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Alex_de_Large 01-08-2004 03:24 PM

Disco Stu never lies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Nathan loves to eat Ramon
Was that your typo or your source's? Because it's unintentionally funny in context, NTTAWWT.

NotFromHere 01-08-2004 03:25 PM

Disco Stu never lies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I was curious about this Girl Drink Drunk expression and to my great amusement, found this at urban dictionary. It's verbatim:
Quote:

Nathan loves to eat Ramon and drink his champagne while watching TV; he is a girl drink drunk.
Who the hell is Ramon? And is he drinking champagne as well?

ThurgreedMarshall 01-08-2004 03:25 PM

Poster Boys
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
The brilliant ones in the cheap suits are the ones that should scare you the most.
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Ya'd think. I just prison raped one last week.
I'm going to go ahead and say what I'm sure has been posted already: He must not have been that brilliant, then.

TM

SlaveNoMore 01-08-2004 03:26 PM

Out of the Closet Redux
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I was curious about this Girl Drink Drunk expression and to my great amusement, found this at urban dictionary. It's verbatim:
Quote:

girl-drink-drunk
any male that gets drunk on what would be considered a girl drink (cocktail, champagne, wine)

Nathan loves to eat Ramon and drink his champagne while watching TV; he is a girl drink drunk.

The fact that he goes down on Ramon should have given it away.

Timmy O'Toole 01-08-2004 03:26 PM

Disco Stu never lies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I was curious about this Girl Drink Drunk expression and to my great amusement, found this at urban dictionary. It's verbatim:
Could they please get the number of hyphens in the phrase right, please? One. No more, no less.

And, I'll never eat Ramon noodles again without thinking NTTAWWT.

bilmore 01-08-2004 03:27 PM

Disco Stu never lies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy Nathan loves to eat Ramon and drink his champagne while watching TV; he is a girl drink drunk.
He likes to eat Ramon? Are you sure the "girl" part isn't referencing something else?

(Edited to add: shit, beat out by three others. Slipping . . .)

NotFromHere 01-08-2004 03:29 PM

Disco Stu never lies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Timmy O'Toole
And, I'll never eat Ramon noodles again without thinking NTTAWWT.
Is that in the ethnic foods aisle? Next to the salsa and menudo?

bilmore 01-08-2004 03:30 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
. . .as a rule, men can get away with showing up late more easily than women.
Of course. I come in late, and I can just say "sorry, my wife . . . " and shrug, and everyone nods understandingly. If you walk in and and try it with "my husband", they're all just going to think you're late because you got laid.

purse junkie 01-08-2004 03:30 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb

And (not to dredge up an old conversation, but...) as a rule, men can get away with showing up late more easily than women. I think people assume women were doing something frivolous, while a man must have had a good excuse. Ahhh, the double standard...
Really? In my office, everyone rolls in late like some hungover college student except me. It's a goddamned curse being an early riser. You don't get face-time credit for the 2 early morning work hours no one else observed, so you either work 2 hours longer to match the face-time of the latecomers and waste your own life, or leave on time and get screwed at work for 'not being there'.

I leave.

dtb 01-08-2004 03:32 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Note that this qualifies for the Costanza Rule for those of us with female bosses and/or wives. Just don't tell her that the "female problem" is her.
This brought to mind a conversation I was having with some colleagues the other day. We were talking about our sundry children's reactions to Lord of the Ring. My son is crazy about it and keeps pestering me to buy him a gold ring.

One guy said how his daughter asked him if his wedding ring was from Lord of the Rings, because it looked like it, which caused yet another guy to say, "Well, mine may as well be from LOTR, as it has the same effect on me. My one ring certainly rules them all." (He said it in a funnier way -- and I now realize that this isn't very funny in the retelling, but now that I've typed it all out, I'm sending it anyway. I'm sure Atticus or Shape Shifter can re-work it so it's funny again...)

notcasesensitive 01-08-2004 03:32 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
[This is an actual bit of "evidence" from a survey on this subject -- I didn't make this up.]
Unless you are lying to us.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-08-2004 03:34 PM

HOW TO LAY WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
...and get screwed at work ...
This reminds, I thought there were two points to yesterday's poll -- wasn't it not just the most inappropriate things a professor did to you, but also the most inappropriate thing a BOSS has done to you?

