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SlaveNoMore 08-16-2005 04:47 PM

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Replaced_Texan
Question: What's the message that you Bush lovers are trying to send by using your trucks to destroy a field of American flags and white crosses with the names of soldiers who died in Iraq? (spree: wmv file of crosses)
1) He was arrested, which is enough for me.

2) I'm sure you've read this elsewhere, but quite a few parents of several of the deceased soldiers named on those crosses were appalled that their sons'/daughters's good names were being used in this media charade. Several parents even went to Crawford to remove their names.

Replaced_Texan 08-16-2005 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I am not from Texas, I don't know what your acronymns mean.
You used their motto, you should know who they are. They're suing people for inappropriately using their mark these days, you know.

Penske_Account 08-16-2005 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Was permission obtained before they put all those names on the Viet Nam Memorial?
The soldiers sign waivers with the government. Does Cindy "wacko" Sheehan have such waivers? If you answer yes, cite please?

Penske_Account 08-16-2005 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
You used their motto, you should know who they are. They're suing people for inappropriately using their mark these days, you know.
Civil disobedience. FWIW, Texas doesn't scare me. No offence.

Penske_Account 08-16-2005 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore .

2) I'm sure you've read this elsewhere, but quite a few parents of several of the deceased soldiers named on those crosses were appalled that their sons'/daughters's good names were being used in this media charade. Several parents even went to Crawford to remove their names.
2. Good point.

Shape Shifter 08-16-2005 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
The soldiers sign waivers with the government. Does Cindy "wacko" Sheehan have such waivers? If you answer yes, cite please?
Why would she need a waiver?

Replaced_Texan 08-16-2005 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Civil disobedience. FWIW, Texas doesn't scare me. No offence.
No fucking respect for anything important. (spree: awesomeness in real media form)

Penske_Account 08-16-2005 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Why would she need a waiver?
To avoid getting sued for defamation, intentional infliction of emotional distress, false light, invasion of privacy et al.

Hank Chinaski 08-16-2005 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Why would she need a waiver?
Besides the Vietnam Memorial was from before so its not a good argument. To prove Wonk's theory let's look at the evidence:

Here is Teddy Kennedy raising a sail to help brother Jack:

http://www.historyplace.com/kennedy/jfkpix/t-sail.jpg

now if you believed that photo showed how Teddy looks raising a sail you'd be wrong due to the fact that the picture was from before. Here's the current image

http://images.google.com/images?q=tb...ople/Teddy.jpg

Replaced_Texan 08-16-2005 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
To avoid getting sued for defamation, intentional infliction of emotional distress, false light, invasion of privacy et al.
They didn't die in Iraq?

Penske_Account 08-16-2005 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
They didn't die in Iraq?

That they or anyone with, or who ever had, a brain supports her wacko treasonous cause.

Even her husband is divorcing her.

SlaveNoMore 08-16-2005 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
They didn't die in Iraq?
Actually, false light is apt.

Using the names of fallen heroes - without their relatives consent - to promote her anti-Bush, anti-Israel cause, is probably actionable.

Hank Chinaski 08-16-2005 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Actually, false light is apt.

Using the names of fallen heroes - without their relatives consent - to promote her anti-Bush, anti-Israel cause, is probably actionable.
So the driver was just exercising "self-help," under the FRCP.

Replaced_Texan 08-16-2005 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
That they or anyone with, or who ever had, a brain supports her wacko treasonous cause.

Even her husband is divorcing her.
1.) It's treasonous to oppose the administration and/or the war and it's not treasonous to out CIA operatives to reporters?

2.) A nearby church put up a field of white crosses for each of the people who died on 9/11 last year. It was very moving to get a sense of how many people individual people died that day. Similarly, there's a memorial in Oklahoma City that has an empty chair for each of the people who were murdered by Timothy McVeigh. Should the families have given permission before those memorials went up?

For the record, I generally don't necessarily agree with Mrs. Sheenan's efforts as I think that she's probably been given greater deference than anyone who has lost family in this stupid, senseless war and I don't see what Israel has to do with anything. But I am appalled that someone could be so hateful as to destroy crosses bearing the names of soldiers who died in the conflict.

I thought we were a better people than that.

Gattigap 08-16-2005 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
1.) It's treasonous to oppose the administration and/or the war and it's not treasonous to out CIA operatives to reporters?

2.) A nearby church put up a field of white crosses for each of the people who died on 9/11 last year. It was very moving to get a sense of how many people individual people died that day. Similarly, there's a memorial in Oklahoma City that has an empty chair for each of the people who were murdered by Timothy McVeigh. Should the families have given permission before those memorials went up?

For the record, I generally don't necessarily agree with Mrs. Sheenan's efforts as I think that she's probably been given greater deference than anyone who has lost family in this stupid, senseless war and I don't see what Israel has to do with anything. But I am appalled that someone could be so hateful as to destroy crosses bearing the names of soldiers who died in the conflict.

I thought we were a better people than that.
Concur.


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