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Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 06-07-2017 02:56 PM
Re: Maga
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508129)
Not so much, because the turnout for different groups goes up and down.

Bless you for being willing to vote for both parties -- if voters won't do that, then things go to hell, as we are discovering.
I actually have one race I blanked I should have voted Republican in, which is the Weld/Silber race in Massachusetts. I just couldn't vote for either, but, frankly, Weld may have been a sniveling little patrician prig eager to gut higher ed in the state (we have Harvard, why do we need UMass?), but he wasn't a racist and that should have been enough.

I'm more willing to cross party lines today than I ever have been, but less likely to find a Republican worth crossing for.

Tyrone Slothrop 06-07-2017 03:07 PM
Re: Maga
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 508138)
I actually have one race I blanked I should have voted Republican in, which is the Weld/Silber race in Massachusetts. I just couldn't vote for either, but, frankly, Weld may have been a sniveling little patrician prig eager to gut higher ed in the state (we have Harvard, why do we need UMass?), but he wasn't a racist and that should have been enough.

I'm more willing to cross party lines today than I ever have been, but less likely to find a Republican worth crossing for.
Yep. I voted for Weld.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-07-2017 04:57 PM
Gest on Trump's supporters
 
“So much of Donald Trump’s politics is symbolic,” Gest explained. “They’re symbolic in the sense that this is what people want to hear and if it doesn’t get done, it’s almost beside the point because he’s elevating the prerogatives of his constituents to the national stage after having been relegated to the fringes of American politics for decades.”

“When Donald Trump went up in Cleveland and said messianically,’I am your voice,’ that’s precisely what people heard,” Gest continued. “The sense of having a voice suddenly, after feeling voiceless for so long is powerful. It’s not in their cultural interests to vote against him, no matter how little he has delivered to actually help them in any kind of material way.”

“The way they understood racism is different from the way we understand racism,” said Gest. “For them, racism has become an instrument of silence. It is a way of invalidating people. By saying someone is a racist, it means they cease to matter. Don’t listen to them.”

“So, when people said to me, ‘Now, I’m not a racist but …,’ what they were actually saying to me was, ‘Listen to what I’m about to tell you, and don’t dismiss me.’”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.399db293bc28

TM

Tyrone Slothrop 06-07-2017 05:33 PM
Re: Gest on Trump's supporters
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 508140)
“So much of Donald Trump’s politics is symbolic,” Gest explained. “They’re symbolic in the sense that this is what people want to hear and if it doesn’t get done, it’s almost beside the point because he’s elevating the prerogatives of his constituents to the national stage after having been relegated to the fringes of American politics for decades.”

“When Donald Trump went up in Cleveland and said messianically,’I am your voice,’ that’s precisely what people heard,” Gest continued. “The sense of having a voice suddenly, after feeling voiceless for so long is powerful. It’s not in their cultural interests to vote against him, no matter how little he has delivered to actually help them in any kind of material way.”

“The way they understood racism is different from the way we understand racism,” said Gest. “For them, racism has become an instrument of silence. It is a way of invalidating people. By saying someone is a racist, it means they cease to matter. Don’t listen to them.”

“So, when people said to me, ‘Now, I’m not a racist but …,’ what they were actually saying to me was, ‘Listen to what I’m about to tell you, and don’t dismiss me.’”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.399db293bc28

TM
“Much of white working-class politics has been to create distinction with a group that they thought they were above,” Gest told me. “So much of American history has been white voters seeking to reinstate ways to subordinate people of ethno-religious and ethno-racial difference.”

It's about social status, and subordination.

Adder 06-08-2017 11:17 AM
Hello
 
If we had a functioning Congress, impeachment proceedings would be imminent. But we don't. Fun.

sebastian_dangerfield 06-08-2017 11:47 AM
Re: Maga
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508116)
My recollection is that she has said and done some truly loopy things. To be honest, I don't recall what. Hey -- if you like Maxine, promote her because you like her, not because it pisses off other people.
She can be quite funny. On Maher (where she's a not infrequent guest), she can fire off some funny one liners. But in serious exchanges, she seems to get overly excited, near-hyperventilating, and collapse into the worst of word saladry.

sebastian_dangerfield 06-08-2017 11:53 AM
Re: Maga
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508134)
What you call Allah I think of as Jesus's dad, although I'm a little confused lately about how to think of Jesus's divinity/non-divinity.
As a character (or embellished historical figure), there's pretty solid evidence his storyline was based on Zoroastrian myths.

