Originally Posted by Penske 2.0 (Post 430673)

This is an olde article and actually happened on Bush's watch, right? Certainly the Obama administration would not engage in such brainless and oppressive endeavours.

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 430675)

when i was a quasi-judicial official of the US Dept of commerce I became a union rep to gain actual litigation experience. our union and the PTO management submitted conflicting contract provisions to binding arbitration. the arb decided. PTO appealled. we took the position no appeal was available.

the K required the final k be printed for the rank and file. we said let's print it. PTO said, "well okay, but with the parts we are challenging in italics." we go "no, because your managers will always treat those like they aren't really in the K."

so we up and printed it, and then sued them for the cost- then they conter sued us because we had put their seal on the cover.

then i quit having anything to do with labor law:cool::o

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 430676)

i'm still waiting for the Justice Dept to prosecute an infringing use of the seal of the President (elect) that happened in 2008/2009 between election day and inaugural day.

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 430676)

i'm still waiting for the Justice Dept to prosecute an infringing use of the seal of the President (elect) that happened in 2008/2009 between election day and inaugural day.

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 430680)

No copyright in government works.

There is statutory authority for the presidential transition, and federal money to pay for it.

Originally Posted by Penske 2.0 (Post 430673)

This is an olde article and actually happened on Bush's watch, right? Certainly the Obama administration would not engage in such brainless and oppressive endeavours.

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 430680)

No copyright in government works.

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 430686)

Cite, please? (Seriously. I reached the opposite conclusion for non-federal works, as have many of m'colleagues.)

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 430686)

Cite, please? (Seriously. I reached the opposite conclusion for non-federal works, as have many of m'colleagues.)

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 430697)

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 430698)

I was surprised Hank didn't realize this. Apparently he treated his IP law education the same way he treated his con law education.

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 430703)

i didn't draft the complaint, nor read it. however, i assume the US patent and trademark is unlikely to have made a major gaffe about copyright law. I think it wasn't a compalint in copyright law, but something to do with authoirty.

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 430702)

Then I think your prior post was overbroad. "No copyright in federal government works." I thought you were implying there was some kind of common law of public intellectual property, and I had concluded their wasn't. Oakland can stop me from marketing "Oakland PD" hats the same way it can charge admission to the Colisseum when the Warriors are playing even though both are public property. And I can't steal Oakland's website and put it up elsewhere, etc. Yes?

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 430704)

But you were proposing that the gov't prosecute an infringing use of the Presidential seal, no?

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 430706)

infringing is a broad word. it would extend to the crime that his transition team di commit- or at least that one crime.