Anyone?

notcasesensitive 01-08-2004 03:35 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Of course. I come in late, and I can just say "sorry, my wife . . . " and shrug, and everyone nods understandingly. If you walk in and and try it with "my husband", they're all just going to think you're late because you got laid.
my guess is that their reply of "namaste" factors in that the goodness in you has been decreased in connection with your current lie.

Shape Shifter 01-08-2004 03:35 PM

Disco Stu never lies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I was curious about this Girl Drink Drunk expression and to my great amusement, found this at urban dictionary. It's verbatim:
I first heard the phrase in 1991 in episode #302 of Kids in the Hall. http://barbkith.net/episode.htm I just thought I'd work Dave's corner for a while.

SlaveNoMore 01-08-2004 03:37 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

purse junkie
Really? In my office, everyone rolls in late like some hungover college student except me. It's a goddamned curse being an early riser. You don't get face-time credit for the 2 early morning work hours no one else observed, so you either work 2 hours longer to match the face-time of the latecomers and waste your own life, or leave on time and get screwed at work for 'not being there'.

I leave.
Bullshit. The partners all get in at the crack of dawn and leave early to kiss their kids goodnight. It's you "early riser" (read: kiss-ass) associates like you who give us normal 9:40am folks a bad rep.

If you cannot sleep later, go to the gym and run errands before work.

taxwonk 01-08-2004 03:37 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
Really? In my office, everyone rolls in late like some hungover college student except me. It's a goddamned curse being an early riser. You don't get face-time credit for the 2 early morning work hours no one else observed, so you either work 2 hours longer to match the face-time of the latecomers and waste your own life, or leave on time and get screwed at work for 'not being there'.

I leave.
You clearly haven't mastered the art of the 6 am email.

purse junkie 01-08-2004 03:38 PM

Disco Stu never lies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I first heard the phrase in 1991 in episode #302 of Kids in the Hall. http://barbkith.net/episode.htm I just thought I'd work Dave's corner for a while.
Bitch, please. I first used this phrase to insult someone on this board ages ago.

And Kids in the Hall is where I first heard it, too.

dtb 01-08-2004 03:39 PM

NFH of the day
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
And for my NFH of the day - here is a mad cow. (spree: use of the f-word and the t-word)
Cute, until the end which is stupid.

Mad mad cow
Funny, yes -- but COWS ARE FEMALE -- ALWAYS!!!!!!

Why does it take a CITY PERSON to point this out?!?!

GEEZ! (My impression of Mad Lawyer.)

robustpuppy 01-08-2004 03:41 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Bullshit. The partners all get in at the crack of dawn and leave early to kiss their kids goodnight. It's you "early riser" (read: kiss-ass) associates like you who give us normal 9:40am folks a bad rep.

If you cannot sleep later, go to the gym and run errands before work.
In my world, populated only by me, the 9:40 people are the ass-kissers.

I'm a lifelong 10:15er. But tomorrow, 9:30, I swear. New year, new leaf.

purse junkie 01-08-2004 03:41 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
You clearly haven't mastered the art of the 6 am email.
After people started calling me at home with questions at 9pm, I mastered the art of the 7 am phone call instead. Home's a lot more peaceful now.

leagleaze 01-08-2004 03:43 PM

Changed signature
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pony_trekker
OK, I ususally don't get obsessed with pop culture but I have changed my signature. Legaleze let me know if it is too offensive.


What makes you think I give a fuck what your fucking sig line says? You fucking moron.

(Sorry I had to be good all morning. I really need a drink.)

NotFromHere 01-08-2004 03:44 PM

Changed signature
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
What makes you think I give a fuck what your fucking sig line says? You fucking moron.

(Sorry I had to be good all morning. I really need a drink.)
So how'd your testimony go?

purse junkie 01-08-2004 03:45 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Bullshit. The partners all get in at the crack of dawn and leave early to kiss their kids goodnight. It's you "early riser" (read: kiss-ass) associates like you who give us normal 9:40am folks a bad rep.

If you cannot sleep later, go to the gym and run errands before work.
Nothing fun is open or happening at that hour (and I count the gym as "a necessary thing to postpone death", not "fun"). Might as well work, and have time to play in the evening.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-08-2004 03:45 PM

Disco Stu never lies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Timmy O'Toole
Could they please get the number of hyphens in the phrase right, please? One. No more, no less.

And, I'll never eat Ramon noodles again without thinking NTTAWWT.
So PJ needs a hyphen? Or is there one less hyphen in boy-drink than in girl-drink?

