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SEC_Chick 05-13-2003 01:48 PM

Playboy: the video game
 
http://money.cnn.com/2003/05/12/comm...yboy/index.htm

I was going to post this to one of the tech-geek boards, but it seemed more at home here, as it will, of course, contain nudity.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-13-2003 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gov Anon



You probably don't want to place yourself in danger by going to his house, etc. I don't know how active the Texas AG's office is but if you can't get in touch with the guy by phone, mail, etc., you could call them and at least register a complaint.

Maybe you should call the Texas Rangers and report that he's harboring a state legislator in his house. That should get them bashing down the doors real quick.

purse junkie 05-13-2003 01:49 PM

There is no solution.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Being forced to eat near a fatty repulses me and so I should not be subjected to it. ...I can quit smoking today but you will still be a fatty.
All I know is, if this stupid Oreo ban succeeds because some people suck them down like industrial vacuum cleaners and then are surprised that there are negative health effects, and I am thereby deprived of my rare craving for a single-serving mini-pack from my local junk food emporium, I will be seriously, seriously pissed off. :box:

Force Hostess Sno-Balls off the market, and there'll be absolute hell to pay.

ThrashersFan 05-13-2003 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gov Anon
quote:
I unfortunately prosecute in this subject area. If this guy really wanted to defraud you, he has probably defrauded other people and done it for quite some time. In these instance, letters and subpoenas from the AG indicating things like, "you are about to be arrested, have your property seized, etc.," have very little effect so I doubt that a J.D. letter will intimidate him. I had one where the guy went to jail, was released on Tue - restarted his fraudulent operation on Wed, went to jail again, got out started again, etc.

You probably don't want to place yourself in danger by going to his house, etc. I don't know how active the Texas AG's office is but if you can't get in touch with the guy by phone, mail, etc., you could call them and at least register a complaint. If they have other complaints and pursue these types of things, you could get a fraction of restitution money - in the unlikely event that this guy has assets.
In other words, suck it up bondo-boy, consider the money lost and a lesson learned -- next time deal with a professional. There are certain things I will not buy from people whose "place of business" I am afraid to visit - medical/dental care, auto repairs (can you say "hot parts" or "you've come to pick up your car, what car, I don't know you") and children or pets.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-13-2003 01:51 PM

Playboy: the video game
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SEC_Chick
http://money.cnn.com/2003/05/12/comm...yboy/index.htm

I was going to post this to one of the tech-geek boards, but it seemed more at home here, as it will, of course, contain nudity.
Yeah, this about sums it up: ""Nudity can be done very classy, "

greatwhitenorthchick 05-13-2003 01:52 PM

Attention Hockey People
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Hmm. I always thought the ugly americans were the dirty brawlers.
You are so right. Bob Probert, Dave Semenko, Tony Twist, Clark Gillies, Jody Shelley - bunch of pussies.

Lexus Talionis 05-13-2003 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
In other words, suck it up bondo-boy, consider the money lost and a lesson learned -- next time deal with a professional. There are certain things I will not buy from people whose "place of business" I am afraid to visit - medical/dental care, auto repairs (can you say "hot parts" or "you've come to pick up your car, what car, I don't know you") and children or pets.
You buy children? :shock:

evenodds 05-13-2003 01:55 PM

Fatness and Health Problems
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I see doctors only when I have to. I am deathly scared that if I went to one now, he'd tell me to stop doing something I like, and I'd rather die than stop enjoying the things I like.

I am married to a medical family. I've explained this position to them several times. You'd think they'd disagree with me, but they don't.
That's nothing to be proud of: in my experience, medical families have the worst health care because they always self-medicate and self-diagnose and feel the same about doctors as you do. (Although it is very convenient when you forget a prescription while traveling.)

Anyway, I was amazed that our doctor did not advise the OddMan to alter his diet, stop smoking, or stop drinking. Well, she does want him to stop smoking, but she didn't give him a hard time about it.

So maybe it wouldn't be as bad as you think.

