Re: Congratulations Slave and Catrin!!!
 

like see if she'll pee on him?

i don't see why he has a problem at all. she gave him all the out he needs. when he wants to do something besides sex her then go do it. if she calls he tells her he's doing something else that night. if he decides he wants to have sex, or dinner, with her then call her. what does he think she meant when she said she wants it to be casual?

there is no reason to abruptly end it, and in fact if Adder does, I bet the next time he wants to get the old pipes cleaned he'll call her and ask to get back together.

my way is more honest.

Criminal Defense Lawyer Input?
 

Any criminal defense lawyers here? I'm curious about the public statements made by counsel for Casey Anthony, recently indicted in Florida for first degree murder of her daughter. This is the case where the child was missing for a month before the child's grandmother (defendant's mother) called police to say she hadn't seen her granddaughter in a month, that the defendant had fessed up the child had been "gone" for a month and that the defendant's car smelled like a dead body. The defendant first said she'd been looking "on her own" for the child since she'd gone missing, but then pictures surfaced of her partying all over Florida during the time in question. The defendant also said the child had been kidnapped by her "nanny" but then later admitted she'd lied about that when it was discovered the child didn't have a nanny, etc. Apparently, tests done on the car show evidence of human decomposition, and cadavar dogs hit on spots in the defendant's backyard where she may have been buried at one point.

Anyhow...my question involves the possible reasoning behind defendant's counsel in his public statements. Counsel has publicly announced several times that when he and his client "get a chance to tell their story", everything will finally make sense to everyone and will completely exonnerate his client. Putting aside that nobody is preventing them from "telling their story" right now (and before the indictment came down), I was thinking counsel's statement could only mean that he'd argue the child's death was an accident and his client was simply "scared" to tell anyone what happened. But.....counsel is also making very adament public pronouncements that the child is ALIVE, so the "it was just an accident" explanation wouldn't be consistent. Any thoughts on what these announcements mean in terms of strategy?

Re: Criminal Defense Lawyer Input?
 

I'm not a criminal defense attorney, but I assume the following: the jury will never go for "it was an accident and I was scared" if there are timestamped pics of her smiling just after the death of her child. So he's decided that it will be better to play to the jury's wishful thinking that the child is alive and try to establish reasonable doubt about the fact of death without having his client take the stand. Without an actual corpse, the jury might find reasonable doubt as to an essential element of murder. "It was an accident" concedes the element of the offense that will be hardest for the prosecution to prove. I'm not saying this is a winning strategy, but maybe it gets you out of a jam on the Nancy Grace satellite interview.

Re: Criminal Defense Lawyer Input?
 

On the one hand, it makes sense to defend a murder charge by saying "we think she's still alive". The problem is that defendant screwed up that defense by failing to look for the child, partying right after the child was "lost" and admittedly sending everyone who WAS looking for her on a wild goose chase with false leads. That seems to say defendant knew the child was dead. So she'd be better off saying "Okay, she's dead but it was only an accident and I got scared. I didn't look for her b/c I knew she was dead. And I went back out partying because I mourned her loss and then went back to living my own life."

But okay....for whatever reason the defendant isn't going to do that (perhaps skeletal remains will show blunt head trauma or something non-accidental). So what is the purpose of her attorney telling the public, over and over:

"I sincerely believe when we have finally spoken, everyone -- and I mean everyone -- will sit back and say, 'Now I understand and that explains it.'"

What could be so easy and simple that we'd say "oh, okay"? Thoughts? This case is driving me crazy.

Re: Congratulations Slave and Catrin!!!
 

"It was definitely fun hanging out with you, but I've started seeing someone else."

TM

Re: Big Scam
 

I opened an account this weekend, and it's already starting to creep me out. Luckily, like gwnc, I can be a dick.

Re: Big Scam
 

I'm creeped out by the messages from people I didn't even like in college. They send them to my wife and ask how I'm doing and why I'm not on Facebook.

"Because I don't want to have to answer the questions you're asking."

