hey hey
 

Arrrrggggghhhh.

I fell asleep with three minutes remaining. The OM didn't have the heart to wake me, and I had to beg him for the info this morning. :(

Even(Spurs in 6)Odds

AI/ Mr. Personality
 

While you were watching her on t.v., she showed up at the outdoor bar I was patronizing. She looked decidedly unfashionable. Jean jacket with a teal sweater tied around her thick neck (don't get me started on sweaters tied around the neck -- everyone who does this looks 100% stupid, like they don't know what a sweater is for or they're trying too hard) and too much makeup. She's huge with broad shoulders. She looks like a man, baby. I can understand why people may be scared of her.

TM

AI/ Mr. Personality
 

Dont tell me you moved to CT?

AI/ Mr. Personality
 

Moved? I've never left. My neighborhood is just too wealthy (and that's old money, missy) to let in the likes of you.

Thurgreed(she was in NYC, where I believe she owns at least one brownstone)Marshall

AI/ Mr. Personality
 

I saw someone wearing a white shirt with a red sweater tied around her neck. She was speaking at something. And as I watched her speak, I thought to myself, why in the hell are you wearing a red sweater tied around your neck? Get a friggen shawl if you are cold. Or wear the sweater. It isn't a scarf for god's sake.

Learn how to accessorize you know?

I was not sure what I thought of the movie. I was talking on the phone during some of it, and working during the rest of it. (My Mom called upset because her TV blocked out during AI and she missed the last 5 minutes and she HAD TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. MY mom could post on this board and fit in very well I think.)

But over all, it was ok. Made me chuckle a few times. I am not really sure how I was supposed to feel about her after it. I didn't see her as that bad a person, but she certainly was shown to suffer from a lack of ethics and self control. Of course, I have never thought of her as that bad a person. I figured anyone who would risk a fortune over a couple, what thousand/hundred grand, has to have some real control problems.

But I also found it impressive how much she managed to do for herself, assuming the movie is factually correct. The time line was a bit confusing, it jumped around a bit, there were flashbacks and then it would move forward and then more flashbacks. And since I was only half paying attention, and they never told you what year it was, I had a little trouble figuring out when things were supposed to have happened. I was trying to remember for example how famous I recalled her being when she got the KMart deal. Cause I thought she was already pretty well known by that time, but the suggestion was not so much.

I guess I found it a little confusing in terms of how they structured it. Maybe I should have paid more attention. Or maybe it was just poorly written. I don't know.

stake, garlic, etc.
 

I can only assume that Bilmore will be hosting a huge Buffy finale party this evening.

In the kayak.

aV

spam revenge is sweet
 

you know, if the hackers need funding to continue their worthy crusade, I'll be happy to pitch in.

kayak, Ground Force etc.
 

My dad sent me a long email about his kayak adventures yesterday. It was disturbing because Bilmore kept popping into my mind when I read it.

On other sort of FB topics that my dad brought up - Ground Force did a relative's garden and my relative was excited to meet Charlie (the chick who goes braless). Apparently she is quite a sex symbol in Britain. I have to ask why - are there so few attractive people in England that she is a sex symbol? She seems like she has a good sense of humor, and isn't butt ugly, but apart from the fact that she doesn't wear a bra, she's not really sexy - or maybe I am missing something.

East coast Mexican
 

My general rule of thumb is to avoid looking for Mexican food north of the Mason-Dixon and east of the Mississippi. Saves me from a lot of heart ache. And heartburn.

Reality TV, FB style
 

In the name of amusing you all with my own humble Bachelorette show, thought I'd tell you about the date I went on last night.

The guy presented himself as a very successful, brilliant entrepreneur, picked a wonderful, romantic restaurant, and expressed a love of the little black dress look. So I went with it and showed up wearing one that displayed the robustness of my puppies (with apologies to RP).

The fact that he was shorter and heavier than he'd led me to believe was disappointing but not a deal breaker. The fact that he knew about the Rule Against Perpetuities but almost nothing about wine did not exactly turn me on, but it was okay. No, dear FBers, it was when he shoveled his food (corn) with his fingers and grabbed the little potato chip garnishes off my plate that I'd had it. And I should have known that if I'd recoiled from his table manners that I'd also recoil from his attempts to kiss me.

Fortunately, I had dinner with someone on Friday night whom I really liked and will definitely see again.

Reality TV, FB style
 

Its amazing. You should throw something in your ad about the improtance of proper table manners and honesty. Perhaps cite this guy as an example? GLad its gong well. Keep the stories coming- at least I know they aint scripted and you arent fame whoring.

Reality TV, FB style
 

I think everyone will agree that no apology is necessary.

AI: Ruben & Clay
 

This is from today's Boston Globe.

http://a1636.g.akamai.net/7/1636/797...ol_faceoff.gif

AI: Ruben & Clay
 

I am now wondering why Ruben would be favored to win given that Clay is "teenybopper" favorite and Ruben is "judge "favorite? This is a populartiy contest not a talent contest and the teenyboppers have more dialing power than judges.