ThrashersFan 05-13-2003 01:56 PM

Attention Hockey People
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
You are so right. Bob Probert, Dave Semenko, Tony Twist, Clark Gillies, Jody Shelley - bunch of pussies.

GWNC, you gotta understand that most people do not know that most NHL teams have only 1 or 2 "Americans" on the team. I think it may be that what was meant was "National Hockey League-style hockey is more aggressive than that which is played elsewhere on the planet." Although I do not wish to take liberties with the intention of another.

Speaking of great aggressive Canadian sports -- I HEART CURLING! I was pissed that they showed so little of it so late in the day during the Olympics. Growing up I was able to watch early on weekend mornings and I miss it.

paigowprincess 05-13-2003 01:56 PM

There is no solution.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
The thought of it makes me shudder because it would remove from my list one of the main focus groups of my teasing and torment. This is just one more goup that is a product of our "blame someone else" "it isn't my fault" society. We spend healthcare dollars that could be finding a cure for a real disease trying to find an excuse for these fatties. There is only one explanation, they are lazy people who cannot control their own fucking eating!

Hey, we all do bad shit but it is the unwillingness to accept responsbility that pisses me off. If my liver falls out or I get lung cancer I have nobody to blame but myself -- I would be embarrassed to say that I wasn't smart enough to know that drink and smoke could kill me. These people sit around filling their faces with greasy, salty and sugary foods until the only way to describe them is "round" and then they wanna blame the people who made the food. Like you didn't know eating 4 super value meals at lunch would make you fat? Like you didn't see the pounds piling on and connect the two?

And then they try all of these late-night advertised fucking weight-loss tricks and then wanna sue the manufacturers because they don't work. Of course they don't work you fat piece of shit because anything that promises weight-loss while you sit on the couch and eat a large pizza is fucking lying. Even the good ones won't work unless you use them and QUIT FUCKING EATING SO DAMN MUCH!!

Didn't mean to go off but you know I just get pissed that smokers have been forced out into the streets and now out of the bars and restaurants and yet I still have to look at fatties everywhere I go (can't they have a special section at restaurants so I do not have to see that shit?) and nobody complains about all of the health costs the states will be enduring because these people will not get off of their fucking fat asses and take care of themselves.
Are you some sort of paigow tribute sock? You are like a really rabid version of me and say things even I wouldnt.

Atticus Grinch 05-13-2003 01:57 PM

"Coupling" Comes to NBC
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Not to mention that those Brits only have yards the size of like my little side-yard patio garden. You would need at least a week on the average American yard.
Your use of "yard" is telling. Americans don't garden. They landscape. There's a huge difference. Americans say "low-maintenance" when in reality they mean "zero-maintenance," but there is no such thing as a zero-maintenance landscape. I would watch each American Ground Force heartsick that the whole thing will go to pot (unless literally; that would be interesting) within two weeks.

Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
They might be able to get away with a remake of "Keeping Up Appearances" but "Are you Being Served?" would be tough.
Let's get something straight here. I wish to dispel the notion that "Are You Being Served?" was in any way funny. It was not. How many times will an audience laugh at a blue-haired dowager talking about her "pussy"? Unspeakable. Horrid. Maybe it produced shock laughs in 1972, but there's no excuse for it in 2003. Only the blindest form of Anglophilia would delude one into thinking this show was funny.

ThrashersFan 05-13-2003 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lexus Talionis
You buy children? :shock:
well, you know, some people adopt from some "questionable" people/places. I would never do that.

TexLex 05-13-2003 01:57 PM

There is no solution.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan I can quit smoking today but you will still be a fatty.
That's cute, Mr. Churchill, but I don't believe you - about the stopping smoking thing, that is.

I am fine with a tax on junk food - I think it's a great idea, in fact. At the grocery store it never fails - the most junky processed food is found in the baskets of those who look like they subsist wholly on junky processed food and have never heard of fresh fruit. But banning overweigh people from public? You're either being sarcastic and I'm not reading it well today or you're just a meanie.

-T(looking to put on 25-35lbs by Thanksgiving)L ;)

edited to add: or you're Paigow pretending not to be Paigow fucking with me again.

