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Bad_Rich_Chic 10-29-2003 11:23 AM

Random Joe $$ comments
 
I have not yet heard the words "Fairytale" or "ambitious" once from the euro chicks. Instead, their leitmotif appears to be "shopping." I do not know if I prefer this emphasis.

I am interested that the guy keeps harping on the womens' manners (not saying they have them, particularly, but noting whenever they display some). Particularly, that he gave one chick a necklace entirely because she was the first one he heard say "thank you," and regretting that he had given a necklace to a woman who DIDN'T say thank you for it.

How funny were the womens' reactions to his saying grace?

Is anyone else struck by the quality of the blue of a lot of the womens' eyes? I am beginning to think of it as a "non-American" thing to have eyes in the flat, opaque, bright, unmixed sky blue that seems to show up on the swedes, Dutch and some of the czechs. (Maybe up in Bilmore-dom all the Svens and Ollies have it, but I sure haven't seen it anywhere else I've been.) Maybe it is just the way they are lighting shots, but it was sort of freaking me out. National inbreeding can be an interesting thing, I guess.

greatwhitenorthchick 10-29-2003 11:23 AM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
This reminds me that one of the great things about a digital camera is that you can take sexy photos without the creepy dude at the CVS knowing what you look like naked
One of the other great things is that when you break your digital camera because of dropping it and you have to send it away to be serviced, and the warranty doesn't cover problems resulting from dropping, the service people will change their mind and fix it once they realize there are naked pictures of you on there that they would like to retrieve.

At least I think that's what happened. I can't think of any other explanation for the "it's not covered by the warranty" call, followed by the "it's ok, we think it's covered by the warranty" call 15 minutes later.

Tyrone Slothrop 10-29-2003 11:24 AM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
As far as I know, there is no actual vagina shown in the Vagina Monologues. I feel its egregious false advertising.
That's the worst title I've heard since The Neverending Story. Someone call Lionel Hutz.

ThurgreedMarshall 10-29-2003 11:27 AM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You don't get to define the only way I win. I'll write whatever I like, and I'll change the framework of the alleged argument all I like. In fact, I'll probably contradict myself from time to time. Don't play the "I'll define who wins" game with me, Bubba. I ain't playing that one.
This is great. Combined with "everyone mostly agrees I'm mainly correct," you must be undefeated in court.

Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Bottom line is, if you're not adult enough to deal with nudity or object to nudity on religious grounds, you are a shithead.
Since we're arguing in circles, I'm just going to let this go.

Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
My only point, which you've hijacked and contorted, was that there should be no objection at all to nudity and its parochial to be uncomfortable with it. We're stuck in a bizarre society that has ass backward values and idiotic "moral" strictures, and I blame the red states and organized religion for it.
No. You just admitted you contort your argument and contradict yourself when you argue. I have neither hijacked nor contorted anything you've said. I just made you put your wife's tits where your mouth is (wait a second. that doesn't make sens...). You backed down by saying, 'I'll write whatever I like, and I'll change the framework of the alleged argument all I like. In fact, I'll probably contradict myself from time to time. Don't play the "I'll define who wins" game with me, Bubba. I ain't playing that one.'

Translation: I give up.

TM

Edited to add:

Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I have some digital shots and they're pretty damn nice
I'm confused. Is this one of your examples of your contradictions? Didn't you say you didn't have any photos of her tits?

baltassoc 10-29-2003 11:30 AM

Old saws
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
One of course beats "red headded step-children" because (i) they are step children, not your children, so you don't care (similar to the rented mule) and (ii) red hair is a long-standing folk-tale shorthand for "illegitimate" or "not your kid." Obviously, this predates proper understanding of recessive genetics.
I always understood this to be a reference to being Irish, i.e. your red-headed step-child is particularly worthy of being beaten because, after all, she's really just a dirty little mick. But perhaps the Irish part of my family is just overly sensitive.

Let's not even begin on "beyond the Pale."

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 10-29-2003 11:31 AM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
This is great. Combined with "everyone mostly agrees I'm mainly correct," you must be undefeated in court.

It's an effective way to say "i've never lost a case." i'm sure he's never been called on it by a judge.