Reality TV FB style
 

What is it with people and their table manners? My theory is that when the hippies grew up, they refused to teach their children table manners. But my husband's mother failed to teach him certain "rules" that it has become my duty to teach him. He's a chronic double-dipper (don't get me started). I have to watch him like a hawk.
Suffice it to say that you made the right decision to avoid this guy - if his table manners are ghastly, no telling what he's like in the sack. :drool:

Unrelated question - why do Clay's feet look so incredibly large? Is it the shoes?
:boots:

Reality TV FB style
 

You married this guy?


http://www.leedberg.com/seinfeld/george/george.jpg

Reality TV FB style
 

This guy claimed to have grown up in a privileged background, including, for example prep school, so I don't think he has the hippie excuse.

So how did your husband manage to win your heart nonetheless with his double-dipping?

AI: Ruben & Clay
 

Last year, Kelly was the judge's favorite and Justin was the teenybopper pick.

I voted in last year's contest to help the better singer win, and trump the dialing power of the teenyboppers. This year, it is anybody's game, assuming they both sing up to their ability on tonight's show. I recall Seacrest saying that there was only 2% separating #1 from #2, if that holds true, then the contest will truly be down to the wire.

Last year, Kelly smoked Justin in the finals, but they didn't release the actual figures. (Probably because they were making them up . . .)

E/O

Job, Odd Job
 

Thanks for the info. I read the reviews of the Horseclan series and it seems to track with my recollection (from about 20 years ago). Man. I'm getting old.

Double Dipping
 

Believe it or not, we were never in a situation where double dipping ever came up. He usually avoids dips due to multiple food allergies and you just never know what people will put in dips. So I was in the dark until after the vows - needless to say, I blame his mother (not a hippie). But a lot of my friends who went to prep school had parents who were of the hippie culture - they wanted "better things" for their kids. I'm pretty sure that table manners were not taught in prep school as these people are some of the worst offenders. I wouldn't know - I went to public school. But they did teach us weird "etiquette" in the sorority. Some of the "old school" stuff was hysterical. There were manuals from the 50's where you couldn't leave the sorority without a girdle - and the actually had girdle checks at the door.
:mr:

Layering ...
 

OK, I wear sweaters about the neck with some frequency, though I don't do it by way of accessorization (I accessorize my neck with scarves and pearls, like a sane person). I wear them around my neck not because I am cold but because I am warm. I get cold a lot, and so wear a lot of sweaters and cardigans, and when I am not cold they are too warm, so I remove them and need someplace to put them. I refuse to wrap the damn things about my waist so as to emphasize the size of my ass, or wad them up into a handbag, which seem to be the other options, so about the neck they hang. (Or I wear them over my shoulders, all the better to impersonate a librarian, but this doesn't strike me as a superior look.)

It's called layering people. The benefits are you can take stuff on and off to regulate temperature. The side effect is you need something to do with the stuff you remove.

BR(OK, I acknowledge that anyone doing this as a "fashion statement" just looks like an idiot)C

AI: Ruben & Clay
 

I think most of the Kim L. voters will switch to Ruben, and it won't really be all that close.

tm
redialing with two phones for Ruuuuuuuben!

Layering ...
 

Don't you ever put your hair up and don glasses just so you can do the librarian unleashed thing for the Mr.?

What I mean is, doesn't everybody do this?

?

AI: Ruben & Clay
 

The Boston Globe story had one flaw. Tara Lipinski is not an "unexpected supporter" of Clay. In fact, she's exactly who I would expect to be a Clay supporter. Now if Quentin Tarantino was achin' for Clay, that would be a surprise.

Clay's feet look big because they are way turned out. Ever notice notice he walks? Totally duck-toed.

Bizarre etiquette rules poll
 

I think table manners are pretty uniformly bad these days. I think my manners are abominable - too many years eating lunch at my desk and I'm a barbarian. Though I was taught to set a table (incorrectly, I should note) in home ec in my public school, only observation & extracurricular reading taught me how to execute the necessary maneouvers.

Double dipping is pretty gross - you get two dips max, the first one and then maybe a second if you flip the chip around and hold it by the chewed end while dipping the clean one. And that only among consenting adults who can trust that you washed your hands.

Please, please, please tell us some more of the weird sorority etiquette! My mother's had a "3rd floor" rule, which was that, if a man attempted to force his attentions on you, if you were on the 3rd floor or below you were supposed to jump out the window, because, on some warped calculus, the risk of death at that height was considered better than the risk of dishonor, but at a higher floor the death rate cancelled out the virginity benefits.