ThurgreedMarshall 01-08-2004 03:48 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
What are your surefire tips/techniques for lying convincingly and getting away with it. Pick your favorite situation(s) and explain. Lying to spouse? Family? Boss? Client?

Corrollary: How do you (or people you've observed) lie badly? What mistakes do they make?
Remember the words of Costanza: It's not a lie, if YOU believe it.

I am a world-class liar. But it comes from practice. Practice and a fundamental mistrustfulness of other people make for a good liar. If you don't trust people and are constantly breaking down what they say in your head and trying to catch them in lies, you will be a good liar.

The key is to formulate your lie in advance. Then, question yourself like you would question someone else posing the lie to you. Once you come up with answers to all your questions, the lie is a good one.

Also, it's good to introduce props and third parties if the lie is going to be a big one. It's like a sting. You plant things in the person's mind before you tell the lie so the lie is an extension of a truth they have already witnessed with their own two eyes or ears.

Example: You want to meet up with an old girlfriend (not to cheat, but it will look bad no matter) and you know your girlie wouldn't like it. What do you do?

First, tell a good friend your plans. Then have said friend call you and make sure your girlie answers the phone. Have him chat a bit and then, if he's good, he'll say something like, "Do you guys have anything planned for Friday night?" That's it. That's all he needs to say.

You get on the phone, shoot the shit, etc. Get off and wait for her to ask you what your friend has planned for Friday. You say, "Oh. He wants to go out to such and such, but I don't think I want to go. I'm kind of tired."

Then, on Friday, a few hours in advance, you call her and say that you changed your mind and are going to meet him. Go, have your fun with your ex and when you come home, she'll ask how it was first. You'll say it was okay, even though you didn't go where he originally wanted to go and he was into some girl the whole time.

This is important because she or one of her friends may have seen you at another place and may also have seen you with her. But now you're good. Because if she goes all in at this point, there's no problem. "Why was I talking to some girl? I just told you he was into some girl. Your friend probably saw me with her when he went to the bathroom or something. What the fuck?"

Easy street. Guilt and shame shifted to her shoulders. And you're already onto asking what's in the fridge.

PM me your potential lie and I will perfect it for you.

TM

notcasesensitive 01-08-2004 03:49 PM

Changed signature
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
What makes you think I give a fuck what your fucking sig line says? You fucking moron.

(Sorry I had to be good all morning. I really need a drink.)
I had to turn signatures back on momentarily to see pony's sig line earlier and I was reminded of how much I enjoy spookyfish's rageaholic. thanks for bringing him back, fishy. and fuck off.

SlaveNoMore 01-08-2004 03:54 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

purse junkie
Nothing fun is open or happening at that hour
the Russian mob after-hours bars are still open, frequented by off-duty strippers.

then again, that may not be your scene.

Alex_de_Large 01-08-2004 03:54 PM

HOW TO LAY WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
This reminds, I thought there were two points to yesterday's poll -- wasn't it not just the most inappropriate things a professor did to you, but also the most inappropriate thing a BOSS has done to you?

Anyone?
A certain partner at my firm has a habit of viewing very hard core porn on his office computer, and leaving the images on his screen while people come in and out of his office to conduct business. I am not really offended by it, but I imagine that not everyone would feel the same way.

leagleaze 01-08-2004 03:56 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Of course. I come in late, and I can just say "sorry, my wife . . . " and shrug, and everyone nods understandingly.
I can use this too. But if I say it, it really is. I add an eye roll for effect.

I can also walk in in a huff and say women! And everyone just nods.


I'm not much of a liar. I'm too literal for the most part.


In answer to the question, how did it go. I think it went well. I was on the stand for quite a while, but for the most part I was walking them through a video tape I had made.

I have encountered the defense counsel 3 times now and he is always pretty cautious and respectful with me. He's never really attacked me. I think it would be difficult to do so really. Joking aside I'm a pretty good witness. And of course, as an attorney, I am not likely to get up on the stand and risk my license by lying over getting some morons convicted for a very minor offense.

My weakness as a witness is definitely the fact that I am very literal, as I noted above.

So, Ms. Eaze, did you observe the defendants obstruct traffic, both foot and automobile?

Well, I would say that I saw them obstruct foot traffic, but I do not recall any specific instances of obstruction of automobile traffic. This is not to say they did not disrupt it. I just did not observe it.

I'm surpised he didn't kill me.

Works both ways though. Makes it hard for defense to shake or confuse me.