But, Ty, really it's the most blatant case of false advertising since neverending story. and the all-you-can-eat special at the Frying Dutchman.

bold_n_brazen 10-29-2003 11:32 AM

Please help
 
Just days ago, someone posted a recommendation for a book titled "3". Of course, when I search for that book on Amazon, I get roughly 4 million books.

Since I am unable to figure out how the search funtion works, could whomever posted the recommendation, please re-post the book's author.

Ten minutes of gratitude, etc. etc.

notcasesensitive 10-29-2003 11:36 AM

Please help
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Just days ago, someone posted a recommendation for a book titled "3". Of course, when I search for that book on Amazon, I get roughly 4 million books.

Since I am unable to figure out how the search funtion works, could whomever posted the recommendation, please re-post the book's author.

Ten minutes of gratitude, etc. etc.
Here it is... http://www.lawtalkers.com/forums/sho...3129#post43129

I will now bask in the gratitude.

barely_legal 10-29-2003 11:43 AM

Random Joe $$ comments
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I have not yet heard the words "Fairytale" or "ambitious" once from the euro chicks. Instead, their leitmotif appears to be "shopping." I do not know if I prefer this emphasis.

I am interested that the guy keeps harping on the womens' manners (not saying they have them, particularly, but noting whenever they display some). Particularly, that he gave one chick a necklace entirely because she was the first one he heard say "thank you," and regretting that he had given a necklace to a woman who DIDN'T say thank you for it.

How funny were the womens' reactions to his saying grace?

Is anyone else struck by the quality of the blue of a lot of the womens' eyes? I am beginning to think of it as a "non-American" thing to have eyes in the flat, opaque, bright, unmixed sky blue that seems to show up on the swedes, Dutch and some of the czechs. (Maybe up in Bilmore-dom all the Svens and Ollies have it, but I sure haven't seen it anywhere else I've been.) Maybe it is just the way they are lighting shots, but it was sort of freaking me out. National inbreeding can be an interesting thing, I guess.
So far I've heard at least one "fairytale" and one "Prince Charming".

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I'm so sad that the girl who cussed like a sailor, drank like a sailor and went commando is gone. That guy is an idiot. but it's funny how all of the women are shocked that he said grace -- is saying grace an American convention or are these women all just not very religious?

Replaced_Texan 10-29-2003 11:46 AM

We are all doomed.
 
Earth Faces Attack From Man's Most Ancient Enemy: The Sun
Solar storm will wipe out civilization at noon.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/1....ap/index.html --

DENVER, Colorado (AP) -- Another spectacular eruption on the surface of the sun sent charged particles hurling toward Earth on Wednesday, and scientists said the cloud could significantly disrupt communications on Earth and may even hamper firefighting efforts in California.

"It's headed straight for us like a freight train," said John Kohl, a solar astrophysicist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts. "This is the real thing."

[...]

The cloud of charged particles from last week's eruption struck Earth "with only a glancing blow," Kohl said. It disrupted some airline communications.

But scientists observed one of the three biggest such explosions in 30 years shortly before 6 a.m. EST Tuesday. It produced a particle cloud 13 times larger than Earth and hurtled through the solar system at more than 1 million miles per hour.

bold_n_brazen 10-29-2003 11:46 AM

Please help
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Here it is... http://www.lawtalkers.com/forums/sho...3129#post43129

I will now bask in the gratitude.
Bask away. And many thanks.

And if we continue this discussion, we should move it to PM.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-29-2003 11:47 AM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
This is great. Combined with "everyone mostly agrees I'm mainly correct," you must be undefeated in court.

Since we're arguing in circles, I'm just going to let this go.

No. You just admitted you contort your argument and contradict yourself when you argue. I have neither hijacked nor contorted anything you've said. I just made you put your wife's tits where your mouth is (wait a second. that doesn't make sens...). You backed down by saying, 'I'll write whatever I like, and I'll change the framework of the alleged argument all I like. In fact, I'll probably contradict myself from time to time. Don't play the "I'll define who wins" game with me, Bubba. I ain't playing that one.'

Translation: I give up.

TM

Edited to add:

I'm confused. Is this one of your examples of your contradictions? Didn't you say you didn't have any photos of her tits?

