Note to all of you
 

I'm sorry, what were you saying? I didn't catch it. I was staring at your tits.

Note to all of you
 

Perhaps it's because he's uh, dead?

Lincoln versus Bush
 

Well, that's an impressive response to the substance of his statement. He says something about Lincoln, I point out how there is some support for his statement given Lincoln's words, and your response?

"Um.... Robert Byrd!! That's it!!!"

Dick.

Shocker
 

Maybe he is a "self-proclaimed jew". Like Hillary.

Lincoln versus Bush
 

I read the guys statement and still find him to be one of the most tolerable liberal Democrats in recent history. I have absolutely no problem with questioning Amerikan History as rewritten by [insert your target here... liberal book rewriters, the Republican party, whoever].

I was at the Lincoln memorial on fathers day [OT - the most depressing fucking day possible to go by the Vietnam wall], and reread his second inauguration speech again. The speech is amazing, but it gives a lot of insight into AL that would make many people today puke if they didn't know its source.

The civil war as our punishment for slavery? We'll take our punishment, and the South will take theirs, until God tells us all who is right? Those people were old skool religious back then, and that might be seen as a fault today (not be GWB to be sure). But they believed all sorts of weird shit, and I simply won't fault Barack Obama for pointing it out instead of asking us to keep our ancestors on some fucking pedestal.

If any of you ever see me on a pedestal, please take every chance you can to knock me off.

Sorry Penske, I'm with ya 99.5% of the time, and I'm sure Obama has lots of things I don't like, but overall I'm still quite impressed by him so far.

never alone
 

Wonk, you know I love you, platonically, nttawwt, and
I ain't here to convert atheists into believers
I'm just trying to say the way (the Union destroyed) school need teachers
The way Kathie Lee needed Regis that's the way yall need Jesus

Just as your fellow Chicagolander Kanye said

Lincoln versus Bush
 

Truth hurts.

Lincoln versus Bush
 

Well said. Penske, take a note -- it's possible to have a discussion that is not "Repubs good/bad, Dems bad/good."

After reading Obama's statement I went and read the Emanicpation Proclamation, probably for the first time since grade school. I would disagree with him on degree, but it's at least as much a military document than anything else.

Lincoln versus Bush
 

Fuck you, you piece of shit. On a daily basis you call me a racist because I'm a Democrat. Go fuck yourself.

Have you ever expressed a thought that was not "Democrats are evil people?" Do you and your socks wallow in shit all day long?

Is it your considered conclusion that Obama is either a racist, or just a dumb nigger, because he has joined forces with Byrd?

Go fuck yourself.

Penske does not think Sidd Finch is a racist
 

UNTIL FURTHER EXPRESS NOTICE TO THE CONTRARY,PLEASE LET IT BE KNOWN THAT I DO NOT, AND NEVER HAVE CONSIDERED SIDD FINCH A RACIST, ON EITHER THE INTERNET OR IN REAL LIFE (ALTHOUGH I HAVE NEVER MET HIM BUT I DO KNOW WHO HE IS).

I REGRET ANY INFERENCE THAT ANYONE HAS DRAWN THAT I MAY HAVE IMPLIED ACCUSED OR OTHERWISE SUGGESTED THAT SIDD IS AND/OR WAS A RACIST.

THANKS,

PENSKE

Penske does not think Sidd Finch is a racist
 

I must be a racist -- I'm a Democrat.

And I'm never, ever, ever allowed to say anything negative about Lincoln or any other Republican as a result, because Robert Byrd is my moral conscience -- right? Isn't that the Penske worldview?

Lincoln versus Bush
 

I think before Obama and other Dems (party leaders not you) start engaging in the type of historical revisionism that is designed to tear down every righteous foundation of our society, that they should look to their own house and the evil within it.

Like Kleagle Byrd or Killer Kennedy or communist plant Madame Hillary.

Penske does not think Sidd Finch is a racist
 

Sidd, I challenge you and the other few righteous Dems here and elsewhere in the minority of your party to as actively tear down the racists and liars in your own party and its leadership as you seek to tear down W and his Supreme Court nominees.

Of course, take this with a grain of salt because of course, as a card-carrying republican I am a racist by association with Lott and Jesse Helms.

Lincoln versus Bush
 

I don't think that questioning Lincoln's legacy is tearing down the foundations of America. I guess I just believe that the foundations of America are strong enough, and that Lincoln's true legacy is solid enough, to withstand scrutiny. Perhaps you feel otherwise.

I have no doubt, of course, that you are fully aware of the context of Obama's statement, and further that you can say with confidence that he in fact has done nothing to deal with "the evil within his house", as you put it.

Tell me -- what do you think Obama, or anyone else, should do about Byrd? An exorcism ceremony?

And if the challenge is to me personally -- what do you propose I do? I've said Byrd is a racist piece of shit. I haven't said anything of the sort about Bush (I don't think that of Bush), or most likely any other Repub -- except possibly Jesse Helms, who I do think is a racist piece of shit but who I really hate because of his support for terrorism* in southern Africa.


*What else do you call it when people shoot teachers and chop off children's arms?

Lincoln versus Bush
 

I think he should speak out against him at any relevant opportunity and publicly not he refuses to associate with him. That would satisfy me. He should also refuse to associate with cowardly killers like Kennedy.

Take up arms against his tyranny(?)

You do know Helms is out of office, right?