Re: Big Scam
 

I find LinkedIn a bit creepy when old high school friends pop up. Uh yeah, wouldn't you like to talk about business with the guy who couldn't even figure out the tax on the bong, or uhm . . . vase, he was buying the last time you saw him.

I can't imagine which weirdos I'd run into on Facebook. Do people born before 1980 really have a strong presence on facebook? I mean other than in the predatory sense.

Re: Congratulations Slave and Catrin!!!
 

if he does this before he starts actually sleeping with someone else, he is going to call her half drunk and wanting to get back together. wttw adder.

Re: Big Scam
 

I think of the 193 "friends" I have on facebook, maybe three were born after1980.

Re: Big Scam
 

2. I love facebook. The people who've come out of the woodwork have been people I've genuinely been happy to reconnect with. I've learned some really sad things and some really great things about people. It's been worth it if for no other reason than to see all of those photos of me and my friends from college and our early 20's.

Re: Congratulations Slave and Catrin!!!
 

I don't know anyone in Michigan who would be caught doing this, do I?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081018/...tgBQf1CJQDW7oF

Re: Congratulations Slave and Catrin!!!
 

not me. i've done vacuum's, but i'd need an attahcment to reduce the girth of the tube, and those car places don't provide.

Re: Congratulations Slave and Catrin!!!
 

Thanks for the confirmation.

I was a bit worried you would focus in on the "getting caught" aspect of the story. The "limited attachments avaialble" angle was much better.

Re: Congratulations Slave and Catrin!!!
 

Yeah, I think it's important to leave open the possibility of convenience sex.

ETA so possibly just cut down a lot on the frequency of sex. Because if you disappear completely, she might be irritable next time you have unfulfilled needs.

Re: Congratulations Slave and Catrin!!!
 

I would be afraid of the suction power. Aside from the general disgustingness of the whole thing, that is.

Re: Congratulations Slave and Catrin!!!
 

The big question is if they charged him with soliciting prostitution, since he had to pay for it.

S_A_M

Re: Big Scam
 

Am I on ignore?

Chicago
 

The Hotel Blake -- decent place?

Re: Chicago
 

i had a great time there, but that was back when i was seeing coltrane's mom.


shark's blog-

http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/sha...anderson-hunt/

EDIT- as in Tark's blog. it's pretty fun if you like b-ball

Re: Chicago
 

Never heard of it.

Re: Chicago
 

Me neither. It's 500 S. Dearborn, so it's just south of the loop.

Re: Chicago
 

I'm pretty certain that back in the day that was a rather seedy residential hotel left over from when Dearborn Station had people going through it. I trust they've spruced it up, but that may explain Hank's time there.

Re: Chicago
 

It was the Hyatt Printer's Row, which was to become a Nicky O condo-hotel--until that rollout collapsed under the weight of it's own stupidity. I haven't been in it at all since it was a Hyatt--it seems nice enough when I drive by. And it's very well located for visiting clients at the MCC.

If it's cheap and you actually want to be in the south loop, it's fine. Otherwise, pm me for suggestions.

Geisha Madness
 

I bought my geisha makeup and wig yesterday and did a trial run. Transformed, I tell you. I'm thinking of making it a full-time look for me.

Madness
 

Speaking of which, this is ridiculous:

The race officials ought to hand their brains back in, since they aren't using them. Just. Do. It.

Re: Madness
 

the story doesn't open. is this NY marathon? 3 hours won?

Re: Madness
 

Nike Women's Marathon in San Francisco.

ETA: This is the reasoning for why she wasn't the winner:

Re: Madness
 

what seems more ridiculous is that they don't make clear how the race works at the outset--i.e., that there are two separate races and only the "elite" one matters/is eligible for prizes/trophies. I can see how it's not entirely fair to tell runners who get a head start that "hey, btw, there may be some runner starting 20 minutes behind you who's running faster, but we won't know until the finish line if they made up some of that time, so carry on."

Presumably Coltrane can answer this--why did marathons change to a staggered start instead of just putting elite runners at the front of the line (even with a modest gap)? Too much jostling from the hoi polloi in the first few miles?