Replaced_Texan 05-13-2003 01:57 PM

Fatness and Health Problems
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I am married to a medical family. I've explained this position to them several times. You'd think they'd disagree with me, but they don't.
I have maybe 15 family members that are physicians, and NONE of us go to the doctor on a regular basis, even those of us who should. And especially those of us who should know better. We were lucky as kids if we got decent care when we fell and hurt ourselves. Each of us has a scar that probably should have required stitches or further care, but we were lucky to get bandages (and in one rather famous incident, rubbing alcohol and duct tape). Even my mom's broken arm a few years ago got a "are you sure you need to go to the ER?" from my physician father. Unless we required a respirator, we were never deemed sick enough to garner much sympathy from those who were qualified to make decisions about our heatlh care.

I think it's because the health care professionals in our family take care of the sickest people, in ICUS and the like, so our problems are generally pretty minor in comparison. Also, until a few years ago, generally everyone in a physician family got the benefit of professional courtesy, so physicians didn't want to take too much advantage of their colleagues by sending their kids over for every scrape and bruise, so physicians didn't send their family members out to others unless it was absolutely necessary. These days, because of Stark and anti-kickback legislation, it's a lot harder to take care of someone without sending a bill.

Of course, when it is absolutely necessary, we do get the very best care possible, and we can also benefit from parental guilt, when it's clear that we should have been seen earlier.

Gov Anon 05-13-2003 01:58 PM

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Quote:
In other words, suck it up bondo-boy, consider the money lost and a lesson learned -- next time deal with a professional. There are certain things I will not buy from people whose "place of business" I am afraid to visit - medical/dental care, auto repairs (can you say "hot parts" or "you've come to pick up your car, what car, I don't know you") and children or pets.
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Also, avoid those people who come to your door and say things like, "I was just in the neighborhood and noticed that you need a new roof. For a mere x amount, I can put one on right now..." Really $200 is not a whole lot compared to what most people lose in these situations.

evenodds 05-13-2003 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Maybe you should call the Texas Rangers and report that he's harboring a state legislator in his house. That should get them bashing down the doors real quick.
Thanks for bringing our shame here!

sebastian_dangerfield 05-13-2003 01:58 PM

There is no solution.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
The thought of it makes me shudder because it would remove from my list one of the main focus groups of my teasing and torment. This is just one more goup that is a product of our "blame someone else" "it isn't my fault" society. We spend healthcare dollars that could be finding a cure for a real disease trying to find an excuse for these fatties. There is only one explanation, they are lazy people who cannot control their own fucking eating!

Hey, we all do bad shit but it is the unwillingness to accept responsbility that pisses me off. If my liver falls out or I get lung cancer I have nobody to blame but myself -- I would be embarrassed to say that I wasn't smart enough to know that drink and smoke could kill me. These people sit around filling their faces with greasy, salty and sugary foods until the only way to describe them is "round" and then they wanna blame the people who made the food. Like you didn't know eating 4 super value meals at lunch would make you fat? Like you didn't see the pounds piling on and connect the two?

And then they try all of these late-night advertised fucking weight-loss tricks and then wanna sue the manufacturers because they don't work. Of course they don't work you fat piece of shit because anything that promises weight-loss while you sit on the couch and eat a large pizza is fucking lying. Even the good ones won't work unless you use them and QUIT FUCKING EATING SO DAMN MUCH!!

Didn't mean to go off but you know I just get pissed that smokers have been forced out into the streets and now out of the bars and restaurants and yet I still have to look at fatties everywhere I go (can't they have a special section at restaurants so I do not have to see that shit?) and nobody complains about all of the health costs the states will be enduring because these people will not get off of their fucking fat asses and take care of themselves.
Some asshole in California just tried to bring legislation that would prevent children from eating Oreos. It would be utterly Karmic for him to choke to death trying to force down an underblended kale smoothie... we can only hope.

Bloomberg should be caned for high crimes of extreme sissiness/correctness for his anti-smoking campaign. His clueless limousine do-goodery will fuck us all soon enough. Next it'll be bars without alcohol. Hell, they've already eliminated drinking at lunch - its grounds for termination in most places.

