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patentparanyc 08-02-2010 01:58 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 430360)
Yes. You should be. He's a dick and you let it happen (even after we all told you exactly what he was doing from the moving in, to the dog, etc.)

How often does he have her and for how long? Being "shuffled around" in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing. If you can get yourself to a place where things are somewhat stable (and I recognize this may be impossible), then it's fine. I assume that you can't possibly control the douche, but you can provide as stable and as loving an environment for your daughter as you can at your house. And you can strive to turn your relationship with the Douche into one that is stable as well. That will clearly take some work (see comment from last post re "turn the other cheek"), but it's worth it.

Frustrating, yes. Harmful? Maybe. Her relationships with men may very well end up being defined by these interactions. But if she is in no physical harm, in the short term, while repugnant to you, it's probably not that bad for your daughter.

Go back to my advice about fixing your relationship with him. It's not fair, but it is clear that any efforts on turning that relationship into an adult one will fall on you. That will mean in the short term, he will get to act like a fucking dick and you'll have to suck it up. Once he understands that you're really not interested in fighting, that the girls he screws don't bother you and that your focus is on your daughter, his will shift in that direction too. It might take a very long time. But it will happen. If it doesn't, he will lose interest in torturing you (since it won't work) and will probably lose interest in wanting to be around his daughter much. Either way, you and your daughter win.

Who cares? Ignore them all. This isn't high school. Crush them in court on their motion and move on with your life.

But, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, suck it up. You seem to be the only adult in your daughter's life. Keep it that way. And yeah, you're in a shitty situation. But you're not the first to be in one and yours sure as hell ain't the most awful. So, focus on the times when you have your daughter, enjoy that, and work towards a better situation in all other areas of your and her life.

TM

Sigh. she has the child and she is reaching out to the board for advice. And I think that's a positive next steps. Outside perspective as she is too close to really decide the best way forward in a tough spot. also with selfish malicious folks like mc douche and grandparents you feel overwhelmed like it is from all sides.

I told you so is pointless

Atticus Grinch 08-02-2010 02:08 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430323)
I would not have conceived a child if I would have known she would not be in a stable loving home with me and her father 100% of the time. I would rather have all or nothing, but now it is too late.
This is a very alarming train of thought and I urge you to reevaluate it. You cannot solve your other problems as long as this trapdoor remains unlatched.

As for the other stuff, do what you are doing. Sadly it is a pretty common story. You win if your daughter only realizes what an asshole McDouche is when she's in her mid-20s. All other outcomes are negative.

Cletus Miller 08-02-2010 02:13 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 430369)
As for the other stuff, do what you are doing. Sadly it is a pretty common story. You win if your daughter only realizes what an asshole McDouche is when she's in her mid-20s. All other outcomes are negative.
Far too pessimistic. There are many outcomes that are not negative compared to your proposed "win", tho I think most of them involve daughter figuring it out for herself--which is an *extraordinarily* difficult thing to try to stay out of, especially given what we're told about McDouche and his relations.

Hank Chinaski 08-02-2010 02:20 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 430369)
This is a very alarming train of thought and I urge you to reevaluate it. You cannot solve your other problems as long as this trapdoor remains unlatched.

As for the other stuff, do what you are doing. Sadly it is a pretty common story. You win if your daughter only realizes what an asshole McDouche is when she's in her mid-20s. All other outcomes are negative.
abba, I have no experience with the "dual parent" thing. i do know this- every caring parent starts with a dream that their kid's life be perfect. at the age of your daughter it still seems possible to most. over the next 25 years though, little by little, you will see that her life won't be perfect. she'll make mistakes, or choices you see as mistakes. she'll have some bad fortune and accidents. in short some day she'll be as fucked up as most, but hopefully your influence will have made a difference such that she is a little better armed for dealing with the world- this little bit is what a realistic parent has to strive for i think, because the perfect life ain't happening. so like AG says eliminate the "I'd not have had her.." bit, and focus on dealing with what will be the first major challenge of your parenthood- and hope it'll be the most challenging problem.

the advice of ncs and ggg (normally in combination not worth shite) seems most valuable here. you can't make her the center of a war without hurting her. maybe talk with someone about what behaviors from him cross a line and be mindful of those, but unless he does clearly cross them understand you have to deal with him. and maybe let him know that hating on you only hurts the kid?

