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futbol fan 09-14-2005 03:02 PM

Catering to the baseless
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I second that.

Cheney for President!!!!!!!
2. I'd love to see him give an address to the nation in a time of crisis. Just one. It would put the Republicans out to pasture for twenty years.

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SlaveNoMore 09-14-2005 03:02 PM

Where were the planes?
 
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Nut Penske
You still haven't explained Where Were the Planes?

Bush said this: "to the extent that the federal government didn't fully do it's job right, I take responsibility. I want to know what went right and what went wrong."

He hasn't indicated what he or any member of his administration did wrong. This is as meaningful as Ty's acceptance of responsibility. We know many things went wrong:

He didn't activite the military.
He didn't activate the CRAF.
He appointed an incompetant and left him in charge.
He didn't activate the national guard.
He didn't approve activations of the national guard by other states in a timely fashion.

So, let's here him take responsibility and start fixing things. Getting rid of Brown was the first meaningful act, but there are more needed.
You keep bringing up these silly points:

1) CRAF has been used once - ONCE - and that was to airlift soldiers overseas. It has never been used - or considered for that matter - for a civilian airlift

2) Blanco refused to concede control to the Feds

3) If you are so bitter about this, write your Senator and have them cancel the Posse Comitatus Act.

SlaveNoMore 09-14-2005 03:06 PM

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ironweed
Talk is cheap. Bush's "I'm responsible" is meaningless talk -- the fact is he was responsible and is responsible. The only question is whether he will ever be held responsible. Given the way everyone seems to be tripping all over themselves to suck his dick for just saying the magic words, it's not looking particularly likely.
No, no - I think you should push for Bush to resign.

This Cheney for President business sounds like a winner.

futbol fan 09-14-2005 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Well, since Nagin proclaiming to the world the "death toll could exceed 10,000" - and since the actual total is currently only around 500 - it appears to be that babyjesus is already on the job.
Now Nagin's an authority?

SlaveNoMore 09-14-2005 03:08 PM

President Dangerfield
 
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sebastian_dangerfield
Biggest problem down the road is, people like you and I will pay for the bailout when the Left comes back into office...
With your extracurricular activities, you wont live that long bro

SlaveNoMore 09-14-2005 03:10 PM

Simply Classless
 
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Gattigap
Yeah, that follows from Biden's comments.
Could anyone follow Biden's comments?

Could Biden?

Gattigap 09-14-2005 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
No, no - I think you should push for Bush to resign.

This Cheney for President business sounds like a winner.
Sounds fine to me. You say this as if Cheney's ascension to President will (a) mark a meaningful shift in policy, or (b) horrify Democrats, and/or (c) give a real boost to Cheney's chances in '08.


I doubt (a) will happen. (b) will probably happen, at least among those with weak stomachs, but who cares. (c) will happen, at least as regards the rest of the GOP field.

Again, that's fine with me. Knock 'em dead, Slave*. Gooooooooo, Cheney!








*Metaphorically speaking, of course. Cheney will take care of the rest by himself.

futbol fan 09-14-2005 03:11 PM

President Dangerfield
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
With your extracurricular activities, you wont live that long bro
Who knew mowing the lawn could be so dangerous?

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Unwise choice of words.

So, what federal statute does she violate by saying that _if_ anyone, including the President, says "X" she "might likely have to punch [that person]"?


S_A_M
18 USC 871(a):

Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the
mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter
carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document
containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the
President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in
he order of succession to the office of President of the United
States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully
otherwise makes any such threat against the President,
President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice
President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned
not more than five years, or both


I think boith is appropriate for a US Senator.

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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
a soft middle-aged woman?

S_A_M
I think the correct term is "chunky".

Gattigap 09-14-2005 03:12 PM

Simply Classless
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Could anyone follow Biden's comments?

Could Biden?
Better than, say, Sessions'. Are these hearings really for the purposes of Career-Day questions like how much time litigants before the court get to speak?

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 03:13 PM

Simply Classless
 
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Aren't you confident they'll just rot in hell for this? Why do we need to regulate?

Spanky?
I'm confident, but that does not make an excuse for our failing to protect the life of the unborn. I am not worried about the death cultists, I know that they will get their due, I am worried about being a co-conspirator for facilitating the killing.