Dude, I said I didn't have any photos of her with me in my office yesterday. I, like every other human with a digital camera, have digital shots of my SO nude.

My argument was that not being provincial about nudity was absurd. You changed it to "Well, then post your wife's tits." That's grandstanding. Whether or not I can post my wife's tits has nothing to do with whether or not its ridiculous for people to be so childish about nudity. Is my wife the final judge of this issue? What would you say if she agreed to post her tits? Would I then "win"? No, you'd say "So what, just cuz your wife psosts her tits doesn't mean your values should be everyone's values." I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't.

Now address my real point - Why is it not provincial and idiotic for people to be hung up on nudity? You haven't answered that question yet. Asking me to post my wife's tits is a dodge. You create a peripheral issue and then claim victory. Changing the issue is not arguing. I reserve the right to do so myself because it seems to be the favored form of argument on this board. No one addresses the meat of the issue but everyone throws shots across the bow and claims victory. Since there's no judge, there's no finality and everyone gets to think he's Clarence Darrow. When in Rome...

Say_hello_for_me 10-29-2003 11:48 AM

Old saws
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
It is usually "beaten like a rented mule," though your variant makes (less colorful) sense as well. One beats mules because they are stubborn and won't go. One particularly beats rented mules because they are rented so you don't care about them long term (same would go for riding them hard, of course, the problem being that it is hard to ride mules hard without beating them because of the aforementioned stubbornness).
Ya know, I was gonna argue with you about which is more "usual". But then I thought, even Atticus wouldn't try this case without an investigation. So I Googled instead:

the terms "beat like" and "red-headed stepchild" appeared in 87 internet documents. the terms "beat like" and "rented mule" appeared in 92.

FWIW, I agree with Balt, as it is something I heard a lot more on the Irish side of my life too.

Beating stubborn mules to ride them hard? Oh boy, not you too, please.


Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Have you people never seen a fucking mule? What is the matter with you? This all seems so obvious it makes my head ache.
The scissor and knife sharpener used to come around on a mule in the old naborhood. So once. And yeah, it all is, cept for that "usual" thing, which seems pretty close according to Google. Kinda makes me wonder if there are more mules than redheads on the internet.

Or maybe I should have tried "red haired" instead.

Sidd Finch 10-29-2003 11:49 AM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
This is great. Combined with "everyone mostly agrees I'm mainly correct," you must be undefeated in court.
My guess is that watching Sebastian in court is like watching the legal version of Calvinball.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 10-29-2003 11:51 AM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Dude, I said I didn't have any photos of her with me in my office yesterday.
since when did Clinton start posting here?

Good lord, how close to disbarment are you? "Your Honor, I didn't say my client doesn't have the documents requested by plaintiff. I said he didn't have those documents in his office on the day they were requested, so we couldn't possibly answer those requests."

Tyrone Slothrop 10-29-2003 11:53 AM

poll
 
What music are you listening to right now, or were you listening to most recently?

Me: Ry Cooder & Manuel Galban, Mambo Sinuendo

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Recommended, by the way.

ABBAKiss 10-29-2003 11:55 AM

Please help
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Just days ago, someone posted a recommendation for a book titled "3". Of course, when I search for that book on Amazon, I get roughly 4 million books.

Since I am unable to figure out how the search funtion works, could whomever posted the recommendation, please re-post the book's author.

Ten minutes of gratitude, etc. etc.
3 is by Julie Hilden. I finished it and will probably read it again. It got pretty nuts.

Bad_Rich_Chic 10-29-2003 11:55 AM

Old saws
 
Quote:

Originally posted by baltassoc
I always understood this to be a reference to being Irish, i.e. your red-headed step-child is particularly worthy of being beaten because, after all, she's really just a dirty little mick. But perhaps the Irish part of my family is just overly sensitive.
They are too sensitive on this one. Jokes about red headed children go back at least as far as ancient Rome.

Quote:

Let's not even begin on "beyond the Pale."
Now, that is usually thought to have originated as insult of the Irish. It might be older, though (i.e.: beyond the pale - meaning general borders of one's jurisdiction - not the Pale). The English had Pales in France and Scotland in the 14th and 15th centuries as well, incidentally, though the idea of being outside the bounds of basic civilization did come to be associated particularly with the Irish. It is clearly the English insulting the non-English, in any event.