Fugee 08-02-2010 02:23 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430351)
I am angry that he deceived me into having her at all. I am heartbroken that she has to have a life of shuffling around. I am heartbroken that she will have a constant stream of "Daddy's girlfriends." I am working on a court order that he cannot have any sexual partner around her unless he has been committed to that partner for more than 3 months. I do not think my baby should be "dating" his fuckbuddies. He continually lies to me about where she is when she is with him and who she is with.

Also, he and his family have actively tried to destroy my life, from harrassing my sister at her job to sending threatening facebook messages to my fiance. That cannot possibly in be in my daughter's best interest. His parents have brought a motion (they lack standing, so good luck) that THEY should have my daughter every Wednesday and Friday, without interference from McDouche or me. I mean, it's insane what is going on.
Document the harrassment of your sister and the threatening Facebook messages and keep a file. You may need this for future custody/parenting time battles.

But as TM said, you have to be the adult in your daughter's life no matter what kind of crap McDouche and his family pull.

Most people don't intentionally have a child thinking they will not be raising that child together with its other parent -- but it happens a lot with the divorce rate as high as it is. So people learn to give their children the best life possible under the circumstances.

Come here and vent but do see a counselor to learn how to really let go of your anger even in the face of continued crap from McD. It is the best for you and your daughter.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 08-02-2010 02:25 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 430369)
This is a very alarming train of thought and I urge you to reevaluate it. You cannot solve your other problems as long as this trapdoor remains unlatched.

As for the other stuff, do what you are doing. Sadly it is a pretty common story. You win if your daughter only realizes what an asshole McDouche is when she's in her mid-20s. All other outcomes are negative.
Like you, I was shocked by the first statement, but I attributed that to what I was reading in, not what she meant to say.

The daughter will likely realize longgggg before she is in her 20s that her father is a jerk, but she will probably love him anyways, and, hopefully, he will be less of a jerk to her than he is to ABBAKiss.

But it will all be part of the advernture of growing up.

bold_n_brazen 08-02-2010 02:28 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 430369)
This is a very alarming train of thought and I urge you to reevaluate it. You cannot solve your other problems as long as this trapdoor remains unlatched.

As for the other stuff, do what you are doing. Sadly it is a pretty common story. You win if your daughter only realizes what an asshole McDouche is when she's in her mid-20s. All other outcomes are negative.
Best case scenario is that ABBA wins because McDouche wakes up and becomes the kind of dad the ABBABaby ought to have. But even if he's never going to get there, the ABBABaby should be encouraged to have a relationship with her dad.

I "share" the Brazenette with her dad. She spends every other weekend with him. We also manage to work out holidays pretty amicably. He's her dad and both of them are entitled to the relationship they have.

I will admit that he and I have an unusual relationship, in that we are pretty good friends and trust each other a lot. I'm grateful for the weekends that she is with her dad, because it gives me a chance to catch my breath from constant mommy stuff.

Everyone is right, though. At the end of the day, it's about what's best for the ABBABaby. And honestly, what's best for her is to have a relationship with her daddy. Your job, as her mother, is to facilitate that. It's not fair to make her feel disloyal to you for loving him. She is SUPPOSED to love him. He's also supposed to be worthy of that love, but to the extent that he is not, you're going to need to give him chances to improve.

Fugee 08-02-2010 02:29 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 430365)
I think you are misreading Cletus. He is advising you to not take their threat too lightly, not telling you they should have any kind of custody. You need to calm down (and I'm not saying that in my usual dickish TM way--you actually need to take some deep breaths and relax).

TM
Definitely don't take their attempt to get visitation too lightly. There is a MN statute allowing grandparents to seek visitation time. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/...C.08&year=2009 Two days a week doesn't seem "reasonable" to me for grandparent visitation but they could get some time.

Cletus Miller 08-02-2010 02:36 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 430376)
Definitely don't take their attempt to get visitation too lightly. There is a MN statute allowing grandparents to seek visitation time. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/...C.08&year=2009 Two days a week doesn't seem "reasonable" to me for grandparent visitation but they could get some time.
That was exactly what I was getting at, but didn't want to dig thru MN statutes if it wasn't there.