I'm repulsed and disgusted by the fat as much as the next self-important vain guy, but lardass and Ms. Lardass have their place, at the bar, next to the smoker and the boozehound. People should be allowed to do whatever the hell they like to themselves. I still can't figure out whay we can't use drugs we buy which get us really high for recreation, but we can get drugs legally which help the weakest and self-absorbed of us deal with reality. Someobody should take these prozac junkies and expose them to marijuana. Give that snivelling bitch in the psychiatrist's chair rambling about her "inability to connect" with others a mirror full of blow and a bottle of Dom. She won't need drugs for a few days after that. Oh, and that kid of yours who keeps telling you he knows it all - give him five hits of strong acid. He'll come back realizing just how little he knows about life, and if he doesn't, feed him a mushroom omellette.

S(a lot of people need a fat slap across the face)D

paigowprincess 05-13-2003 02:01 PM

Playboy: the video game
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Yeah, this about sums it up: ""Nudity can be done very classy, "
Note to Lawyer Pissness, I did not bring this quote.

ThrashersFan 05-13-2003 02:01 PM

There is no solution.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Are you some sort of paigow tribute sock? You are like a really rabid version of me and say things even I wouldnt.

I have to say that I am not but I will take that as compliment if you will permit me to. I believe that you are selling yourself short if you think that I would say anything that you would not -- your rabidity (new word?) is something peons like myself can only admire and aspire to.


"Well, I am no slouch myself you know."
"Don't sell yourself short, Judge, I'd say that you're quite a slouch."

greatwhitenorthchick 05-13-2003 02:03 PM

Attention Hockey People
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Speaking of great aggressive Canadian sports -- I HEART CURLING!
You have just earned yourself a special place in my heart. What a great game curling is. Rivals Quidditch for the most fun you can have with a broom and a bunch of rocks.

sebastian_dangerfield 05-13-2003 02:05 PM

Fatness and Health Problems
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
That's nothing to be proud of: in my experience, medical families have the worst health care because they always self-medicate and self-diagnose and feel the same about doctors as you do. (Although it is very convenient when you forget a prescription while traveling.)

Anyway, I was amazed that our doctor did not advise the OddMan to alter his diet, stop smoking, or stop drinking. Well, she does want him to stop smoking, but she didn't give him a hard time about it.

So maybe it wouldn't be as bad as you think.
I always ask my wife's dad about medical care. I had a friend recently who was diagnosed with a condition whereby his liver produces too much iron. He told his young doctor how much he drinks and his doctor freaked and told him he was an alcoholic and would die if he kept drinking any booze.

I asked my father in law about this since he trests patients with blood conditions. He said "Stupid young doctor - she's full of shit". His advice - drink all you like within reason. The damage done by iron overproduction and the damage done by booze are two different animals which do not work in concert.

Caveat: Her family all say stop smoking immediately to every smoker they see.

Replaced_Texan 05-13-2003 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Thanks for bringing our shame here!
I think it's hysterical. I've been following this for three days now, and I'm glad that someone is finally growing some backbone in the legislature. Plus, it's been awhile since we've had legislators on the lam. At least this time, they made it out of the state.

purse junkie 05-13-2003 02:08 PM

There is no solution.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I'm repulsed and disgusted by the fat as much as the next self-important vain guy, but lardass and Ms. Lardass have their place, at the bar, next to the smoker and the boozehound. People should be allowed to do whatever the hell they like to themselves. I still can't figure out whay we can't use drugs we buy which get us really high for recreation, but we can get drugs legally which help the weakest and self-absorbed of us deal with reality. Someobody should take these prozac junkies and expose them to marijuana. Give that snivelling bitch in the psychiatrist's chair rambling about her "inability to connect" with others a mirror full of blow and a bottle of Dom. She won't need drugs for a few days after that. Oh, and that kid of yours who keeps telling you he knows it all - give him five hits of strong acid. He'll come back realizing just how little he knows about life, and if he doesn't, feed him a mushroom omellette.

