are better with kids than without means that their lives were empty, meaningless, miserable, useless piles of crap is equally offensive.

underrated
 

I agree with TM on this... its a myth that men can come without ejaculating. Sometimes it may feel like you're coming and you haven't ejaculated yet, but that isn't really coming - and when you come and feel the release, you recognize just how different and less intense the "pre-coming" is from actually coming.

I've had the Stifler treatment from a chick and yes, you ejaculate and come.

S(only Sting or Bono one of those new age spiritualized idiots who uses one name can come without ejaculating)D

Educate me, Puckheads
 

I think "icing" is a euphemism for quacamole and, occurs after one "high-sticks" for a few minutes.

Or, it occurs when any player of a Team, equal or superior in numerical strength to the opposing Team, shoot, bat or deflect the puck from his own half of the ice beyond the goal line of the opposing Team, play shall be stopped and the puck faced-off at the end face-off spot of the offending Team, unless on the play, the puck shall have entered the net of the opposing Team, in which case the goal shall be allowed. See NHL Rule 65

Educate me, Puckheads
 

"Anyway, shortly after I tuned in, the announcer said that one of the players was called for "icing". It looked like whatever the call was took place away from the action, but for the life of me, I couldn't tell what the nature of the penalty was. So -- what the hell is "icing" and what's the penalty for doing it?"



Should any player of a team, equal or superior in numerical strength to the opposing team, shoot, bat or deflect the puck from his own half of the ice beyond the goal line of the opposing team, play shall be stopped and the puck faced-off at the end face-off spot of the offending team, unless on the play, the puck shall have entered the net of the opposing team, in which case the goal shall be allowed.

:cheers:

Educate me, Puckheads
 

Sticking your finger in the cake at a birthday party and scooping up some of the frosting is referred to as "improper consumption of icing" (usually shortened to "icing"), and the punishment -- unless you are the birthday boy or girl -- is two minutes in the penalty box, a/k/a "time out" in your room.

Seriously (can you tell I was at a kid's birthday party recently?), from NHL.com, "For the purpose of this Rule, the center red line will divide the ice into halves. Should any player of a Team, equal or superior in numerical strength to the opposing Team, shoot, bat or deflect the puck from his own half of the ice beyond the goal line of the opposing Team, play shall be stopped and the puck faced-off at the end face-off spot of the offending Team, unless on the play, the puck shall have entered the net of the opposing Team, in which case the goal shall be allowed."

In other words, if you shoot the puck from your half of the ice into the other end, and no one from your team touches it, icing is called, and a face off is held in your end of the ice.

In honor of mothers' day
 

Your offensive taking of offense at PJ's offensive remark concerning taking offense at offensiveness offends my sense of offensiv . . . oh, crap, where was I? . . .

With a rush and push
 

Its because people get too hung up on specifics and miss out on seeing the whole thing. There had to be a time when there were no people right? Where did all of these people come from..........



Strangeways here we come indeed.

In honor of mothers' day
 

Women who croon about how childless women are missing out on life are usually pathetic soccer mom types. The best answer for these idiots is "Well, you should see what you're missing not having a career or interest". That usually shuts em up.

I generally don't even address housewives in conversation - they never have shit to say, despite having all day to read or develop an interest.

S(I have no respect for full time mommies who think their little darlings are the alpha and omega - if you've never been anything but a housemom, you might as well have been born a breeding mare)D

Educate me, Puckheads
 

I always loved that rule - "it's cheating, unless it works".

With a rush and push
 

Smurfs.

underrated
 

My tantric sex sock used to be able to do it, but only if it was on Yahoo!