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Tyrone Slothrop 06-11-2020 04:03 PM

Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
More liberal intolerance of conservative views, amirite?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EaPKGU_X...png&name=small

Replaced_Texan 06-11-2020 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 528908)
I think #metoo succeeded because it had a laser-like focus: Exposing bad actors. That was easy in the age of social media.

BLM can do the same thing re: police. It could start singling out the bad depts and bad cops. That's probably good idea, actually.

But right now the message seems incoherent. "Defund the police" is also counterproductive. Too extreme.

The movement you see is real and at some point will put forth concise goals that go to the root of the problem: Laws designed to control the poor rather than protect them.

But from what I see at the moment, the immediate future looks a lot like Occupy. Everyone's recognizing a problem and agreeing we need to do something, but there's no consensus about what. And that opportunistic effort by Pelosi and Schumer to capitalize on the moment with legislation that bars chokeholds is just embarrassing. (Wearing that African garb also looked like pretty awful pandering, and to whom? These people being killed aren't African. They are Americans. They dress just like you and me. They are not an "other" except to racists.)

A much better legislative effort would have been to: (1) ban the sale of defense department military hardware to police; (2) repeal the laws on civil and criminal forfeiture which are used by police to steal from innocent minorities (and non-minorities) who can't afford to fight the forfeiture; and, (3) refuse federal funding to states deemed to be applying usurious and predatory fines and fees to criminals.

On #3, recall that Ferguson was using minorities, often forced to plead guilty to petty crimes as they couldn't afford cost of defense, as ATMs - charging them rates of interest and penalties for non-payment of nominal amounts that payday lenders wouldn't attempt. That's still going on all over the place, including very large cities in very blue states. The court system and police are effectively turning hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people into debt serfs for minor crimes, often long after they've served their sentences. It's nuts. Once you've done your time, you should be done. Period.

It's not just #metoo. It was #metoo and the Women's March, which was focused on a myriad issues, including and especially getting more women in office, but also as a general cathartic well deserved fuck you to Donald Trump. #metoo started about 8 months later, to a population that was already radicalized. Same with what's going on right now.

Rage is useful. Rage is motivating. Rage leads to organization and the laser focus. Give it time. It's been two and a half weeks.

sebastian_dangerfield 06-12-2020 01:06 PM

8:46
 
Dave Chappelle is reaching the GOAT air of Carlin, Pryor, and Murphy. But unlike Carlin and Pryor, who were philosophers peppering serious messages with jokes every two minutes, Chappelle can do straight up philosophy without jokes and still be hugely entertaining.

8:46 isn't exactly funny, but it's compelling as all fuck. Most notably in his dismissing the stupid argument that Floyd's criminal past is relevant.

I've heard from several people I know, "Well, this guy is no hero."

Um, no shit. He's a victim. Do you own a fucking dictionary?

Anyway, well worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tR6mKcBbT4

Tyrone Slothrop 06-14-2020 12:31 PM

Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
brainworms

Hank Chinaski 06-14-2020 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 528916)

Watch a track meet, look at the sprinters walking, they hobble along just like that. The fastest, most nimble people in the World, they hobble just like that.

Tyrone Slothrop 06-15-2020 04:48 PM

Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 528917)
Watch a track meet, look at the sprinters walking, they hobble along just like that. The fastest, most nimble people in the World, they hobble just like that.

Do the sprinters need two hands to drink a glass of water?

Tyrone Slothrop 06-15-2020 05:00 PM

Re: Objectively intelligent.
 
I'm old enough to remember way back when Sebby was talking up the benefits of Trump's wonder drug for Covid-19.

Quote:

The Food and Drug Administration withdrew its emergency use authorization for hydroxychloroquine and a related drug that President Trump promoted for treatment of covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.
The FDA said it had concluded that it “is no longer reasonable to believe” that hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine are effective in treating the disease. “Nor is it reasonable to believe,” the agency said, "that the known and potential benefits of these products outweigh their known and potential risks.”
WaPo

Funny how they have to write the press release as if Trump is going to read it -- "no longer reasonable," as if it ever was.

Adder 06-16-2020 03:58 PM

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Anyone doubt that SCOTUS will gut their Title VII ruling with one affirming “religious liberty?”

Hank Chinaski 06-16-2020 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 528920)
Anyone doubt that SCOTUS will gut their Title VII ruling with one affirming “religious liberty?”

Huh? So a religious company can fire based upon orientation just secular cannot? Are there cases like that there now?

My firm is on pins and needles that we may have a case there next term. A boring one, but still....

Hank Chinaski 06-16-2020 04:58 PM

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https://www.oyez.org/justices/byron_r_white

Not to sound like Les over here, but you do not know a Supreme Court Justice's heart until they are there. Whizzer White was appointed by Kennedy. He didn't turn out hard core conservative, but did write to support anti-homosexual laws and dissented on Roe and Miranda. That was not what JFK envisioned, I'm sure. Replaced by RBG.

Although more recent "liberal" appointments seem 100% toeing the party line. You know how the news is always "OMG gorsuch drifted" or whatever? When was the last (ever?) time the lib 4 didn't vote lock step?

LessinSF 06-16-2020 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 528921)
Huh? So a religious company can fire based upon orientation just secular cannot? Are there cases like that there now?

My firm is on pins and needles that we may have a case there next term. A boring one, but still....

Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc., 573 U.S. 682 (2014)

Hank Chinaski 06-16-2020 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 528923)
Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc., 573 U.S. 682 (2014)

Memo? With summary paragraph please.

Tyrone Slothrop 06-16-2020 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 528924)
Memo? With summary paragraph please.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burwel...by_Stores,_Inc.

LessinSF 06-17-2020 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 528924)
Memo? With summary paragraph please.

$350 per hour. Venmo me a retainer.

LessinSF 06-17-2020 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 528925)

Fucker. I was going to bill him a .5 to rewrite it in legalese.


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