Gattigap 09-14-2005 03:14 PM

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I think the correct term is "chunky".
Actually, I think that SAM has a good point. Please differentiate between Landrieu's comments, and Helms'. Is it simply that Helms was hoping other people would kill the President once he sets foot in North Carolina?

SlaveNoMore 09-14-2005 03:14 PM

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Secret_Agent_Man
This will go as far as Bush wants it to go (and it has). He'll get to this right after he fires Karl Rove for outing Valerie Plame. (I guess it depends on what your definition of "is" is.)
As yes, the "outing".

Still waiting on those indictments.

SlaveNoMore 09-14-2005 03:16 PM

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ironweed
Now Nagin's an authority?
The media sure considered him one, seeing as every worldwide news source ran with that number.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Well, since Nagin proclaiming to the world the "death toll could exceed 10,000" - and since the actual total is currently only around 500 - it appears to be that babyjesus is already on the job.
How come nobody is holding him accountable for such a false and misleading statement that only added to the misery and angst of the people on the ground with missing loved ones? Can you imagine if Bush had said this and been so wildly off?

Of course the MSM and the Demo party was rooting for 10,000 deaths so that the blame that they were laying on Bush would be that much worse. I can only imagine how upset the folkes at CNN and the NYTimes are that more people didn't die for the liberals cause.

Sexual Harassment Panda 09-14-2005 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
18 USC 871(a):

Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the
mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter
carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document
containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the
President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in
he order of succession to the office of President of the United
States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully
otherwise makes any such threat against the President,
President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice
President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned
not more than five years, or both


I think boith is appropriate for a US Senator.

I think the correct term is "chunky".
I think nobody but you this this is actually worth worrying about.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 03:17 PM

Catering to the baseless
 
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Originally posted by ironweed
2. I'd love to see him give an address to the nation in a time of crisis. Just one. It would put the Republicans out to pasture for twenty years.
Watch what you wish for. You guys could not beat Bush once in two tries. You are out of touch with the real America. Keep beatin that drum though and President Cheney will laugh all the way to the Oval Office.

SlaveNoMore 09-14-2005 03:18 PM

I'm just a lawnmower, you can tell by the way I walk
 
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ironweed
Who knew mowing the lawn could be so dangerous?
The grass grows pretty tall these days.

Global warming, and all that.

SlaveNoMore 09-14-2005 03:19 PM

Simply Classless
 
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Gattigap
Better than, say, Sessions'. Are these hearings really for the purposes of Career-Day questions like how much time litigants before the court get to speak?
They should give Roberts a crossword puzzle so he can at least entertain himself during the soliloquies.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
Actually, I think that SAM has a good point. Please differentiate between Landrieu's comments, and Helms'. Is it simply that Helms was hoping other people would kill the President once he sets foot in North Carolina?
I think Helms was concerned and it was a cautionary warning motivated out of such genuine, brotherly loving concern.

forgot about Helms though, that was already addressed at the time. How is Landrieu's coimment not a violation of the stat?

Hank Chinaski 09-14-2005 03:21 PM

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I think Helms was concerned and it was a cautionary warning motivated out of such genuine, brotherly loving concern.
Was Helms the Senator who was a klan grand kleagle?

Sexual Harassment Panda 09-14-2005 03:22 PM

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I think Helms was concerned and it was a cautionary warning motivated out of such genuine, brotherly loving concern.
Ah yes, Jessie Helms - nice guy. Conscience of the right wing.

Gattigap 09-14-2005 03:23 PM

Catering to the baseless
 
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Watch what you wish for. You guys could not beat Bush once in two tries. You are out of touch with the real America. Keep beatin that drum though and President Cheney will laugh all the way to the Oval Office.
He's laughing over Bush's resignation?

Man. I knew Cheney was a cold-blooded fucker, but I had no idea.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
I think nobody but you this this is actually worth worrying about.
Is that the test for the application of a law? So its okay to break the law if nobody thinks its worth worrying about? So, if I was to rape and murder a homeless jobless woman with no relatives and no friends, that's okay because no one would find it worth worrying about?

There is no societal interest in upholding the rule of law?