Atticus Grinch 08-02-2010 02:40 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 430371)
Far too pessimistic. There are many outcomes that are not negative compared to your proposed "win", tho I think most of them involve daughter figuring it out for herself--which is an *extraordinarily* difficult thing to try to stay out of, especially given what we're told about McDouche and his relations.
You may be right. The happiest adult kids of divorced parents I know are the ones who learned WHY their parents' marriage failed (or why their parents never married) AFTER they were mature enough to realize they could love dad even though he had this flaw of being a drunk/shitbag philanderer/selfish asshole. Maybe some kids get to that point before 25, but it helps for the wounded spouse to eat shit for 20 years and never let their wounds show. It absolutely sucks, but I have never seen a situation where the wronged party was "therapeutically honest" with the kids and it worked out that the kids had a healthy relationship with both parents. Maybe mid-20s is too much to ask, but all the best outcomes consisted of saying "Hush, now, don't talk about your father that way" all the way up to the point where it becomes a wan smile and a "Well, that was a long time ago . . . "

Just add it to the list of ways in which the parents' QOL is subordinate to the kid's.

futbol fan 08-02-2010 02:43 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430357)
FUCK OFF.
Ahh, I see. You just want someone to scream at.

TM's right, whether or not it's in his usual dickish way. You got a whole lot of good advice and straight out warnings on here from Day One of the McDouche Era from smart people who knew what they were talking about (not me, because I'm neither), and you did what you wanted anyway, which is of couse absolutely fine. But now you're going to start frothing at the mouth because (in your incorrect reading of the post) someone has the sheer nerve to suggest that you might not be 100% totally righteously justified and correct in every detail of your towering wrath? Please.

ThurgreedMarshall 08-02-2010 02:44 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 430375)
It's not fair to make her feel disloyal to you for loving him. She is SUPPOSED to love him. He's also supposed to be worthy of that love, but to the extent that he is not, you're going to need to give him chances to improve.
Wiser words have not been spoken on this board. Remember them.

TM

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 08-02-2010 02:44 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Fugee (Post 430376)
Two days a week doesn't seem "reasonable" to me for grandparent visitation but they could get some time.
Although if it reduces time spent with Mr. McDouche, it might be a net benefit for baby ABBADouche.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 08-02-2010 02:46 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 430381)
Wiser words have not been spoken on this board. Remember them.

TM
I miss Bilmore *sniff*.

patentparanyc 08-02-2010 03:08 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 430382)
Although if it reduces time spent with Mr. McDouche, it might be a net benefit for baby ABBADouche.

One of the hardest things ever for any parent is to put their kids needs before their own. Many can't and utterly fail. wrapped in self absorption or bitterness.

for whatever flaws I have I put my kids first. it is sad mc douche can't but it is up to you to keep it tight to make up for that. sucks, but reality.

you can do it. babes.

Pretty Little Flower 08-02-2010 03:09 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Cletus Miller (Post 430378)
That was exactly what I was getting at, but didn't want to dig thru MN statutes if it wasn't there.
Didn't she tell you to fuck off? FUCK OFF!

Pretty Little Flower 08-02-2010 03:11 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 430380)
Ahh, I see. You just want someone to scream at.

TM's right, whether or not it's in his usual dickish way. You got a whole lot of good advice and straight out warnings on here from Day One of the McDouche Era from smart people who knew what they were talking about (not me, because I'm neither), and you did what you wanted anyway, which is of couse absolutely fine. But now you're going to start frothing at the mouth because (in your incorrect reading of the post) someone has the sheer nerve to suggest that you might not be 100% totally righteously justified and correct in every detail of your towering wrath? Please.
Hey you. In the Euro-prick "football" jersey with the pint of whatever.

FU.
C.

K. OF.

F.

ABBAKiss 08-02-2010 03:13 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 430375)
Best case scenario is that ABBA wins because McDouche wakes up and becomes the kind of dad the ABBABaby ought to have. But even if he's never going to get there, the ABBABaby should be encouraged to have a relationship with her dad.

I "share" the Brazenette with her dad. She spends every other weekend with him. We also manage to work out holidays pretty amicably. He's her dad and both of them are entitled to the relationship they have.

I will admit that he and I have an unusual relationship, in that we are pretty good friends and trust each other a lot. I'm grateful for the weekends that she is with her dad, because it gives me a chance to catch my breath from constant mommy stuff.