Do they get upset if someone refers to Houligans?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 10-29-2003 11:56 AM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
No one addresses the meat of the issue but everyone throws shots across the bow and claims victory.
I did: why should you expect $200k for a shot of your cock while your wife (or GWNC, or E/O, or NCS, or anyone else here) should expect nothing for a shot of her tits?

greatwhitenorthchick 10-29-2003 11:58 AM

We are all doomed.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Earth Faces Attack From Man's Most Ancient Enemy: The Sun
We all should have gone along with Mr Burns while we had the chance.

purse junkie 10-29-2003 12:05 PM

poll
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
What music are you listening to right now, or were you listening to most recently?

Me: Ry Cooder & Manuel Galban, Mambo Sinuendo

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Recommended, by the way.
A homemade 60s-today soul compilation.

Bad_Rich_Chic 10-29-2003 12:08 PM

Old saws
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Ya know, I was gonna argue with you about which is more "usual". But then I thought, even Atticus wouldn't try this case without an investigation. So I Googled instead:

the terms "beat like" and "red-headed stepchild" appeared in 87 internet documents. the terms "beat like" and "rented mule" appeared in 92.
Oh, by "more usual" I meant "mules being beaten vs. ridden hard," not "the beating of mules vs. stepchildren."

I got:
30 hits on [ridden "rented mule"]
337 hits on ["rented mule" beaten]
213 hits on [beaten "redheaded stepchild"]
364 hits on [beaten "red headed stepchild"]
39 hits on [beaten "redheaded step child"]
257 hits on [beaten "red headed step child"]

Not sure how many of the step children were overlaps, though. I didn't bother to check other tenses (beat, rode); figured this was proxy enough.

edited to add: yes, I know, I am a geek.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-29-2003 12:10 PM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
My guess is that watching Sebastian in court is like watching the legal version of Calvinball.
Pardon my ignorance... what's Calvinball?

purse junkie 10-29-2003 12:12 PM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Now address my real point - Why is it not provincial and idiotic for people to be hung up on nudity? .
Jesus. It is. But since everyone is, being the first one to pull a Lady Godiva is just plain ill-advised. WTF? I'm supposed to whip out my rack in court because the judge and jury are repressed and this will free their minds?

Say_hello_for_me 10-29-2003 12:17 PM

Old saws
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic

I got:
30 hits on [ridden "rented mule"]
337 hits on ["rented mule" beaten]

[/i]
Ouch. Conceded. You'll never hear me misquote the ridden-rented-mule thing again.

Replaced_Texan 10-29-2003 12:19 PM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Pardon my ignorance... what's Calvinball?
This explains a lot.

NotFromHere 10-29-2003 12:23 PM

It's a bra! It's a nightlight! It's both
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Better when posted by nfh. She invented this link.
Damn right I did. And I invented the cut and paste and all links should be attributed to me since I own the Internet.

That said, since it's still breakfast time for some of us...
the Vodka breakfast drink...

morning vodka

It's yummy.

sebastian_dangerfield 10-29-2003 12:26 PM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
This explains a lot.
Well, what is it?

Replaced_Texan 10-29-2003 12:30 PM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Well, what is it?

Other kids games are all such a bore!
They gotta have rules and they gotta keep score!
Calvinball is better by far!
It's never the same! It's always bizarre.
You don't need a team or a referee!
You know that it's great, 'cause its named after me!

Shape Shifter 10-29-2003 12:31 PM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Why would anyone beat a mule as compared to, say, abusing it by riding it a lot (thus "ridden harder than a rented mule")?
Now that's just sick, even for this board.

evenodds 10-29-2003 12:31 PM

poll
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
What music are you listening to right now, or were you listening to most recently?

Me: Ry Cooder & Manuel Galban, Mambo Sinuendo


Recommended, by the way.
This morning, my iTunes is jumping among OutKast, D'Angelo, Brand New Heavies, DJ Krush, Nathaniel Merriweather (Dan the Automator's Lovage), Charlie Hunter, Stanton Moore, Guru, and Robert Randolph.