S(a lot of people need a fat slap across the face)D
You might want to try switching to downers there SD....

paigowprincess 05-13-2003 02:09 PM

There is no solution.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
I have to say that I am not but I will take that as compliment if you will permit me to. I believe that you are selling yourself short if you think that I would say anything that you would not -- your rabidity (new word?) is something peons like myself can only admire and aspire to.


"Well, I am no slouch myself you know."
"Don't sell yourself short, Judge, I'd say that you're quite a slouch."
Actually, I read a couple of more posts and have decided that you are the demonic cyberoffspring of Sebby and myself, except I dont kniw that our kid would be into Nascar and Thrashers (whatever those are). This is a mighty high form of compliment. Save me a barstool and I will see you at Happy Hour. I got the smokes. Sebby will bring the one hitter.

evenodds 05-13-2003 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I think it's hysterical. I've been following this for three days now, and I'm glad that someone is finally growing some backbone in the legislature. Plus, it's been awhile since we've had legislators on the lam. At least this time, they made it out of the state.
I love the old Killer B story, but 51 legislators is probably too much to squeeze into one garage apartment.

kafka_esquire 05-13-2003 02:14 PM

There is no solution.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
All I know is, if this stupid Oreo ban succeeds because some people suck them down like industrial vacuum cleaners and then are surprised that there are negative health effects, and I am thereby deprived of my rare craving for a single-serving mini-pack from my local junk food emporium, I will be seriously, seriously pissed off. :box:

Force Hostess Sno-Balls off the market, and there'll be absolute hell to pay.
Agreed. Any of youse touch my Oreos, and I kill ya. Any of youse touch my stuff, I kill ya.

K(you can keep the snowballs. I hate coconut)E

Edited before posting to keep my post as short and non-substantive (mirroring LFM) as possible :)

ThrashersFan 05-13-2003 02:14 PM

There is no solution.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TexLex
That's cute, Mr. Churchill, but I don't believe you - about the stopping smoking thing, that is.

I am fine with a tax on junk food - I think it's a great idea, in fact. At the grocery store it never fails - the most junky processed food is found in the baskets of those who look like they subsist wholly on junky processed food and have never heard of fresh fruit. But banning overweigh people from public? You're either being sarcastic and I'm not reading it well today or you're just a meanie.

-T(looking to put on 25-35lbs by Thanksgiving)L ;)

edited to add: or you're Paigow pretending not to be Paigow fucking with me again.
Being what is considered a casual smoker, I have actually quit for years at a time and even today with having taken up the habit again average less than 5 per day and never smoke before sundown. I am confident that I could walk away.

Perhaps you are correct and I did insert some sarcasm to make my point. I also have a mean streak and low tolerance for people who will not take responsbility for their actions.

Of course, most of really gross fatties are too big to get out of the house so we only have to contend with the "normal" fatties. My biggest problem is not with the fatties themselves but with their attitude and excuses. Most smokers I know are polite about it and will ask before lighting up and will generally not impose their smoking on others unless it is permitted by both the establishment and their companions. Fatties blame their situation on everyone and want the world to change for them. Fatties do not apologize to you when they take up half your seat on an airplane or in a movie theatre -- they sue the airlines and the movie houses for not making the seats big enough. Fatties do not apologize when they squeeze into a seat at the table behind you and smash you into your own table until you cannot breath -- they blame the restaurant for putting the tables too close together. Fatties sit in restaurants and alone order as much as everyone at your table combined and sluppily inhale all of it and then want healthcare when they cannot walk or breath. Finally, fatties stuff their faces with a whole bag of Oreos in one sitting and then want the cookies banned so that people who can control themselves and enjoy a couple of Oreos now and then cannot because the fatties don't want to exercise any self-control.

ThrashersFan 05-13-2003 02:17 PM

Attention Hockey People
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
You have just earned yourself a special place in my heart. What a great game curling is. Rivals Quidditch for the most fun you can have with a broom and a bunch of rocks.

