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Anne Elk 05-21-2003 10:21 AM

Movie for AI Fans (are they a Cult?)
 
All you AI fans, mark June 13th on your calendar, you have a movie to see.

From Justin to Kelly

Did you just call me Coltrane? 05-21-2003 10:22 AM

Top Cult Movies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
With this definition, I would go for films that I loved that werent in the movie theaters for more than a minute, probably bc they didnt have budgets or were panned by critics, and that yet, I can never get at a video store bc they are always out. Waiting for GUffman is an obvious example. I had to go to like ten video stores over a couple of years before I could get this video. Big Lebowski is another excellent example. And Office Space.

I actually saw Lebowski in the theatre. You mentioned awhile back that John Goodman should have won an Oscar. I agree. I'm serious.

Although I don't think it's quite a cult movie, it's in my top 5 of all time...

3000 years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax...You're goddamn right I'm living in the past!

ABBAKiss 05-21-2003 10:26 AM

AI
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
I still have that fucking "proud to be an american" going through my head from the five minutes of the Monday show I saw. Images of Josh singing about his wife and his children . .. . make it stop.
I actually met Mr. Greenwood in highschool when my dance squad danced the Liberty Bowl. Part of our routine included forming a pom-pom American flag by holding our arms over our head and shaking left-right-higher lower for the duration of the song, which he performed. I was proud to be an American, but DAMN did my arms hurt and I couldn't listen to that song for a long time afterword.

paigowprincess 05-21-2003 10:43 AM

Top Cult Movies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I actually saw Lebowski in the theatre. You mentioned awhile back that John Goodman should have won an Oscar. I agree. I'm serious.

Although I don't think it's quite a cult movie, it's in my top 5 of all time...

3000 years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax...You're goddamn right I'm living in the past!
chai keyboard. I think that is my favorite movie line of all time. though "looking good lewis, feeling good todd" is up there and much of Bill Lumberg's lines are also. and owen wilson's compelete dialogue from Meet the Parents (and De Niro. "If we hit the ball, do you think you could spike it, Fokker?" "I'd have to be pretty high. " "I bet you would, Panama Red". and i too was serious that goodman deserved the oscar.

SlaveNoMore 05-21-2003 10:53 AM

Coen Brothers
 
As both "Lebowski" and "The Man who Wasn't There" were both mentioned this morning, I may as well mention [again] that both "Barton Fink" and "Miller's Crossing" were finally released on DVD yesterday.

Am I the only person who thinks Fargo is their WORST film?

not7yS

evenodds 05-21-2003 10:56 AM

Coen Brothers
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Am I the only person who thinks Fargo is their WORST film?
Yes. Have you seen Blood Simple recently?

greatwhitenorthchick 05-21-2003 10:59 AM

Coen Brothers
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore

Am I the only person who thinks Fargo is their WORST film?

not7yS
Isn't Hudsucker Proxy a Coen Bros film? I think that is their worst. I think Fargo, while not great, and not as good as say, Blood Simple (as e/o points out) had its moments. I think I am partial to movies with lots of snow though.

Edited to say that I just realized E/O thought it was bad, so I am a big dummy

robustpuppy 05-21-2003 11:14 AM

Bizarre etiquette rules poll
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Bob
Apropos of nothing, I have to say that many of your recent posts have been both (a) very amusing, and (2) Not Pedantic. Keep up the good work.

Not (oh, and thanks to RP for appreciating the latest Nob Bob Avatar) Bob
Atticus, Not Bob took the words right out of my keyboard.

Not Bob, Nob Bob is a cute nickname for yourself. It sounds like a sport, or a game.:D

SlaveNoMore 05-21-2003 11:32 AM

Coen Brothers
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Yes. Have you seen Blood Simple recently?
Yeah. I own it. It's great. Watched it two weeks ago as a matter of fact.

Hudsucker Proxy is phenomenal if you watch it as the Frank Capra homage that it was meant to be.

not7yS

kafka_esquire 05-21-2003 11:37 AM

Anybody hear the latest Manson CD?
 
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/4359/

[spree: Charles, not Marilyn]

NotFromHere 05-21-2003 11:51 AM

AI finale
 
I was a little disappointed last night. I really didn't care for any of the song choices - although the last 2 were OK. I would really have liked to hear Ruben sing some Marvin Gaye.
I think last night's show was style over talent. I don't know why some of you people hate Clay so much - he is so much more talented than Justin Guarini ever was. And while I love Ruben, I hated his song choices last night ( not that I liked Clay's either) and he has pitch problems occasionally. At least Clay (if you don't have to watch him) is solid with his pitch. And they've really done a good job with his eyebrows which were out of control when he first came to the show and for the first few weeks.
I also tried (like the loser that I am) to dial in last night, until midnight and NEVER got through. I also tried on my ATT cell phone with no luck. Well, I think tonight is going to be Fox's biggest night ever - but 2 hours? Yawn. :confused:

ABBAKiss 05-21-2003 11:56 AM

AI finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Well, I think tonight is going to be Fox's biggest night ever - but 2 hours? Yawn. :confused:
Does anyone know the format for tonight's show? Obviously, I only HAVE to tune in for the last ten minutes or so, but I missed last night's show because I was kayaking, and I plan to kayak tonight also up until the very moment in which watching American Idol becomes more fulfilling.