It's a good morning.

robustpuppy 10-29-2003 12:32 PM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan

Other kids games are all such a bore!
They gotta have rules and they gotta keep score!
Calvinball is better by far!
It's never the same! It's always bizarre.
You don't need a team or a referee!
You know that it's great, 'cause its named after me!

More info:

http://www.alloftheabove.net/cahr/ca...calvinball.htm

And this really illustrates the point:
http://www.alloftheabove.net/cahr/ca...s/whoneeds.htm

sebastian_dangerfield 10-29-2003 12:35 PM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
My guess is that watching Sebastian in court is like watching the legal version of Calvinball.
Calvin & Fucking Hobbes??? Are you fuckin serious? What is this, the total fucking tools board? That might be the gayest cartoon ever. The last time I even heard of that shit was when some lameass in college suggested I invest money in these stupid T-shirts showing Calvin & Hobbes doing beer bongs. I have never seen a more dull cutesy piece of shit cartoon. Here I am thinking you're throwing some deep Calvinist shit on me...

Jesus Christ, quoting Calvin & Hobbes is like using computer tool lingo. "He he, Sebastian doesn't understand binary... he's sooo Captain Pickard."

How many people on these boards have a comic book collection?

S(Jesus, what will we discuss next? Middle earth and Rush's greatest records?)D

ThurgreedMarshall 10-29-2003 12:37 PM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
What would you say if she agreed to post her tits? Would I then "win"?
You would win in that I wouldn't think you were as full of shit as I currently think you are.

Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Now address my real point - Why is it not provincial and idiotic for people to be hung up on nudity? You haven't answered that question yet. Asking me to post my wife's tits is a dodge. You create a peripheral issue and then claim victory.
No, SD. What I was trying to get you to think about are the reasons why you or your wife might not want pictures of her tits posted on the web. Apparently you went through the analysis (because we both know you're not sharing those shots), you just keep coming up with wacked out justifications as to why her reasons are any different from those of the other people you don't respect for having issues with public nudity. It is this inconsistency that everyone but you sees.

Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Changing the issue is not arguing. I reserve the right to do so myself because it seems to be the favored form of argument on this board.
Sometimes I think that you're just trying to create more bon mots for us all to enjoy. But you sound so serious when you do it. I guess that's what makes them so good.

TM

Sidd Finch 10-29-2003 12:38 PM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan

Other kids games are all such a bore!
They gotta have rules and they gotta keep score!
Calvinball is better by far!
It's never the same! It's always bizarre.
You don't need a team or a referee!
You know that it's great, 'cause its named after me!

I think I'm falling in love with RT all over again.

Sidd(our passion cooled after Buffy ended)Finch

Anne Elk 10-29-2003 12:39 PM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield

S(Jesus, what will we discuss next? Middle earth and Rush's greatest records?)D
Rush had a great record?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 10-29-2003 12:39 PM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
More info:

http://www.alloftheabove.net/cahr/ca...calvinball.htm

And this really illustrates the point:
http://www.alloftheabove.net/cahr/ca...s/whoneeds.htm
Damn Bill Watterson. Why couldn't he keep that stuff coming? One of the best cartoon series ever. Well, the best (just to stir the pot).

Tyrone Slothrop 10-29-2003 12:42 PM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Calvin & Fucking Hobbes??? Are you fuckin serious? What is this, the total fucking tools board? That might be the gayest cartoon ever.
I take it you mean "gayest" in a pejorative sense? Classy.

evenodds 10-29-2003 12:42 PM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
How many people on these boards have a comic book collection?
We have the Dark Knight series.

Since we are all beating dead horses, Sebby, you are a gigantic hypocrite if you are trying to say that you are somehow less geeky or toolish. We are all geeky by virtue of the fact we are lawyers.

Want to see a genuinely cool person? Leave the office.

Even(Don't fight the power. Embrace your inner geek.)Odds

NotFromHere 10-29-2003 12:42 PM

principles question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Damn Bill Watterson. Why couldn't he keep that stuff coming? One of the best cartoon series ever. Well, the best (just to stir the pot).
Please don't EVEN try to minimize the genius of the Far Side (poking the bear).


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