Sport, or not a Sport?
 

Now footie is a Sport How did ESPN fail to make that game more popular? It's like wide-open rugby without all the scrums and confusing shit. It's essentially the playground game of kill the carrier (aka kill the man with the ball), plus a scoring element. And the best refs in sport -- the ice cream guys with the one or two forearmed point. Great stuff. All it needs are podium girls.

It's not a done deal. Virginia is going to lobby heavily to get Va. Tech in, and bounce the 'Cuse (BC would stay because there's a better television market than upstate NY).

The only redeeming value it has it that the local college games on TV in DC will less frequently be matchups like UNC v. Wake Forest, while hte rest of the country sees Miami/Michigan/Okla/USC play some other ranked team.

Sport, or not a Sport?
 

That makes sense, but what are all those things the ancient Greeks did, like javelin, discus, shot put etc. games, sports, what? Or are those technically "feats of strength"? (Like in Festivus).

Buffy (not new thread)
 

I've taken to thinking of them as "good in the sense that the Inquisition was good," in that they sometimes do good (i.e.: facilitate getting the bad people), but generally do more harm than good, and tend in practice to be more about the politics & bureocracy of justifying their continued bossiness.

But I had to get up to get another shot to dull the pain before the old chick started talking, so I sort of missed something that might have passed for non-waste-of-time exposition there.

And, dammit, David Boreanaz is SO DAMN FAT now compared to seasons 1-3. His whole face is lost in mush.

Sport, or not a Sport?
 

Those were games. (I.e.: the Olympic Games?) Games are organized contests (usually but not always athletic) engaged in by teams or individuals and conducted according to specific rules. Generally, competition = game.

Sport, or not a Sport?
 

Playing outside in Texas in July isn't "expending energy," it's merely self-immolation. But if you tell me I can drink lots of cocktails while I play, plus eat snacks, I'll call it anything the hell ya want. ;)

Sport, or not a Sport?
 

It's great how you use the word "classically" to describe an aristocratic lifestyle that evolved solely in the Modern era for a miniscule population, and that is already lost for all but a few Edwardian SCA dorks.

For eons before that, the "classic" sports you list were a means of subsistence, and people disported themselves, if at all, by feats of strength and exertion, like running, throwing, and wrestling contests. Games, perhaps, but "sport" is not circumscribed as those activities performed while wearing brogues.

Sport, or not a Sport?
 

Interesting. I generally don't think about it by making such fine distinctions. A sport in my mind is any competetive activity not involving a board or table, where the competition usually (but not always) takes place out of doors. I guess it would also involve strength, endurance and coordination, which would eliminate bowling, croquet and bocce, but doesn't necessarily involve defense, like downhill skiing, but I could be totally off base here. I'm sure Thurgreed will let me know. :D

Sport, or not a Sport?
 

Perhaps I am slow, but this "controversy" is absurd.

Hunting is considered a sport, shooting is not.

The definition of sport is "a game or competitve activity involving physical exertion."

A game on the other hand is "a form of play or sport, esp. a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck."

(Definitions from the Oxford Encyclopedic; emphasis, mine.)

edited to remove unreferenced quote. e/o

Sport, or not a Sport?
 

I understand that - I guess what I meant was is the sport/game distinction a British thing (ie. the things you call sports sound like what the Queen does, not what the Greeks did), or was that distinction and those definitions there way back when with the original Olympic Games. Did the greeks call it the "games" or is that just what we call it filtered through an Anglo view of the world.

I am thinking too much about this.

[Edited to say Atticus said what I am trying to get at much better]

Sport, or not a Sport?
 

This reminds me of the old feminist joke (yes, there are some) where if guys could menstruate they'd be competing over who had the worst cramps, and bragging "Yeah, I'm on the rag, man!" and clapping each other on the butt...

Sport, or not a Sport?
 

And they would likely invent a sport around it, like farting to blow tampons out of your ass for distance.:eek:

to change the topic back to an old favorite
 

Does anyone know the difference between a "Happy Trails" and a "Brazilian"? I would prefer to ask here first rather than asking my esthetician (who would fall over if I asked for one because I think she thinks I am not the type who would get something like that). But anyway. Happy Trails is an option where I go, and just sounds more fun, so I was thinking about it.

Sport, or not a Sport?
 

that was the most disgusting thing I have ever read.

to change the topic back to an old favorite
 

Seeing as how I am a do-it-yourselfer, I don't KNOW, but I would assume the "Happy Trails" is a thin strip surrounding the area, if you know what I mean, and extending up the front. Sort of the equivalent of a thin fu manchu. I'm sure someone will tell me if I am wrong.

Sport, or not a Sport?
 

Don't know if a distinction exists in Greek or if it was imposed by translators using the (certainly at the time correct) applicable English word, which seems more likely. Not that it matters since the debate is about a word in English. But you're right, it's a distinction made more often in Britain now, and it could be considered a British distinction in that they invented the language and so got to set the basic terms before we N.A.s got to play with it. Most modern dictionaries reflect common usage (as they should) and you're sort of down to linguists and curmudgeons recognizing the difference - find me someone who pronounces "hospitable" with the emphasis on the first sylable and I'll bet you 5 cents he or she considers football a game. But in English the distinction goes back to the time English adopted the word. The french/anglo-norman root, too, emphasized frivolous pleasure as distinct from competition.