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Was Helms the Senator who was a klan grand kleagle?
No, that is the Conscience of the Dimocrits, Bobby Byrd.

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Gattigap 09-14-2005 03:26 PM

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Is that the test for the application of a law?
As much as alleging that a comment warning of physical harm to the president was motivated by loving concern, yes.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 09-14-2005 03:28 PM

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k
k, motherfucker.

Waiting for Fitzgerald.

futbol fan 09-14-2005 03:28 PM

I'm just a lawnmower, you can tell by the way I walk
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The grass grows pretty tall these days.

Global warming, and all that.
I was thinking heatstroke, but same thing. Will George Bush's environmental policies have to literally kill Sebby before America wakes up to what's really going on? He will not have died in vain.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Ah yes, Jessie Helms - nice guy. Conscience of the right wing.
The difference is Helms was not in the Klan. I challenge you to find a quote as egregious as this:

He would never fight "with a Negro by my side. Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

Wow. To put it into some perspective, he was Coltrane's age now when he uttered that.

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 03:32 PM

Catering to the baseless
 
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Originally posted by Gattigap
He's laughing over Bush's resignation?

Man. I knew Cheney was a cold-blooded fucker, but I had no idea.
Glibness doesn't become you. You can feign a casual indifference all you want, you know and yoiu know that I know that you know that the thought of Cheney as President makes you streak the backside of your depends far more than the reality of Bush as president ever will.

Nut Penske 09-14-2005 03:33 PM

Where were the planes?
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You keep bringing up these silly points:

1) CRAF has been used once - ONCE - and that was to airlift soldiers overseas. It has never been used - or considered for that matter - for a civilian airlift

2) Blanco refused to concede control to the Feds

3) If you are so bitter about this, write your Senator and have them cancel the Posse Comitatus Act.
CRAF is currently being used w/r/t NOLA - but it was invoked until days afterwards. It's part of the Disaster Preparedness Plan. And Blanco didn't need to cede it, though why the hell she would argue is beyond me, given the greater resources.

Bigger point is, if imbeciles keep repeating shit about the buses until we'll all sick, I'll keep repeating shit about the planes until they're all sick.

Look on the bright side - no assinine photoshops from dumb-ass sites for me - I have standards.

Sexual Harassment Panda 09-14-2005 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
The difference is Helms was not in the Klan. I challenge you to find a quote as egregious as this:

He would never fight "with a Negro by my side. Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

Wow. To put it into some perspective, he was Coltrane's age now when he uttered that.
"The Negro cannot count forever on the kind of restraint that's thus far left him free to clog the streets, disrupt traffic, and interfere with other men's rights."

Penske_Account 09-14-2005 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
As much as alleging that a comment warning of physical harm to the president was motivated by loving concern, yes.
Notwithstanding my obviously facetious post, I have no problem condemning Helms' statement. It's exactly the thing I was talking about in my earlier post about the Dimwits degradation of decorum and respect for institution in our society. And further, it may have violated the statute in question. It appears that the Secret Service investigated the Helms trheat and their was no recommendation for prosecution. There should have been a censure.

As there should be for Landrieu. Can you admit that, or is Ty the only liberal here with any integrity?

Tyrone Slothrop 09-15-2005 12:28 AM

Where were the planes?
 
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Originally posted by Nut Penske
You still haven't explained Where Were the Planes?

Bush said this: "to the extent that the federal government didn't fully do it's job right, I take responsibility. I want to know what went right and what went wrong."

He hasn't indicated what he or any member of his administration did wrong. This is as meaningful as Ty's acceptance of responsibility. We know many things went wrong:

He didn't activite the military.
He didn't activate the CRAF.
He appointed an incompetant and left him in charge.
He didn't activate the national guard.
He didn't approve activations of the national guard by other states in a timely fashion.

So, let's here him take responsibility and start fixing things.
Am I going to have to start fixing things around here? Hank and Penske bitch and moan so much when I start editing their posts. And I thought a simple admission of responsibility would just solve everything . . . .

Tyrone Slothrop 09-15-2005 01:34 AM

Nagin, Blanco embolden our enemies.
 
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Originally posted by ironweed
Wait - don't tell me - we gave them Iraq, right? Now that you mention it they do seem a little ungrateful.
POTD.


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