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02-13-2019 01:08 PM |
Re: Northam, Warren, Fairfax...
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall
(Post 520857)
I think you are intentionally shutting your eyes to the reality of what happened in order to avoid the conversation and to suit your opinion.
The story and the photo came out. It looked bad and got a lot of attention. Franken was on his heels. More accusers came out--some of them completely anonymous. He denied some of the claims made and asked for an investigation/hearing. A ground swell emerged which Gillibrand was the first, loudest, and most frequent critic leading the charge to have him step down. I'm sure he was asked to do it in private as well, but who knows. He left.
If you're going to lean on the fact that (i) he's a politician and wasn't being convicted so he doesn't deserve a hearing/investigation and/or (ii) he decided not to fight the entire Democratic Party during the height of the #MeToo Movement under the tremendous pressure exerted on him by his fellow party members, that's fine. You just come off as a disingenuous jackass who is trying to justify what happened because you agree with the outcome.
TM
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Here's the thing. I think we ought to hold elected officials to a high standard, and that multiple credible charges of truly bad behavior (whether or not criminal, and especially if that bad behavior relates to racism, sexism, or sexual assault) can (and generally should) sufficiently impair someone's qualification for the office, credibility, and ability to their job that it makes sense for them to step aside.
Should we be giving Northam or Fairfax some process or hearing before they step down? I'd say giving a little time to verify the credibility of the accusers and the underlying facts is often a good idea, because sometimes the crazy stuff that comes out first is misleading. And some degree of forgiveness should be afforded for old incidents where there is true contrition.
Franken's case is tough because I do think he showed contrition; but for that, I'm good with him being gone, and I don't know what there was that might have kept coming out if he remained in the spotlight - he made the choice to go. The incidents involved Franken were pretty gross and fully credible. I' just don't feel that contrition in Northam's case, and I just haven't paid enough attention yet to Fairfax.
One way or another, Virginia deserves not to have leaders with a cloud over their head and a proven record of being jackasses, so they need to figure it out.
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