Re that confusion, I'd say flip a coin.

sebastian_dangerfield 06-08-2017 12:02 PM
Re: Maga
 
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You are absolutely dreaming. People on the right are not, by and large, motivated by pragmatic arguments about what would work better.
Enough of them to make a difference in the election are. I've voted D and R. So has Hank. You can swing people like us.

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They are motivated by disagreement with and resentment of the left, of "coastal elites" and colored people.
That's just the cuckoo working class GOP people. A D can easily win without them if he/she peels off moderate swing voters.

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They don't mind wasteful government administration if the waste is going to people like them.
Again, that's the cuckoo pants working class GOP folks.

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If Democrats used your lines and threaten to win elections with them, so-called moderate Republicans would find new reasons to be skeptical.
Maybe. But I think you'll find a lot would be more open minded than you realize. And what do you have to lose? What's your option? More of doing the same tired thing over and over again and waiting for a better result?

Tyrone Slothrop 06-08-2017 12:05 PM
Re: Hello
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 508151)
If we had a functioning Congress, impeachment proceedings would be imminent. But we don't. Fun.
It's not about the functionality of Congress. It's about the Republican Party.

Tyrone Slothrop 06-08-2017 12:07 PM
Re: Maga
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508153)
As a character (or embellished historical figure), there's pretty solid evidence his storyline was based on Zoroastrian myths.

Re that confusion, I'd say flip a coin.
Much of the New Testament was written decades later by people who did not personally know him. The different books were written at different times and places by different people for different purposes.

Tyrone Slothrop 06-08-2017 12:15 PM
Re: Maga
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508154)
Enough of them to make a difference in the election are. I've voted D and R. So has Hank. You can swing people like us.
This is at least 75% correct, but it's not clear to me that there are enough voters like Hank to make a difference.

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That's just the cuckoo working class GOP people. A D can easily win without them if he/she peels off moderate swing voters.
You go to war with the voters you have, not the voters like Idealized Swing Voter Sebby.

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Maybe. But I think you'll find a lot would be more open minded than you realize. And what do you have to lose? What's your option? More of doing the same tired thing over and over again and waiting for a better result?
Where have you been the last two decades? For years, Republican lawmakers who worked with Democrats have been punished for it. Remember Robert Bennett? Arlen Specter? Jim Jeffords? And for eight years, we had a President committed to the idea that he could reach across the aisle to get things done, and eager to engage with Republicans. The Republican Party would not work with him. On health care, for example, Democrats took a policy approach originally developed by conservatives and then implemented by the Republican governor of Massachusetts, and could not get Republicans to sign on, resulting in this nonsense -- which you subscribe to -- that compelling people to buy private insurance violates your constitutional rights. When Heritage and Mitt Romney were pushing Romneycare, you didn't hear that objection, but supposed moderate Republicans all fell in line behind lockstep opposition to it when Democrats pushed it. Republicans may say they're open minded, but it's not when it might actually involve voting against other Republicans for something that Democrats support. And that is how we got to Trump.

What are my options? One is what TM said to do: Organize and turn out. Is there another?

Adder 06-08-2017 01:04 PM
Re: Hello
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508155)
It's not about the functionality of Congress. It's about the Republican Party.
Right.

Tyrone Slothrop 06-08-2017 01:09 PM
Re: Hello
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 508158)
Right.
Just to tie two threads together, the basic problem is that while some Republicans are willing to make moderate noises when it doesn't matter, most Republicans are unwilling to take concrete action to split from their party, whether by voting for a candidate from another party, or by voting for legislation that Democrats support and Republicans oppose. Also, because many Republicans form their policy preferences in opposition to Democrats, the party is fundamentally unable to do anything in a bipartisan way, or to respond to pressure to moderate.

sebastian_dangerfield 06-08-2017 01:54 PM
Re: Hello
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder (Post 508151)
If we had a functioning Congress, impeachment proceedings would be imminent. But we don't. Fun.
Or perhaps Trump was just engaging in business as usual?
LANKFORD: Then you made a comment earlier a the attorney general, the previous attorney general asking you about the investigation on the Clinton e-mails saying you were asked to not call it an investigation anymore. But call it a matter. You said that confused you. You can give us additional details on that?