Everyone is right, though. At the end of the day, it's about what's best for the ABBABaby. And honestly, what's best for her is to have a relationship with her daddy. Your job, as her mother, is to facilitate that. It's not fair to make her feel disloyal to you for loving him. She is SUPPOSED to love him. He's also supposed to be worthy of that love, but to the extent that he is not, you're going to need to give him chances to improve.
I HAVE tried to foster her relationship with McDouche, and at one point he had her about 50% of the time, which caused me to have to have my schedule revolve around his. Despite all my efforts, he and his family CONTINUED to harrass me. He escalated the harassment of me DESPITE me being VERY supportive of his relationship with his daughter. He continually lied to me about who she was with and where she was and continued to meddle in my life. I HAVE NEVER TRIED TO KEEP HIM FROM HIS DAUGHTER. The problem is that I have asked him to be respectful of me, and rather than do this, he harassed me. I am at my wits end. I do not have the money to keep litigating this. He has said, and the court is aware from the emails and texts, that he and his family have "umlimited funds to destroy me." Apparently, my major sin was either 1) demanding McDouche be faithful; 2) filing for child support when it became clear he would not be; 3) moving on with my fiance; or 4) some combination of these things. I seriously do not know what else I can do. I have turned the other cheek. I have "accepted" that he will be in her life. I simply cannot handle the disrespect and he and his family continuing to threaten me. I suspect that they will try to turn my child against me, and why? Because I would no longer cater to their son who was completely disrespectful to me and I kicked him out.

futbol fan 08-02-2010 03:16 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 430394)
Hey you. In the Euro-prick "football" jersey with the pint of whatever.

FU.
C.

K. OF.

F.
Oh yeah? I will punch you with THIS FIST RIGHT HERE.

ThurgreedMarshall 08-02-2010 03:16 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 430383)
I miss Bilmore *sniff*.
I don't get it.

TM

ABBAKiss 08-02-2010 03:19 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ironweed (Post 430380)
Ahh, I see. You just want someone to scream at.

TM's right, whether or not it's in his usual dickish way. You got a whole lot of good advice and straight out warnings on here from Day One of the McDouche Era from smart people who knew what they were talking about (not me, because I'm neither), and you did what you wanted anyway, which is of couse absolutely fine. But now you're going to start frothing at the mouth because (in your incorrect reading of the post) someone has the sheer nerve to suggest that you might not be 100% totally righteously justified and correct in every detail of your towering wrath? Please.
Yes, it turns out I should not have trusted him. You all were right. I was asking for advice on how to deal with the fallout. Has anyone else here had to deal with grandparents visitation when the grandparents already see the child every week? They are doing this to harrass me and destroy my life. They have told me this multiple times. They have tried to get my fiance to leave me. They are out for blood and I am very sad about it. I do not think they have my child's best interest in mind. They have McDouche's need to not feel like his ex has moved on as their main priority.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 08-02-2010 03:19 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 430397)
I don't get it.

TM
He was very wise. And by "wise" I mean "old".

Did you just call me Coltrane? 08-02-2010 03:20 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430399)
They are doing this to harrass me and destroy my life. They have told me this multiple times.
In writing?

ABBAKiss 08-02-2010 03:24 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 430401)
In writing?
Yes. I have threats to my fiance from McDouche's dad in writing, and threats to me in various levels of intesity in writing. The words "unlimited funds to destroy you" are popular, as are "my family and I hate you so much." Also, demands to let him show up when he wants to and not stick to a schedule or his next move "will not be so corgil (sic)." Also, McDouche's mom was thrown out of the courtroom for her obnoxious behavior. And yet the litigation rages on.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 08-02-2010 03:26 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430403)
Yes. I have threats to my fiance from McDouche's dad in writing, and threats to me in various levels of intesity in writing. The words "unlimited funds to destroy you" are popular, as are "my family and I hate you so much." Also, demands to let him show up when he wants to and not stick to a schedule or his next move "will not be so corgil (sic)." Also, McDouche's mom was thrown out of the courtroom for her obnoxious behavior. And yet the litigation rages on.
I assume you have attached all of these writings to pleadings or have otherwise informed the court of them?

futbol fan 08-02-2010 03:27 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430399)
Yes, it turns out I should not have trusted him. You all were right. I was asking for advice on how to deal with the fallout. Has anyone else here had to deal with grandparents visitation when the grandparents already see the child every week? They are doing this to harrass me and destroy my life. They have told me this multiple times. They have tried to get my fiance to leave me. They are out for blood and I am very sad about it. I do not think they have my child's best interest in mind. They have McDouche's need to not feel like his ex has moved on as their main priority.
I haven't been right about anything in a very long time -- Hank will tell you. But there is (again) some very good advice on here right now, including being prepared to demonstrate to a judge that Grandma and Grandpa McDouche should not be entitled to any visitation rights that cut in to your already limited time. I am thinking that emails, facebook threats and other concrete manifestations of their evilness would be particularly useful.