We also had a drunken sport called broomball. Did you ever play? Sort of hockey with taped up broom, a ball, no pads or skates, on ice after midnight. Add alcohol and stir.

taxwonk 05-13-2003 02:21 PM

There is no solution.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan

I can quit smoking today but you will still be a fatty.
And you will still be an arrogant, self-absorbed asswipe and an intolerant pox on the human race.

Just my .02

robustpuppy 05-13-2003 02:21 PM

There is no solution.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kafka_esquire
Edited before posting to keep my post as short and non-substantive (mirroring LFM) as possible :)
Kafka, is this your way of telling us that you are LFM, or are you simply infatuated?

paigowprincess 05-13-2003 02:24 PM

There is no solution.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Being what is considered a casual smoker, I have actually quit for years at a time and even today with having taken up the habit again average less than 5 per day and never smoke before sundown. I am confident that I could walk away.

Perhaps you are correct and I did insert some sarcasm to make my point. I also have a mean streak and low tolerance for people who will not take responsbility for their actions.

Of course, most of really gross fatties are too big to get out of the house so we only have to contend with the "normal" fatties. My biggest problem is not with the fatties themselves but with their attitude and excuses. Most smokers I know are polite about it and will ask before lighting up and will generally not impose their smoking on others unless it is permitted by both the establishment and their companions. Fatties blame their situation on everyone and want the world to change for them. Fatties do not apologize to you when they take up half your seat on an airplane or in a movie theatre -- they sue the airlines and the movie houses for not making the seats big enough. Fatties do not apologize when they squeeze into a seat at the table behind you and smash you into your own table until you cannot breath -- they blame the restaurant for putting the tables too close together. Fatties sit in restaurants and alone order as much as everyone at your table combined and sluppily inhale all of it and then want healthcare when they cannot walk or breath. Finally, fatties stuff their faces with a whole bag of Oreos in one sitting and then want the cookies banned so that people who can control themselves and enjoy a couple of Oreos now and then cannot because the fatties don't want to exercise any self-control.
I hate the flab overflow onto my subway seat as much as the next guy, the guy who cant fold his WSJ in half when reading it and the guy who jabs me with his umbrella. But, I hae to wonder if this blatant sizism isnt couterproductive. I mean, maybe this attitude is perceived by our larger friends and this induces self loathing, which drives them to binge? You actually seem to have downright contempt for these folks. Maybe that isnt good?

Case in point. I had an episode somewhat recently where this motherjumpin huge, and i mean huge, woman was waddling down Connecticut Ave in Dupont Circle and I was trying to walk briskly past her, passing on the left. Except she was really hard to pass bc of her size and the stupid trees that areplanted every five feet. Between them, I didnt hav e the sidewalk space. So I said, excuse me and tried to wedge my way trhough before the next sidewalk tree. She completely SNAPPED at me. So, the follwoing words flew out of my mouth without my being able to stop them "You take up too much space" (and obviously this is a personal issue for me as anyone who has read my umbrella posts would know- i hate crowded disorderly sidewalks where fast walksers cannot walk at a decent pace on the left side of the walk). I felt so awful after I said that, just horrible. And had she not been such a bitch in the first place, I woul d have apologozied, I probably drove that woman to have a gigantic steak and fries and milkshake snack.

LessinSF 05-13-2003 02:25 PM

There is no solution.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Fat Rant
Nice rant. It reminded me of one of mine (which I don't have the time to find right now) suggesting that big vats of arsenic or cyanide pills be placed in maximum security prison cafeterias. If violent felons want to commit suicide, we should encourage it. If people want to knowingly eat/drink/smoke themselves to death before they become drains on Social Security and the health care system, we should encourage that too. They should also be denied tax-payer funded medical assistance, i.e. no Medicare funded transplants for people that smoked/drank their functioning organs away.

Keep it up.

bilmore 05-13-2003 02:29 PM

Attention Hockey People
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
We also had a drunken sport called broomball. Did you ever play? Sort of hockey with taped up broom, a ball, no pads or skates, on ice after midnight. Add alcohol and stir.
Oh, good lord. You're from here.

