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sebastian_dangerfield 11-18-2016 11:04 AM

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Is someone else picking his cabinet? I don't understand how you separate his views from his actions. As you go on to say, there are other rewards he could give these people.
Pence is heavily involved. I hate Pence.

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Jeff Sessions was rejected for the federal bench by a GOP(!) Congress in the 1980s(!) for being racist. Why doesn't race appear on your list of reasons Sessions can't be AG?
It is. He's the worst person for prison reform, which is all about race.

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Not that yours are not valid objections too. They are. But I don't know how the very first thing that Sessions as AG brings to mind isn't, "this is going to be terrible for black people, who will face emboldened racist policing, escalated voter suppression, and discrimination unchecked by an effective Civil Rights Division."
Again, that's prison reform.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-18-2016 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 503960)
Couple of things...

First, O'Rourke voted for and endorsed Hillary

Second, I'm not apologizing for anything. But I will concede when I'm wrong about something. And while I still hold my assessment that Trump is himself a moderate, his cabinet sure as fuck isn't. He owes Sessions "big league" for backing him early, but man -- this motherfucker cannot be Atty. General. This is a wet kiss to the private prison industry, and sets up a civil war over marijuana legalization.

However, that's a civil war I welcome. Because the Feds aren't going to win it. And it's going to rip the GOP in half, pitting libertarian and socially-liberal traditional republicans against regressive authoritarian sorts.

This lazy fuck is pissing me off. He's clearly just doling out positions to back benchers who supported him. Everyone I know who's spent time with Trump (it's hard not to know someone who hasn't played golf with the guy) likes him, says he's a moderate, and advises this whole campaign was shtick. I still think he's what's been sold to me. But he's clearly also incredibly lazy, and he's too loyal. People like Sessions deserve favors, but not things like the Atty. General position. I agree -- this is just fucked up, and distressing.

You do realize that every blue state legalizing pot is going to soon discover that federal law is federal law, and the feds, probably in a whole bunch of recently acquired souped up military equipment, are going to soon be showing up at the dispensaries, rounding up the perps, locking the doors, and confiscating the goods? Here in Mass., they're already using national guard helicopters to ID pot plants in backyards under our liberal Republican governor.

But, I know, Hillary was a threat to your liberty. Liberty!

Adder 11-18-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 503972)
You do realize that every blue state legalizing pot is going to soon discover that federal law is federal law, and the feds, probably in a whole bunch of recently acquired souped up military equipment, are going to soon be showing up at the dispensaries, rounding up the perps, locking the doors, and confiscating the goods? Here in Mass., they're already using national guard helicopters to ID pot plants in backyards under our liberal Republican governor.

And the AG to be said he broke with the KKK after learning some of them smoked pot (probably it was a joke maybe??).

sebastian_dangerfield 11-18-2016 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 503972)
You do realize that every blue state legalizing pot is going to soon discover that federal law is federal law, and the feds, probably in a whole bunch of recently acquired souped up military equipment, are going to soon be showing up at the dispensaries, rounding up the perps, locking the doors, and confiscating the goods? Here in Mass., they're already using national guard helicopters to ID pot plants in backyards under our liberal Republican governor.

But, I know, Hillary was a threat to your liberty. Liberty!

You can't put the genie back in the bottle on weed. But Sessions is fucking horrible on justice reform, and he will hold that back.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 11-18-2016 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 503975)
You can't put the genie back in the bottle

You don't seem to get Trump, do you?

sebastian_dangerfield 11-18-2016 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 503977)
You don't seem to get Trump, do you?

I get vices.

Tyrone Slothrop 11-18-2016 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 503959)
RESOLVED: That the Politics Board be and hereby is renamed the Board of Funk,

Apropos of which, I saw Anthony Bourdain speak last night. Someone asked what he would have liked to do with his life if he had it to do over again and could do something different, and he said he would want to be the bassist for Parliament-Funkadelic.

Tyrone Slothrop 11-18-2016 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 503960)
Everyone I know who's spent time with Trump (it's hard not to know someone who hasn't played golf with the guy) likes him, says he's a moderate, and advises this whole campaign was shtick.

It seems like it's a big mistake to assume he acts primarily out of any kind of ideology.

Tyrone Slothrop 11-18-2016 02:42 PM

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On fake news, confirmation bias is a hell of a drug.

Hank Chinaski 11-18-2016 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 503980)
Apropos of which, I saw Anthony Bourdain speak last night. Someone asked what he would have liked to do with his life if he had it to do over again and could do something different, and he said he would want to be the bassist for Parliament-Funkadelic.

That's like me saying "I'd like to be Anthony Bourdain," or Penske saying "I'd like to be Hank," it presupposes a talent level that is almost certainly lacking.

Pretty Little Flower 11-18-2016 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 503980)
Apropos of which, I saw Anthony Bourdain speak last night. Someone asked what he would have liked to do with his life if he had it to do over again and could do something different, and he said he would want to be the bassist for Parliament-Funkadelic.

Are you fucking kidding me? Because I invented that! I have people who will swear that as early as the mid-90s, if asked what my alternate career would be, I would say "Bootsy Collins."

Pretty Little Flower 11-18-2016 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 503984)
That's like me saying "I'd like to be Anthony Bourdain," or Penske saying "I'd like to be Hank," it presupposes a talent level that is almost lacking.

True, but so what? What is your alternate career? Some other soul-sucking profession that requires good writing and analytical skills and an attention to detail?

Hank Chinaski 11-18-2016 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 503986)
True, but so what? What is your alternate career? Some other soul-sucking profession that requires good writing and analytical skills and an attention to detail?

I'm angling to get the Donald to make me Commissioner of Patents!

Tyrone Slothrop 11-18-2016 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 503984)
That's like me saying "I'd like to be Anthony Bourdain," or Penske saying "I'd like to be Hank," it presupposes a talent level that is almost certainly lacking.

Yes, he was very clear about that.

Tyrone Slothrop 11-18-2016 05:50 PM

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But the big question is, what will Attorney General Sessions do to make sure that State Department employees don't misuse their email?


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