COMEY: Well, it concerned me because we were at the point where we refused to confirm the existence as we typically do of an investigation for months. And was getting to a place where that looked silly because the campaigns we're talking about interacting with the FBI in the course of our work. The Clinton campaign at the time was using all kinds of euphemisms, security matters, things like that for what was going on.

We were getting to a place where the attorney general and I were both going to testify and talk publicly about it I wanted to know was she going to authorize us to confirm we have an investigation. She said yes, don't call it that, call it a matter. I said why would I do that? She said, just call it a matter. You look back in hindsight, if I looked back and said this isn't a hill worth dying on so I just said the press is going to completely ignore it. That's what happened when I said we opened a matter.

They all reported the FBI has an investigation open. So that concerned me because that language tracked the way the campaign was talking about the FBI's work and that's concerning.

LANKFORD: You gave impression that the campaign was somehow using the language as the FBI because you were handed the campaign language?

COMEY: I don't know whether it was intentional or not but it gave the impression that the attorney general was looking to align the way we talked about our work with the way it was describing that. It was inaccurate. We had an investigation open for the federal bureau of investigation, we had an investigation open at the time. That gave me a quesy feeling.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/08/politi...nch/index.html

Adder 06-08-2017 02:48 PM
Re: Hello
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508160)
Or perhaps Trump was just engaging in business as usual?
LANKFORD: Then you made a comment earlier a the attorney general, the previous attorney general asking you about the investigation on the Clinton e-mails saying you were asked to not call it an investigation anymore. But call it a matter. You said that confused you. You can give us additional details on that?

COMEY: Well, it concerned me because we were at the point where we refused to confirm the existence as we typically do of an investigation for months. And was getting to a place where that looked silly because the campaigns we're talking about interacting with the FBI in the course of our work. The Clinton campaign at the time was using all kinds of euphemisms, security matters, things like that for what was going on.

We were getting to a place where the attorney general and I were both going to testify and talk publicly about it I wanted to know was she going to authorize us to confirm we have an investigation. She said yes, don't call it that, call it a matter. I said why would I do that? She said, just call it a matter. You look back in hindsight, if I looked back and said this isn't a hill worth dying on so I just said the press is going to completely ignore it. That's what happened when I said we opened a matter.

They all reported the FBI has an investigation open. So that concerned me because that language tracked the way the campaign was talking about the FBI's work and that's concerning.

LANKFORD: You gave impression that the campaign was somehow using the language as the FBI because you were handed the campaign language?

COMEY: I don't know whether it was intentional or not but it gave the impression that the attorney general was looking to align the way we talked about our work with the way it was describing that. It was inaccurate. We had an investigation open for the federal bureau of investigation, we had an investigation open at the time. That gave me a quesy feeling.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/08/politi...nch/index.html
What about that is the same as asking the FBI for his personal loyalty to you, asking him more than once to stop investigating your friend, firing him because he didn't, telling the Russians that you fired him to take the heat off and then publicly saying you fired him to end the investigation?

I mean, aside from your deep-seated need to insist that this administration is not substantively different.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-08-2017 05:53 PM
Re: Hello
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder (Post 508161)
What about that is the same as asking the FBI for his personal loyalty to you, asking him more than once to stop investigating your friend, firing him because he didn't, telling the Russians that you fired him to take the heat off and then publicly saying you fired him to end the investigation?

I mean, aside from your deep-seated need to insist that this administration is not substantively different.
Why? Why are you asking him this question? What is the fucking point?

TM

sebastian_dangerfield 06-08-2017 07:31 PM
Re: Hello
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adder (Post 508161)
What about that is the same as asking the FBI for his personal loyalty to you, asking him more than once to stop investigating your friend, firing him because he didn't, telling the Russians that you fired him to take the heat off and then publicly saying you fired him to end the investigation?

I mean, aside from your deep-seated need to insist that this administration is not substantively different.
It's a stinkbomb at the parade. That sort of thing pleases me when it happens in any situation where one side thinks it's going to be their "big day."

Actually, the whole thing was largely blehhh.