It also makes it easy to believe me.

pony_trekker 01-08-2004 03:56 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Remember the words of Costanza: It's not a lie, if YOU believe it.

This is important because she or one of her friends may have seen you at another place and may also have seen you with her. But now you're good. Because if she goes all in at this point, there's no problem. "Why was I talking to some girl? I just told you he was into some girl. Your friend probably saw me with her when he went to the bathroom or something. What the fuck?"
How do I explain that she was giving me a hummer at the bar?

It is also important to remember that constructed fact pattern for a very long time.

pony_trekker 01-08-2004 03:58 PM

HOW TO LAY WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
A certain partner at my firm has a habit of viewing very hard core porn on his office computer, and leaving the images on his screen while people come in and out of his office to conduct business.
What? Where do you sit? Let's meet at the soda machine.

ThurgreedMarshall 01-08-2004 03:59 PM

Poster Boys
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I imagine you in loud bellbottoms with big, frizzy hair.
Beaten to it. Nevermind.

TM

NotFromHere 01-08-2004 04:00 PM

The Mole
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
A certain partner at my firm has a habit of viewing very hard core porn on his office computer, and leaving the images on his screen while people come in and out of his office to conduct business. I am not really offended by it, but I imagine that not everyone would feel the same way.
More disturbing is the thought of what he is doing in his office while he is looking at the porn.

Your avatar reminds me that I watched Celebrity Mole last night. Rodman is not going to make it because he is not paying attention to the clues (or much of anything for that matter) but I think they'll keep him around for ratings since I don't think many people are tuning in to see Keisha Knight Pulliam.

They'll keep hot chick on too, since has proven that she freely removes her clothing.

SlaveNoMore 01-08-2004 04:01 PM

Groundhog Day
 
Quote:

ThurgreedMarshall
Sebby?:

http://www.synergizedsolutions.com/s...s/discostu.gif

TM
I have this overwhelming feeling of Deja Vu

greatwhitenorthchick 01-08-2004 04:06 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pony_trekker
How do I explain that she was giving me a hummer at the bar?

sheesh. this is an old one.

You lost your contact lens. You think it fell into your lap. You of course, couldn't see, so she was helping you find it.

sebastian_dangerfield 01-08-2004 04:09 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
This explains why I never seem to have the time to write those memos to file that some people are foolish enough to request.

Well, this, and the female problems I am always having.
CYA letters are for chickenshits. If I'm going down for something I did wrong, you'll have a devil of a time proving it from the lack of docs, and if you can prove it, you deserve a nice fat check from my malpractice carrier.

Aloha Mr. Learned Hand 01-08-2004 04:14 PM

PSA: Time for a New Thread
 
Just noticed that we blew past 5k posts a while back...

From the looks of it ABBA has the honor of starting the new thread.

Carry on.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-08-2004 04:15 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
sheesh. this is an old one.

You lost your contact lens. You think it fell into your lap. You of course, couldn't see, so she was helping you find it.
I know I don't wear contacts, Usually, dear, but I had gotten some to try. It really is hard to keep them in, you know.

And I know I don't wear glasses, but I wanted the contacts that change your eye color, you know, so I'd have sparkling blue eyes like yours.

Um, yes, I know you don't like blue eyes in men.

SlaveNoMore 01-08-2004 04:17 PM

HOW TO LIE WELL?
 
Quote:

sebastian_dangerfield
CYA letters are for chickenshits. If I'm going down for something I did wrong, you'll have a devil of a time proving it from the lack of docs, and if you can prove it, you deserve a nice fat check from my malpractice carrier.
You miss the point. CYA letters and "memos to file" are for when someone ELSE tells you to do something wrong and you want backup to show that your partner is the actual idiot.

Anne Elk 01-08-2004 04:31 PM

Disco Stu never lies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Another tip: When using the old "caught in a circus train" excuse for being late, make sure the circus is actually in town. As the saying goes, good judgment comes from experience, which comes from bad judgment.
It's all in the details. Have you heard the story about 2 college kids who went out the night before their (insert name of class) final, hooked up with some subile spinning hippy chicks and other recreational substances etc. etc. and missed the final.

They went to the Prof with a story about getting a flat tire in East Podunkville and being stuck for hours. This was before the days of cell phones.

The Prof allows them to retake the final. When they show up for the test, he puts them in seperate classrooms. There is one question on the test. "Which tire?"


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