Edited to say: you are correct, atticus, hunting done for subsistence or to earn a living was not considered "sport," nor was running done of necessity rather than for fun. Before hunting, shooting and fishing became the most common outdoor "sports," dancing 'round the May pole was also considered sport, often accompanied by other "sports" like rolling in the morning dew, picking flowers for each other and activities that seem to be strange archaic forms of "spin the bottle." I rather wish they'd bring those back.

Brazilian
 

:eek: I'm also a do-it-myselfer - but I was told that Brazil is about as small a runway as you could do - including no runway at all. Happy trails sounds like there would be more "foliage" in the "forest."

Brazilian
 

The GF has told me that the brazilian is completely bare.

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Are you calling my orgasms immature, Siggy?

Brazilian
 

But, from what I hear, Happy Trails is more than a landing strip. So what is the landing strip again?

BR(I though the "totally bare" was a "Playboy" or something and the landing strip was the Brazillian, but I have no basis for that)C

Brazilian
 

According to an article at salon.com, the Brazilian leaves a tiny crew cut triangle, everything else front and back is gone. I couldn't open the article on Happy Trails.

Brazilian
 

Now I'm thinking that I could be wrong...


My word is never gospel.

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I don't do opinions without seeing the briefs.

Brazilian
 

According to my esthetician, a brazilian is completely bare and a playboy brazilian leaves a very small landing strip (not a very long one but wider than a hitler stach or whatever someone was talking about a few weeks ago)

Sport, or not a Sport?
 

If hunting is a sport, then why are the hunted animals called "game," hmmm?

Brazilian
 

I don't have an esthetician but this is my understanding as well.

You know you see too much porn when it looks weird to see a full muff like the woman in One Hour Photo. It looked like a toupee to me.

And I am SO glad that I am not an esthetician. It's like being a prostitute--not so bad if you can pick your clients, but otherwise horrid.

Sport, or not a Sport?
 

Ever smell a football locker room?

Not "sporty".

"Gamey".

Brazilian
 

I am glad I did not ask my esthetician because I would have looked stupid. According to that salon article, a happy trails is that thing that some people get when they have hair that goes from their belly button down to their pussy (actually I have only ever seen it on men, and obviously they don't have a pussy). So a happy trails wax is when they take that off. I don't have one, so I don't need it. That is kind of disappointing - I thought it might be something different.

Brazilian
 

Sacrilege.

Brazilian
 

Shouldn't these estheticians be more specialized? They sound like small town barbers from the '50s, where you had two choices: buzz cut or crew cut. Instead of asking for a specific "do" at these beavershops, can't you just say: "a little off the sides and top, about 1/4 inch length, and nix the sideburns ()"??

FWIW, my friend's wife is an esthetician, and the guys in the group have threatened on many occasions to go to her salon to have her "clean them up" so to speak...:mr:

Brazilian
 

Huh. So what is it when it is the fu manchu-like thing (it's like a half-millimeter strip all around the goods)? I have never understood how this is accomplished, but it is sort-of impressive.

Brazilian
 

It means hubby's mustache is getting too long.

Brazilian
 

No. The completely bare is called the "Damn! I am soooo getting laid"

not7y(I've heard it alternately called the "schoolgirl", but that borders on the vulgar)S

Buffy (not new thread)
 

Uh, sorry to reintroduce this topic, but I was just reading the "I hate Spike" article on Salon and the accompanying response letters, and I just wanted to ask something:

Everyone talks about Spikey being on some "quest" to get his soul back, that he got it back so Buffy would love him, etc. Is it just me, or am I right that he never wanted his soul back and he went to the soul-giving demon guy because he wanted to get his chip removed so he could kill people again & be generally bad and give Buffy "what she deserved" for rejecting him? And the demon guy, in his tricky, nefarious demony way, instead twisted it (as is the way of all insufficiently specified wish granting) and made Spike able to give Buffy "what she deserves" by giving him his soul back.

I mean, is it just me? I thought that was the obvious way to read the season 6 ender, but maybe I'm bonkers.

Brazilian
 

Borders?

Brazilian
 

How is this a threat???? Their wives/gfs say "NO! I love your butt [or whatever, but you had the wriggling butt emoticon so I'm going with butt] all hairy!!! Don't get it taken off!!"

Singh apologizes to Sorenstam
 

Agreed. The "you both suck" was a throwaway line.

It's like talking to a brick wall. What you said is true. It just doesn't mean anything in the context of our argument. The point is, the further from the green you are, the less consistently you land on it. Similarly, the less lofted your club, the more difficult it is to stop it on the green. I can't make it much simpler.

TM

Buffy (not new thread)
 

That was my interpretation as well. As for your earlier question about the watchers, I think the old chick was referring to the cave-manny guys who created the original slayer and offered to give Buffy more power earlier this season.


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I didn't think last night was that bad. Yes, the speeches are annoying, but there was some good stuff: e.g., Anya and Andrew talk pre- and post- speechy stuff; Indiana-Jonesey entrances by first Buffy (saving the girls from the Ubers) and then from Angel; Dawn tazing Xander.

Brazilian
 

It is posts like these that make me pleased that I married a Scandinavian. Hairy butts? Not in my world.

Brazilian
 

I'm a good 1/4 Scandinavian, yet I have a hairy ass. Do I blame my Scottish heritage?

Ollie (curse you, William Wallace!) Ramone

Brazilian
 

Does someone have a link to this Brazilian article on Salon? Or is it the old one where the author goes to the J sisters and talks about how a Brazilian changed Gwynneth Paltrow's life?