But yes, Lynch's behaviors are on the same continuum. Much milder, but still smelling up the place. And unlike our fearless leader, she knows better.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 06-09-2017 09:25 AM
Re: Maga
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508156)
Much of the New Testament was written decades later by people who did not personally know him. The different books were written at different times and places by different people for different purposes.
The Zoroastrian myth thing (likewise the same theory repeated with Hindu or Buddhist influence replacing Zoroastrian) can only be even suggested by someone who hasn't read much in the way of either Avestian texts or Biblical scholarship. There's not a lot of overlap in either the story line or the theology. This is the kind of theory 18 year olds on mushrooms develop while trying to half-remember assignments they read while stoned.

Adder 06-09-2017 10:34 AM
Re: Hello
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508182)
But yes, Lynch's behaviors are on the same continuum. Much milder, but still smelling up the place.
Except it's not. She talked with him about how he was going to communicate with the public. She did not ask him not to investigate.

She shouldn't have done it because it looks bad when he tells people about it. Not because it was obstruction of justice.

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And unlike our fearless leader, she knows better.
Right, he didn't know better, which is why he twice made sure no one else was in the room while he was doing it.

TM is right. As usual.

Tyrone Slothrop 06-09-2017 11:04 AM
Re: Hello
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508160)
Or perhaps Trump was just engaging in business as usual?
LANKFORD: Then you made a comment earlier a the attorney general, the previous attorney general asking you about the investigation on the Clinton e-mails saying you were asked to not call it an investigation anymore. But call it a matter. You said that confused you. You can give us additional details on that?

COMEY: Well, it concerned me because we were at the point where we refused to confirm the existence as we typically do of an investigation for months. And was getting to a place where that looked silly because the campaigns we're talking about interacting with the FBI in the course of our work. The Clinton campaign at the time was using all kinds of euphemisms, security matters, things like that for what was going on.

We were getting to a place where the attorney general and I were both going to testify and talk publicly about it I wanted to know was she going to authorize us to confirm we have an investigation. She said yes, don't call it that, call it a matter. I said why would I do that? She said, just call it a matter. You look back in hindsight, if I looked back and said this isn't a hill worth dying on so I just said the press is going to completely ignore it. That's what happened when I said we opened a matter.

They all reported the FBI has an investigation open. So that concerned me because that language tracked the way the campaign was talking about the FBI's work and that's concerning.

LANKFORD: You gave impression that the campaign was somehow using the language as the FBI because you were handed the campaign language?

COMEY: I don't know whether it was intentional or not but it gave the impression that the attorney general was looking to align the way we talked about our work with the way it was describing that. It was inaccurate. We had an investigation open for the federal bureau of investigation, we had an investigation open at the time. That gave me a quesy feeling.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/08/politi...nch/index.html
Seriously, Sebby?

Tyrone Slothrop 06-09-2017 11:08 AM
Re: Maga
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 508183)
The Zoroastrian myth thing (likewise the same theory repeated with Hindu or Buddhist influence replacing Zoroastrian) can only be even suggested by someone who hasn't read much in the way of either Avestian texts or Biblical scholarship. There's not a lot of overlap in either the story line or the theology. This is the kind of theory 18 year olds on mushrooms develop while trying to half-remember assignments they read while stoned.
I read the following on my commute this morning:

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Jesus's resemblance to mythological figures such as Osiris, Hercules, and Mithra, which is sometimes argued as evidence that he, too, is a purely mythological figure, is both vastly overstated and not nearly as interesting as the Christ-as-myth theory's proponents appear to believe.
From Tom Bissell's Apostle, p 323.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 06-09-2017 11:39 AM
Re: Maga
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508186)
I read the following on my commute this morning:



From Tom Bissell's Apostle, p 323.
But if you're a fan of recapitulated Osiris myths there is some really great stuff in Moby Dick.

sebastian_dangerfield 06-09-2017 12:03 PM
Re: Maga
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 508183)
The Zoroastrian myth thing (likewise the same theory repeated with Hindu or Buddhist influence replacing Zoroastrian) can only be even suggested by someone who hasn't read much in the way of either Avestian texts or Biblical scholarship. There's not a lot of overlap in either the story line or the theology. This is the kind of theory 18 year olds on mushrooms develop while trying to half-remember assignments they read while stoned.
What I've seen on hallucinogens, particularly mushrooms, makes a hell of a lot more sense than organized religion.

