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History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second in Farsi.

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I can only speak for me, but the years of you being President of this Board has prepared me for dealing with the Trump administration.

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Well, Netanyahu has advocated nuking Iran. Does that qualify?

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Ira...mb-Iran-513938

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Private statements from several people in different countries made to someone who should have been trustworthy to STFU is not the same as a public pronouncement.

That is really shocking by the way. How is that not akin to treason? How can our allies trust us next time (and not just Israel). Every time this idiot says or does something I'm again reassured that the country made a wise choice in 2004.

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These days, you've got to go check.

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I never thought the phrase "Nuke Iran" (famous from those bumper stickers back in 1979) would re-emerge in the mainstream. Guess I was wrong.

Hillary, this... things come in threes.

I think we will never have another financial crisis! I am sure of it!

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Bibi may be doing time for pedestrian offenses soon: https://www.vox.com/world/2018/2/13/...rruption-trump

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Indeed. Ty set the president.

I'd trust me, I'm a pre-med.
 

My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.

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Say what? When you say things to other people, sometimes they will keep your secrets and sometimes they won't. Maybe Kerry is an idiot and is telling secrets for the wrong reasons. But maybe he isn't and believes he is serving the country's best interests, and maybe he is. Maybe leaking that Netanyahu asked us to nuke Iran makes it less likely that Israel will ask us to nuke Iran, and less likely that we will nuke Iran. Keeping allies' secrets is a virtue, but it is not an end all in itself.

Nothing in what I say above is specific to Kerry.

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That's Precedent Slothrop to you, buddy. And you can stand when I enter the room.

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Careful: "Every leader I met with in the region..., [including Egyptian president Hosni] Mubarak,"

We've been done the "okay to hate on Israel" road here before, so I get you think it good to OUT Israel, but I know you aren't okay with "every other leader..." because, by definition, those are countries you think are good.

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The idea of bombing Iran shows up in the pages of the Jerusalem Post with some regularity, often espoused by various cabinet members, just as it shows up in the right wing press like Breitbart with some regularity. And the Saudis and their various clients would of course be happy to lend support to such an idea.

Former SoS's are required to run speeches by State before they are given; Kerry is a bit of a boy scout, so it's a pretty good assumption that he did so and that this was blessed by the current administration. It was probably blessed in order to send clear messages to Iran that there are people gunning for it. Maybe the chaos is too great now, but in a normal administration allies would have gotten a heads up before such a speech. That's kind of what a lot of those deep state people spend their timing doing.

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Bibi's ability to stay out of jail so far shows just how good a job Israel has done at becoming just another Middle Eastern polity.

We're next.

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I'm sorry -- I don't follow. If you think I'm saying this only because it's Israel that he outed, I don't think that's fair.

Have you ever criticized Netanyahu for taking partisan sides in US politics? Not to defend Kerry, but if he is making Netanyahu look bad personally at the expense of US-Israel relations more generally, that's not a good thing, but he certainly didn't start it.

eta: To make this about leaking rather than about Kerry, Netanyahu and Israel, here is a good column about recent Trump leaks.

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This isn't kindergarten, so the second sentence is weird. Kerry criticized more than Netanyahu, so the first sentence doesn't compute.

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Leaking is a time-honored tradition. The amazing thing about the Trump leaks is that they are mostly people looking to undermine the administration they are a part of. I wonder whether some of this is to protect a reputation later on, so X can say, I may have been part of the administration, but I wasn't part of and object to the idiotic thing they did on Y.

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Political leaders know that what they say behind closed doors often gets reported, if not the next day in the newspaper then at some later point in memoirs, etc. I'm surprised that you have a problem with what Kerry said. He obviously believes too many people, including many foreign leaders, think conflict with Iran will solve something.

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I don't think they're trying to undermine the Administration. In some cases they are trying to get an airing for views that they don't think are being heard by normal channels, something that makes a lot of sense when the President appears to be most influenced by what he hears on Fox & Friends. In other cases they are trying to undermine specific people in the administration for their own personal advanced. Olivia Nuzzi's recent article about Hope Hicks (in New York magazine) makes it sound like this is a full-time job for Corey Lewandoski, and he's not the only one. Sometimes the leaks are about things like who is dating who, and who is squandering taxpayer dollars on what, but since government does policy and outsiders actually care about, sometimes these leaks drift into policy matters as well. But Trump doesn't care all that much about policy, and he attracts strivers who don't either, so they all care less about the harm they do there.

The President likes conflict among his subordinates, so he essentially encourages this.

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The there is this one. This may have been the unauthorized disclosure situation Hank was really looking for.

DO NOT CONGRATULATE!

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Yes, that sounds like national security staff disgusted with a President who won't listen to them.

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Also:

DO NOT TELL HIM HE IS BUFF. DO NOT ADMIRE HIS STRENGTH. DO NOT GIVE HIM SMALL COUNTRIES.

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Bolton. Wilford Brimley after a six month meth binge. Aesthetic jokes aside, possibly the most dangerous pick. This is seriously scary.

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The one "pleasant" surprise from this administration is that it hasn't openly started any new wars. Bolton makes that highly unlikely to continue.

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Trump is full of bluster, but I don't think he's inclined to start any wars. He doesn't really care what other countries do, so long as he gets respect. He wants to be liked by other national leaders. He has no ideology to export. He has other ways of riling up his base behind him. And he's not going to want to do the work of having generals explain matters to him and ask him to make hard choices.

Sure hope I'm right.

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Holy shit. This is amazing.

TM

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We are enabling a total shit show in Yemen at the moment. If Bolton wants to send troops there, we've got a full blown war that's already sent us an engraved invitation.

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This is the dumbest shit you've said in quite some time.

TM

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Larry's the man: https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/...n-philadelphia

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I think everyone is fatigued right now from all the departures. This has led to a "meh" response to Bolton's appointment.

If you thought Sessions was an ominous pick, and he was, Bolton is 10X more troubling. The only silver lining is the guy is such a staggering asshole, and so full of himself, there's no way he'll last even a year.

However, a lot of damage, lasting damage, can take place in one year.

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If Bolton wants to send troops, he's got to convince Trump. That is strangely reassuring.

eta: And it would be even harder with no chief of staff.

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Hank enjoyed the Great Recession. Almost as much as the Iraq War.

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I will not be surprised if the timing of deployment will be based on when the boost is needed for the fall elections.

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Iraq War was first term, but thanks for playin!

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It was the dog that wagged that election.

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Meanwhile:

https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/...33272022421510

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He's going to need to start getting immigrants to take the jobs in the WH Americans won't do.

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A lot of people are suggesting that Trump is changing his staff and bringing in people who more reflect what he wants to do. I don't think that's right. He's changing his staff because he's always changing his staff, because he thrives on chaos and most people don't want to work for him for long. He's hiring more dubious characters because good people don't want to work for him. He's not hiring them for policy because he doesn't care about policy.

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Start?

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...0/95649878.jpg

And Stephen Miller is from the Crab Nebula.

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g.o.