bold_n_brazen 08-02-2010 03:27 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430399)
Yes, it turns out I should not have trusted him. You all were right. I was asking for advice on how to deal with the fallout. Has anyone else here had to deal with grandparents visitation when the grandparents already see the child every week? They are doing this to harrass me and destroy my life. They have told me this multiple times. They have tried to get my fiance to leave me. They are out for blood and I am very sad about it. I do not think they have my child's best interest in mind. They have McDouche's need to not feel like his ex has moved on as their main priority.
You are not going to get what you are looking for on this board.

No one is going to tell you to cut and run with your kid. No one is going to tell you that it would be right to keep her from your ex, or from his parents. Well, maybe someone will, but no one who's here now.

Part of parenting in a broken home is trying to find some peace. You're going to have to broker it, since you seem to be the only one capable of rational thought. It might mean that you don't get to make all the rules (for example, why do you need to know where the kid is when she's with daddy? I don't ask my ex where he is when he has our kid.... I assume he's being a good dad, and as a general rule, that assumption proves true.). But you're going to have to rise above it. For the sake of your kid.

ABBAKiss 08-02-2010 03:28 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 430404)
I assume you have attached all of these writings to pleadings or have otherwise informed the court of them?
Yes.

ABBAKiss 08-02-2010 03:30 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 430407)
You are not going to get what you are looking for on this board.

No one is going to tell you to cut and run with your kid. No one is going to tell you that it would be right to keep her from your ex, or from his parents. Well, maybe someone will, but no one who's here now.

Part of parenting in a broken home is trying to find some peace. You're going to have to broker it, since you seem to be the only one capable of rational thought. It might mean that you don't get to make all the rules (for example, why do you need to know where the kid is when she's with daddy? I don't ask my ex where he is when he has our kid.... I assume he's being a good dad, and as a general rule, that assumption proves true.). But you're going to have to rise above it. For the sake of your kid.
Because he was having random fuckbuddies watch our child so he could do whatever he wanted during his "parenting time" as a way to not have to pay child support. He lied about this for months, but eventually fessed up. I am not raising my child with his parents or with his random fuckbuddies. If he is going to be a father, then he should be a father and be with our child during his parenting time.

ABBAKiss 08-02-2010 03:32 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 430407)
You are not going to get what you are looking for on this board.

No one is going to tell you to cut and run with your kid. No one is going to tell you that it would be right to keep her from your ex, or from his parents. Well, maybe someone will, but no one who's here now.

Part of parenting in a broken home is trying to find some peace. You're going to have to broker it, since you seem to be the only one capable of rational thought. It might mean that you don't get to make all the rules (for example, why do you need to know where the kid is when she's with daddy? I don't ask my ex where he is when he has our kid.... I assume he's being a good dad, and as a general rule, that assumption proves true.). But you're going to have to rise above it. For the sake of your kid.
And I have NEVER tried to keep my child from McDouche or his parents. I have asked that they be honest and respectful me and they refuse. I don't know what else I can do at this point. They make demands and if I don't cater to them, they go on the rampage. I am her mother. I have rights too. I am so heartbroken because I really have tried and I keep getting taken advantage of. Do they want me dead? Would that make them happy? Were my sins in not allowing McDouche to continue to cheat and lie and steal from me so bad that I should be stoned?

bold_n_brazen 08-02-2010 03:35 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430410)
Because he was having random fuckbuddies watch our child so he could do whatever he wanted during his "parenting time" as a way to not have to pay child support. He lied about this for months, but eventually fessed up. I am not raising my child with his parents or with his random fuckbuddies. If he is going to be a father, then he should be a father and be with our child during his parenting time.
I'm just saying, I don't think you get to have a say what he does with his parenting time.