No amount of analysis or discussion of religion in scholarly terms will elevate it. You can't shine shit, or make bad fiction into biography.

It's nonsense. I cannot fathom how people as smart as you could see otherwise. I'd let it go, of course, as people are entitled to believe whatever silly nonsense they like, but religion is one of the prime sources is for needless division and violence in the world. There is no good reason to carry its water.

sebastian_dangerfield 06-09-2017 12:06 PM
Re: Hello
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508185)
Seriously, Sebby?
You've tried cases. It's great fun to see a prosecutor get hit with a black swan in the midst of a strident cross-examination. This is along those lines.

Tyrone Slothrop 06-09-2017 01:01 PM
Re: Maga
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 508187)
But if you're a fan of recapitulated Osiris myths there is some really great stuff in Moby Dick.
I'm a fan of Moby Dick, but I don't think I have an opinion one way or the other about recapitulated Osiris myths as a more general phenomenon.

Tyrone Slothrop 06-09-2017 01:04 PM
Re: Hello
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508189)
You've tried cases. It's great fun to see a prosecutor get hit with a black swan in the midst of a strident cross-examination. This is along those lines.
According to an anonymous source linked to Lynch in this morning's New York Times, "use of the bland term was intended to neither confirm nor deny that the investigation existed — as was standard Justice Department and F.B.I. practice." From my own familiarity with the way that DOJ crafts press releases, this makes lots of sense. Your commitment to finding a black swan here, on the other hand, is telling. I guess if you're going to eschew religion, you need some other form of nonsense to be intellectually and spiritually committed to.

sebastian_dangerfield 06-09-2017 03:10 PM
You've got no love for the underdog/That's why you will not survive...
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508191)
According to an anonymous source linked to Lynch in this morning's New York Times, "use of the bland term was intended to neither confirm nor deny that the investigation existed — as was standard Justice Department and F.B.I. practice." From my own familiarity with the way that DOJ crafts press releases, this makes lots of sense. Your commitment to finding a black swan here, on the other hand, is telling. I guess if you're going to eschew religion, you need some other form of nonsense to be intellectually and spiritually committed to.
It was enough to get Comey's panties in a twist.

Show me a room full of people high on self-righteousness and sure they're going get satisfaction, like the people who've been salivating over Trump being savaged in the Comey hearings, and I'll always try to pee on the party.

If you're rooting for the authorities, you've no romance in your heart.

(Besides, the Comey hearing is a joke. What Trump should fear is Mueller.)

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 06-09-2017 03:15 PM
Re: Maga
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508190)
I'm a fan of Moby Dick, but I don't think I have an opinion one way or the other about recapitulated Osiris myths as a more general phenomenon.
I think Melville kind of spoiled it for the rest. He simply did it too well.

Kind of like Nixon with vain, corrupt, unconstitutional, megalomania. He played out a grand tragedy, worthy even of a grand opera (Nixon in China) where this Moron is just playing out a farce (I mean, Trump dissin' Qatar would be more a second rate The Producers than a grand opera).

Pretty Little Flower 06-09-2017 03:41 PM
Re: You've got no love for the underdog/That's why you will not survive...
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508192)
It was enough to get Comey's panties in a twist.

Show me a room full of people high on self-righteousness and sure they're going get satisfaction, like the people who've been salivating over Trump being savaged in the Comey hearings, and I'll always try to pee on the party.

If you're rooting for the authorities, you've no romance in your heart.

(Besides, the Comey hearing is a joke. What Trump should fear is Mueller.)
Sebastian. Trump is THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES now. It is actually fucking astounding how even your psilocybin-and-whiskey addled brain could cast Trump, the leader of the most powerful nation in the world who has decided the rules don't apply to him and he can use the power of the office to do whatever the fuck he pleases, as the underdog.

Back with the Daily Dose after slacking off most of the week. Some Jack McDuff with some instrumental grooves to slide you into a smoking hot weekend (at least here) real easy. The Heatin' System:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOVyNuzUmJM

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 06-09-2017 04:18 PM
Re: You've got no love for the underdog/That's why you will not survive...
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 508194)
Sebastian. Trump is THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES now. It is actually fucking astounding how even your psilocybin-and-whiskey addled brain could cast Trump, the leader of the most powerful nation in the world who has decided the rules don't apply to him and he can use the power of the office to do whatever the fuck he pleases, as the underdog.