Poll: what is the weirdest supposed "etiquette" rule you've ever heard pronounced? Aside from the above, it would be an edict from some chick who came to do some lecture on "business manners," who proclaimed a bunch of odd stuff, but one was that at a restaurant no one was allowed to nibble bread or drink anything until the full meal order had been taken. ?WTF? That stuff is only on the table to enable people to survive the slow service. Then again, this chick also said it was "rude" to have a regional accent (she said in her nasal Yankee honk), so no one paid any attention anyway.

Layering ...
 

Yes, but for that I usually wear a really small fitted tweed jacket, not a sweater. The sweater set I reserve for "uptight UES matron who needs to be taught a lesson by the footman."

An unfortunate development
 

I was watching MTV2 this morning.

A commercial came on for conditioner.

The music in the commercial:
"Diamonds and Guns" - The Transplants.

If ever I thought a band was unlikely to
sell hair product, it was them. Sigh.
I tell myself that someone else must
control the rights. Sad.

I haven't been to ESPN.com yet today. Has
any team ever hit 49 free throws in a row in
an NBA playoff game? Unbelievable.
Brent Musberger was waxing Musbergerian
about the Don Nelson coaching performance.
I only heard the last minute on the radio, so I
don't know if Nelson really did that great a job or
not.

Sens in 7.
Str8

Layering ...
 

How is it that you always know the correct thing to do? I have been conflating the librarian and the matron all these years and my man was too much of a dear to point out my error. He's a keeper!

Bizarre etiquette rules poll
 

I don't think our sorority etiquette rules were weird; it was just that we hadn't heard of some of them before. For example, at chapter meetings we could not cross our legs because it wasn't ladylike. That was the first time I had heard that.

We did not need a third floor rule because no men were allowed above the first floor at the sorority house. It was a good rule because it meant we could run around upstair in our undies.

Bizarre Etiquette Rules Poll
 

That doesn't sound right. Most sororities will not allow a man above the first floor. In my house, men were only allowed in the "formal living room" not the TV room or the dining room. Ever. Also, no alcohol. That's what frats are for. So, weird etiquette:
Many weird smoking rules - it was PC to smoke in those days but - NO lighting the cigarette without holding it between two fingers (in other words don't let it hang out of your mouth while you light). Never hold a cigarette in your mouth - you must hold it between your fingers at all times. Otherwise it makes you look cheap. No gum, ever (I think that rule should hold now - I hate gum chewers).

The girdle check was my favorite. There was also a brassier check - you had to wear yours at all times.

Bizarre etiquette rules poll
 

And give each other spankings when you were naughty. Right? Right?

Bizarre Etiquette Rules Poll
 

Jesus, how old are you? What century were you in a sorority? Are they still like this? I could never be in a sorority even if I wanted to bc I am a drunken braless man upstairs tramp with the cigarette hanging out of my mouth when my hands are otherwise engaged. I thought cheapness came from the inside.

Bizarre etiquette rules poll
 

Not really a rule of etiquette - more like a custom - but whatever. My sister married into an East African culture that has a tradition of large weddings (i.e. the whole community attends). Her husband is well-known in the community so they had about 2000 guests. Apparently there is an custom in this culture that the bridesmaids have to serve the wedding cake to all the guests. So I had to deliver about 1000 pieces of cake that day. I felt like Sisyphus.

(I think the "custom" is bullshit - I think they all just wanted to laugh at the silly white girl running her ass off)

Bizarre Etiquette Rules Poll
 

If you read back a page - these bizarre rules came up during intiation. We were forced to read the manual from the 50's as a sign of how "lenient" the rules are now. Because most of us thought that "no guys" "no alcohol" rules were quite imposing. As I recall, there was also a "leg check" where they would make sure you were wearing hose and had shaved.
Hey looking cheap only came into vogue during the XTina years.

Speaking of Etiquette
 

When you get on the elevator - let's say there are 2 people in the elevator - is it first one in, first one out? Or first in, last out? I know if it's crowded, it's last in, first out - but what if it's not crowded?
And another thing - when you step off the escalator - DON'T STOP - there are people behind you who can't stop. This is just a warning - that if I have to step around you or push you out of the way, I will.

Speaking of Etiquette
 

Typically, people get off at their floor, regardless of when they got in the elevator.

Sheesh.

Bizarre etiquette rules poll
 

This reminds me of a girl who was telling me about the upstairs of her sorority and I said, "You all strip down to your panties and have tickle fights, right? AND DON'T RUIN THE FANTASY BY SAYING NO!" And she responded w/out blinking, "More like nipple fights", as she shook her chest back and forth.

I almost fainted.

Nipple fights.

Layering ...
 

Don't try to pass off your crappy fashion sense under the guise of utility.

;)

Bizarre etiquette rules poll
 

Damn. Why wasn't I in a sorority?

Yet another example of opportunity lost. *sigh*

Wait a minute. What the hell is a nipple fight?

Bizarre etiquette rules poll
 

I have no idea but it sounds wonderful.

Actually, I have an idea: Two girls nipple to nipple. Doesn't really sounds like a fight, but damn if I was going to get into a argument about semantics.