Re: Madness
 

Some kid in the 15-19 category beat out all of the "elite" athletes in the first triathlon I did last year. Because that race is run in waves, the "elite" athletes were probably finished with the race by the time she started. Danskin didn't have a problem handing her the trophy.

Re: Madness
 

Some marathons seed you by previous times. You don't seed yourself. For example, the Chicago marathon has different start corrals, which are designated as "elite", "preferred", etc. Eventually, there is a general corral for everyone else. When you register, if you enter in a previous time that is faster than the cutoff time for the general corral, and you are placed into a designated faster corral.

Many big races do this. The Shamrock Shuffle (8k) has 40,000 people. No way I'm running it if I have to wade through a bunch of people to get up to speed. One year, I was placed in the first corral and actually started right behind a few Olympians. I got to warm up just like they did by running out from the starting line and back. And then the race started, and they disappeared. Quickly.

Re: Madness
 

Exactly. Many runners overestimate their speed, which forces the actual faster runners to zig-zag through them (sometimes for miles), which slows you down.

Regardless, if she's running a 3:07 (her qualifying time), she should have been seeded fairly high (by the race officials). However, that time likely won't get you an elite seeding at a major marathon. It's probably (and I'm guessing here) a club quality time, but not an elite time. Of course, I don't know how much the hills of SF affect times - Boston's hills make it a much slower course than flat Chicago.

Re: Madness
 

I was contemplating trying to run my best time next year (2009) in the Chicago marathon, which would enable me to get a start right behind the elites in the second corral (that's where I usually am) in 2010. The ultimate goal would then be to try to lead the Chicago marathon for the first two or three miles in 2010 (and then drop out from exhaustion). I figured, with speed-specific training, I could do it...but that's because I thought that the elites ran at about 5:10/mile. In reality, they run at about 4:50. There's no way I could run more than one mile at 4:50. Evans Cheruiyot ran the first 5k of the Chicago marathon in 15:00. Not a chance. Ever.

Re: Madness
 

I get this. But if the point of the seeding is to spare the elite runners from having to run with all the other runners in the race, then they can't really complain about the unfairness of being "caught" by someone in that pack who posts a better time.

Re: Madness
 

Well, what if the declared winner was told by race officials or her coach that her nearest competitor was way behind her, so she took her foot off the gas and cruised in? Isn't that basically the race's reasoning? If the elites were really that slow (relatively speaking), then it's the race's fault for not seeding Arien as an elite...unless Arien never provided a previous race time.

ETA: If I were as fast as Arien, I would have looked up previous SF race times to see if I could contend. This is an experienced runner we're talking about. If there is a good chance I'll be in the top ten of a race, I'm calling the race organizers to get an "elite" start.

Re: Madness
 

I guess. On the other hand, if you do not know you are being caught, you cannot react. Although not as tactical as a bike race, I assume the point of the marathon (for the elites) is to beat everyone else, not necessarily to go as fast as you can. I think the way it worked out, it would be unfair to somebody no matter what they did.

Re: Madness
 

but three hours won. how was that elite? isn't women's elite more like 2:40?

Re: Madness
 

Something like that. Again, maybe the hills make it a much slower race.

ETA: It's either a slow course or there aren't any real elites who run it. The men's winning time for the past few years has been around 2:25-2:30, and the women's around 2:55.

Re: Madness
 

the one time i could have ever won a race was in the "clydesdale" division of an "out and back" on Hain's point. there was a division for over 180 pounds. The beauty of the out and back, is that everyone ahead of me had to run past me on the way back. I was second for people who have a man's body. But they gave 1,2 and 3rd to others. Fucks ruiz'ed me, I swear to this day.

Re: Madness
 

Seriously? I can see why someone who listened to race officials in those circumstances would be more than a little pissed, but that would not make her time faster.

Maybe I would have, too, but her failure to do so did not make her time any slower.
Indeed. The unfairness starts with the decision to break contestants into the elite runners and everyone else, to spare the elite from having to run in a crowd. Maybe the elite "winner" didn't get a chance to react to the faster runner's time, but she didn't have to cope with the crowd at the start, either.