Back with the Daily Dose after slacking off most of the week. Some Jack McDuff with some instrumental grooves to slide you into a smoking hot weekend (at least here) real easy. The Heatin' System:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOVyNuzUmJM
In Sebby's defense, wouldn't you admit the guy is an underdog in any battle of the wits?

sebastian_dangerfield 06-09-2017 04:35 PM
Re: You've got no love for the underdog/That's why you will not survive...
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 508194)
Sebastian. Trump is THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES now. It is actually fucking astounding how even your psilocybin-and-whiskey addled brain could cast Trump, the leader of the most powerful nation in the world who has decided the rules don't apply to him and he can use the power of the office to do whatever the fuck he pleases, as the underdog.

Back with the Daily Dose after slacking off most of the week. Some Jack McDuff with some instrumental grooves to slide you into a smoking hot weekend (at least here) real easy. The Heatin' System:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOVyNuzUmJM
I rooted for Bill Clinton as well.

Who doesn't love an acquittal, or even (perhaps particularly) a jury nullification?

Tyrone Slothrop 06-09-2017 04:39 PM
Re: You've got no love for the underdog/That's why you will not survive...
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508192)
It was enough to get Comey's panties in a twist.
No, it was a bone for Comey to throw to Republican Senators. That is hardly a black swan event.

sebastian_dangerfield 06-09-2017 04:40 PM
Re: You've got no love for the underdog/That's why you will not survive...
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 508195)
In Sebby's defense, wouldn't you admit the guy is an underdog in any battle of the wits?
That too.

It's hysterical watching him and wondering, how long can this cat keep winning so ugly? It's Pythonesque. And everybody's so exercised. The media and the left and even a lot of the GOP -- they've all lost their minds.

It's Peter Sellers' Being There, only the gardner's a pathologically narcisistic r/e developer from Queens.

sebastian_dangerfield 06-09-2017 04:41 PM
Re: You've got no love for the underdog/That's why you will not survive...
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 508197)
No, it was a bone for Comey to throw to Republican Senators. That is hardly a black swan event.
So Comey's playing ball with the GOP?

Hank Chinaski 06-09-2017 04:43 PM
Re: Maga
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 508193)
He played out a grand tragedy, worthy even of a grand opera (Nixon in China)
not to be a culture timmy, but Nixon In China was not a tragedy, other than thinking hil et al wrecked a great president, capable of opening the door to China, for nonsense.

Tyrone Slothrop 06-09-2017 05:15 PM
Re: You've got no love for the underdog/That's why you will not survive...
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508199)
So Comey's playing ball with the GOP?
Comey was a registered Republican for most of his career, IIRC and I think do. He certainly was throwing bones to Republican Senators last year -- that was the whole point of his Hamlet act about the Hillary email investigation. Why do you think he ever stopped?

BTW, the best comment I saw about his testimony yesterday was that the Republican Senators all accepted his testimony's truth and tried to explain why Trump hadn't done anything wrong, but Trump called him a liar -- and that this suggests that Trump will be in a world of trouble as things continue.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 06-09-2017 05:32 PM
Re: Maga
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 508200)
not to be a culture timmy, but Nixon In China was not a tragedy, other than thinking hil et al wrecked a great president, capable of opening the door to China, for nonsense.
A+ culture timmying! Better than anything Atticus has ever done.

I should have been clearer; Nixon was worthy of a grand opera, the opera itself was not a tragedy, it was part of the promise and grandness of Nixon that builds him up before that tragic fall. The Nixon administration played out a tragedy, a story of a once capable, bright and promising politician caught up in venality, deceit and corruption.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 06-09-2017 05:33 PM
Re: Hello
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 508181)
Why? Why are you asking him this question? What is the fucking point?

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Can anyone verify that Sebby is actually a lawyer?

sebastian_dangerfield 06-09-2017 05:42 PM
Re: Hello
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 508203)
Can anyone verify that Sebby is actually a lawyer?
I am still waiting for confirmation that you are not Richard Simmons in hiding.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 06-09-2017 06:21 PM
Re: Hello
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 508204)
I am still waiting for confirmation that you are not Richard Simmons in hiding.
I think you can get plenty of verification for that.


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