NotFromHere 05-13-2003 02:32 PM

There is no solution
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Less Nice rant. It reminded me of one of mine (which I don't have the time to find right now) suggesting that big vats of arsenic or cyanide pills be placed in maximum security prison cafeterias. If violent felons want to commit suicide, we should encourage it. If people want to knowingly eat/drink/smoke themselves to death before they become drains on Social Security and the health care system, we should encourage that too. They should also be denied tax-payer funded medical assistance, i.e. no Medicare funded transplants for people that smoked/drank their functioning organs away.
But that's not the way it's moving is it? Isn't there a facility in Portland that manufactured a large gurney and ambulance for people over 400 pounds - since previously there weren't any? Isn't it a sign that if you're too big to fit in an ambulance that maybe perhaps that is your fate?

str8outavannuys 05-13-2003 02:32 PM

Web Toilet a hoax
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Web toilet

I love it when the AP and WSJ get pranked.
My brother registered www.ebathroom.com in 1996. He sold it for $1,000.

Pretty Little Flower 05-13-2003 02:34 PM

Attention Hockey People
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Oh, good lord. You're from here.
Not necessarily. Broomball is also really big in South Australia.

ThurgreedMarshall 05-13-2003 02:36 PM

There is no solution.
 
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Originally posted by paigowprincess
Case in point. I had an episode somewhat recently where this motherjumpin huge, and i mean huge, woman was waddling down Connecticut Ave in Dupont Circle and I was trying to walk briskly past her...So, the follwoing words flew out of my mouth without my being able to stop them "You take up too much space"...I probably drove that woman to have a gigantic steak and fries and milkshake snack.
No doubt at the steakhouse on Pennsylvania Avenue.

TM

paigowprincess 05-13-2003 02:44 PM

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Connect_the_Dots 05-13-2003 02:52 PM

Fatness and Health Problems
 
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I Even my mom's broken arm a few years ago got a "are you sure you need to go to the ER?" from my physician father. Unless we required a respirator, we were never deemed sick enough to garner much sympathy from those who were qualified to make decisions about our heatlh care.
I think we are related. My Dad's cure for most injuries is to tell you to "walk it off". When my cousin broke his arm jumping down a flight of stairs, he was taken to the hospital by my aunt but his complaints about the pain where met with "shut up, no one told you to jump down the stairs, so just shut the hell up."

I am not married, but sometimes I think it would be nice to settle down and raise a dysfunctional family.

Replaced_Texan 05-13-2003 02:56 PM

There is no solution
 
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Originally posted by NotFromHere
But that's not the way it's moving is it? Isn't there a facility in Portland that manufactured a large gurney and ambulance for people over 400 pounds - since previously there weren't any? Isn't it a sign that if you're too big to fit in an ambulance that maybe perhaps that is your fate?
In my college years, I worked in a hospital as a nurses' aide. There were three patients that required special beds because they weighed over a certain amount. (I think the limit on the "normal" beds was 350, but I know one of the patients was in the 400s.) Story relating to one of the patients At one point one summer (late 80s early 90s), we had more patients that needed the bed than we had beds.

The biggest problem for all patients that are bed confined is bed sores. "Normal" patients who are confied to their beds will develop sores where their body weight presses down the most. Usually on their backs, their hips and their shoulders. That's why nurses turn bed confined patients every two hours or so: to evenly distribute the weight, and to make sure that certain pressure points are not overly burdened with the weight of the patient. Even with turning, the sores can develop very easily, and once they develop, they're very difficult to treat. We had one patient who was paralyzed (fortunately) from the neck down. I could literally put my fist inside the hole in his back.

Anyhow, the problem with these morbidly obese people is that they have even more weight pressing down, and it's very hard to keep the weight from pressing down on the pressure points. The beds that help prevent pressure ulcers are ususally some sort of air system, so the patient is lying on a sophisticated air mattress that presses up in the spots most likely to have pressure ulcers, and the weight isn't pressing down on anything. Of course, the heavier the patient, the more likely that weight is going to overwhelm the pressure of the air.

I'm certain that in the decade or so that I've bee out of ICUs the equipment has gotten more sophisticated, but it's very expensive, and I'm sure that they're probably needing more of it than they did back then.


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