Unless you are willing to give him a say in what you do with yours.

dtb 08-02-2010 03:40 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430403)
Yes. I have threats to my fiance from McDouche's dad in writing, and threats to me in various levels of intesity in writing. The words "unlimited funds to destroy you" are popular, as are "my family and I hate you so much." Also, demands to let him show up when he wants to and not stick to a schedule or his next move "will not be so corgil (sic)." Also, McDouche's mom was thrown out of the courtroom for her obnoxious behavior. And yet the litigation rages on.
Wait a cotton-pickin' minute, here. They spelled cordial like that and their motions have not been summarily rejected?? What kind of kangaroo courts do you people have up there?

LessinSF 08-02-2010 03:42 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Secret_Agent_Man (Post 430317)
2. Also, remember that you can still be the Mom you wanted to be, i.e. a great mother to your child, even if the mechanics of daily life haven't turned out like you had hoped.

S_A_M
My sister is enjoying having some time to herself. For example, she went to Alaska during the week that by ex-BIL had my nieces for summer vacation.

ABBAKiss 08-02-2010 03:49 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 430413)
I'm just saying, I don't think you get to have a say what he does with his parenting time.

Unless you are willing to give him a say in what you do with yours.
Even if he is not present for his parenting time? Why does Elin get to say Tiger cannot have his random sluts around their kids? I do not want random sluts raising my child while he goes out with his friends when my child could be home with me, her mother.

ThurgreedMarshall 08-02-2010 03:52 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430410)
Because he was having random fuckbuddies watch our child so he could do whatever he wanted during his "parenting time" as a way to not have to pay child support. He lied about this for months, but eventually fessed up. I am not raising my child with his parents or with his random fuckbuddies. If he is going to be a father, then he should be a father and be with our child during his parenting time.
The best that you can hope for is to tell the judge what is happening and hope s/he believes you and does something to limit your ex's and his parents' custody rights. Either way, you are going to have to deal. If he has people babysitting and he believes they are capable, there isn't much you can do. You can try to show the judge that the arrangement is a sham, but I don't know what else you can do about what he is doing. If the child is not in danger of physical harm, then you're more pissed off about what he is doing to you (and the fact that he's using your daughter as a pawn to do it). But I'll tell you this right now and you had better listen this time: If you decide you're "not raising [your] child with his parents or with his random fuckbuddies" and you do something rash or stupid, like keep her from him or run with the kid or whatever, you will be playing right into their hands and you will absolutely lose.

And how random are these fuckbuddies anyway? Complete strangers? Friends with benefits? New girlfriends every few months? How do you know so much about his fuckbuddies and how much they watch your kid?

TM

bold_n_brazen 08-02-2010 03:53 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430417)
Even if he is not present for his parenting time? Why does Elin get to say Tiger cannot have his random sluts around their kids? I do not want random sluts raising my child while he goes out with his friends when my child could be home with me, her mother.
Is he allowed to tell you when you can have a babysitter and who said babysitter can be?

Adder 08-02-2010 03:54 PM
Holy crap
 
Three hot chicks from belfast in derry on holiday. Trouble. In the best sense of the word.

ThurgreedMarshall 08-02-2010 03:55 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 430411)
And I have NEVER tried to keep my child from McDouche or his parents. I have asked that they be honest and respectful me and they refuse. I don't know what else I can do at this point. They make demands and if I don't cater to them, they go on the rampage. I am her mother. I have rights too. I am so heartbroken because I really have tried and I keep getting taken advantage of. Do they want me dead? Would that make them happy? Were my sins in not allowing McDouche to continue to cheat and lie and steal from me so bad that I should be stoned?
Stop it. Jesus. Fuck them. Figure the custody rights out with the court and ignore what motivates them. For Christsakes. Concentrate on your daughter when you have her. Ignore their phone calls, facebook messages, threats and other bullshit. Hand your daughter over when you're supposed to and take her back when you're supposed to. You cannot change his behavior. Inform the courts and proceed with being a good mother as best you can from there.

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 08-02-2010 03:59 PM
Re: Holy crap
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 430421)
Three hot chicks from belfast in derry on holiday. Trouble. In the best sense of the word.
And you need to either have sex or stop posting these updates, because, frankly, it's getting kind of sad.

TM

futbol fan 08-02-2010 04:02 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by dtb (Post 430415)
Wait a cotton-pickin' minute, here. They spelled cordial like that and their motions have not been summarily rejected?? What kind of kangaroo courts do you people have up there?
I think it was a typo. They meant to say that the next move will "not be so corgi," as in "completely unlike a small breed of inbred lapdog."


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