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PresentTense Pirate Penske 02-09-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 415718)

I don't think that disagreeing with Buchanan is a bad thing, per se.

LessinSF 02-09-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PresentTense Pirate Penske (Post 415716)
You're better than this. :(

Actually, he is definitionally correct. Idiot means 0 - 25 IQ. Imbecile is 25-50. Moron is 50-75.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 02-09-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 415724)
Actually, he is definitionally correct. Idiot means 0 - 25 IQ. Imbecile is 25-50. Moron is 50-75.

In the spirit of bipartisanship and compromise, perhaps we can agree on Moron.

Atticus Grinch 02-09-2010 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 415724)
Actually, he is definitionally correct. Idiot means 0 - 25 IQ. Imbecile is 25-50. Moron is 50-75.

AON, why have we never gotten Hank's face grafted onto KSM's boat-necked torso? That's comedy gold, right there, unmined.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 02-09-2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 415720)
First, "average" intelligence is a low bar. You probably wouldn't want someone of average intelligence to work on your car. You'd certainly not want them teaching kindergarten.
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Based on my understanding of assessments of intelligence, unfortunately many of the teachers I encounter, in my opinion, are of average or near average intelligence. This includes public and private school teachers. As far as my car, not sure, but I am under a GM warranty (until I get my ferrari) so its almost certainly a caveat emptor situation to start with.


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Second, since you pose IQ as a measure, the average SATs for the first school she attended translate into a below-average IQ score. That's right, the average student at that college in Obama's home state she drank at was of below average intelligence.

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Cite please.

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Finally, her description of the job she was running for: "They're in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom."

What do you call someone who spends months and millions of dollars running for a job without reading the job description: an "idiot".

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To the best of my k,i & B, I have a relatively hi-IQ, and yet spent years and hundreds of thousands of dollars in pursuit of a job that I had very little understanding of, until they golden handcuffed me to a former partner's bidet, and I don't feel like an idiot, just negligently ignorant.

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I don't think it gets Dems much political benefit from pointing out the obvious here, but I'd think some of you would be a little more ashamed of what the Rs have become.

Decades ago I worked for the R party and certain candidates. From 1992 to the present the only party I have been registered with is the Ds, I have voted for as many Ds as Rs, so I can't really say that I am ashamed of what the Rs have become, but I am saddened, as I think they have cheapened the political landscape beyond what I thought possible. Although Sarah Palin is a minour blip in that process.

Hank Chinaski 02-09-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 415724)
Actually, he is definitionally correct. Idiot means 0 - 25 IQ. Imbecile is 25-50. Moron is 50-75.

here's your test. notbob is here.

Hey notbob, do you think SP is stupid?

PresentTense Pirate Penske 02-09-2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 415721)
You can suck it and/or hold your breath.



TM

I will choose solely the hold breath option....I am not as talented as your mom.


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I'm not wrong. You are wrong and a doodie head.

But I wonder how long you would let that woman teach your child before they got yanked from school. I won't expect an honest answer from you, but that's only because you're completely full of shit.

TM

Honest answer: depends on the grade. Middle school and above, you are right. Grades 2-5, it depends on the totality of the circumstances. Grade 1 and below......past performance indicates I have tolerated much worse.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 02-09-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 415724)
Actually, he is definitionally correct. Idiot means 0 - 25 IQ. Imbecile is 25-50. Moron is 50-75.

That makes no sense and you know it.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 02-09-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 415721)
You can suck it and/or hold your breath.

I'm not wrong. You are wrong and a doodie head.

But I wonder how long you would let that woman teach your child before they got yanked from school. I won't expect an honest answer from you, but that's only because you're completely full of shit.

TM

I don't normally respond to the same post twice, but in this case I will make a special educational exception......I would hire Palin to replace any non-lawyer staff person in my office, and I believe there would be a greater than 50% chance that the quality of the performance of that position would go up. Otoh, my kids don't come to my office, for obvious reasons.

LessinSF 02-09-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PresentTense Pirate Penske (Post 415731)
That makes no sense and you know it.

Yet that is how the terms are defined in major dictionaries and were used by psychologists until the 1970s - http://www.neatorama.com/2006/12/11/...diot-vs-moron/ .

Sidd Finch 02-09-2010 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 415699)
In Penske world, as in Sidd world, anyone with more cash than they have must be smart - ranging from Sarah Palin to Paris Hilton to the Bushies.


Not at all true, for me at least. I used wealthy people as examples for a very specific reason: That I didn't want Penske (or Sebby) to come back with "well, Palin's richer than him so she must be smarter."

I used conservatives for a similar reason, to avoid an ur-Penske response.

Those would be two reasons why I didn't use you as an example. Your failure to grasp what I thought was a pretty obvious (i.e., high school debate-team level) tactic is, arguably, a third.

Sidd Finch 02-09-2010 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PresentTense Pirate Penske (Post 415707)
I would say that she has no less than average intelligence, and probably slightly above average, whatever that means. On both an IQ test and a test of history and politics (any period, any geographical context, other than maybe contemporary Alaska) all three of persons you cite would outscore her. I still don't think that would be indicative of less than average intelligence.

She may be "average," but the average includes, well, retards.

On a good day, she is "savvy," without much truck for book-learnin'. On a bad day, she is a blithering idiot who let her family run rampant thru Nordstrom on the campaign tab.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 02-09-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 415734)
Yet that is how the terms are defined in major dictionaries and were used by psychologists until the 1970s - http://www.neatorama.com/2006/12/11/...diot-vs-moron/ .

Her IQ is not less than 75. If you have met people who have clinically assessed IQs of less than 75 we wouldn't be having this conversation.

LessinSF 02-09-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PresentTense Pirate Penske (Post 415737)
Her IQ is not less than 75. If you have met people who have clinically assessed IQs of less than 75 we wouldn't be having this conversation.

You wanted a term between idiot and genius. You were offered imbecile. You ridiculed the offering. I merely pointed out that the offeror was definitionally correct. You scoffed. But, now, due to my extraordinary patience and efforts, you have learned something. You are welcome.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 02-09-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 415736)
She may be "average," but the average includes, well, retards.

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Really? I must be misusing the concept of average.


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