NotFromHere 05-21-2003 12:04 PM

AI finale
 
Your recap of tonight's show...
Well last year there was a lot of "group singing" as I recall, and it was really annoying.
I'm sure there will be yet another celebrity appearance (hopefully NOT Paul Anka or Burt Bacharach again).
Seacrest asked the audience to vote for their favorite "video" so I'm sure we'll see Ruben dressed up like a pimp again (Heeey, must be the monaaay).
They'll sing a song from last night (again) and we'll probably have to suffer through yet another rendition of "Proud to be a freakin American."
And then we'll have to see Kelly and Justin pushing their new stoopid movie "From big hair to fat ass" and then if you're not totally drunk by then and passed out on the sofa, you'll see this year's winner. :P

SlaveNoMore 05-21-2003 12:05 PM

24 finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
but I missed last night's show because I was kayaking, and I plan to kayak tonight also up until the very moment in which watching American Idol becomes more fulfilling.
Hanging with the Hobbit, huh?

More importantly - how friggin cool was the ending of "24"? No puppydog and ice cream ending on that show. Jesus.

not7yS

notcasesensitive 05-21-2003 12:08 PM

AI finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
Does anyone know the format for tonight's show? Obviously, I only HAVE to tune in for the last ten minutes or so, but I missed last night's show because I was kayaking, and I plan to kayak tonight also up until the very moment in which watching American Idol becomes more fulfilling.
My guess would be some Bee Gees medley, followed by some pretaped costume-skit schtick, followed by a recap of all the performers (including Josh singing Proud To Be An American), followed by meaningless banter among the judges, followed by another medley of some sort, followed, in the last 2 minutes, with the "big announcement" of which one of the finalists will get the official title (since they will both be all over the media for their full 15 minutes anyway and the actual title appears to be meaningless).

n(but I hate the show)cs

kafka_esquire 05-21-2003 12:08 PM

AIIIIIIIII finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
Does anyone know the format for tonight's show? Obviously, I only HAVE to tune in for the last ten minutes or so, but I missed last night's show because I was kayaking, and I plan to kayak tonight also up until the very moment in which watching American Idol becomes more fulfilling.
I admit that I laughed out loud at that post, but, in the spirit of Bilmore, Puns, Paigow, I'll instead say that I was Chai Yakking.

Atticus Grinch 05-21-2003 12:10 PM

Book/CD/DVD Club Suggestions
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Jack Manfred
Books
Partly Cloudy Patriot, David Sedaris
Sarah Vowell would probably quibble with that.

robustpuppy 05-21-2003 12:11 PM

24 finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Hanging with the Hobbit, huh?

More importantly - how friggin cool was the ending of "24"? No puppydog and ice cream ending on that show. Jesus.

not7yS
It totally sucked. I'm surprised they didn't have Carrie and Michelle hug at the end and say "no hard feelings."

Nina should come back and kill some more people with credit card fragments.

lawyer_princess 05-21-2003 12:12 PM

AI finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
I was a little disappointed last night. I really didn't care for any of the song choices - although the last 2 were OK. I would really have liked to hear Ruben sing some Marvin Gaye.
I think last night's show was style over talent. I don't know why some of you people hate Clay so much - he is so much more talented than Justin Guarini ever was. And while I love Ruben, I hated his song choices last night ( not that I liked Clay's either) and he has pitch problems occasionally. At least Clay (if you don't have to watch him) is solid with his pitch. And they've really done a good job with his eyebrows which were out of control when he first came to the show and for the first few weeks.
I also tried (like the loser that I am) to dial in last night, until midnight and NEVER got through. I also tried on my ATT cell phone with no luck. Well, I think tonight is going to be Fox's biggest night ever - but 2 hours? Yawn. :confused:
I agree, Clay sounded great last night. Ruben's performances were problematic for two reasons. One, except for about 15 seconds of one song, he showed little range of emotion. Most of the time he gives us the same smiley even-keeled Ruben. It's nice, but became uninteresting by the fourth or fifth week of the competition. Second, his vibrato goes sharp. This bugs the hell out of me.

I voted last night for the fist time. I didn't count how many times I hit redial, maybe five or six. No trouble getting through at 10:40, which is when I finished watching the tape (of course, I was watching Buffy at 8).

evenodds 05-21-2003 12:12 PM

24 finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
More importantly - how friggin cool was the ending of "24"? No puppydog and ice cream ending on that show. Jesus.
I love love love that show.

The ending was flawless.

Except people should have been in cuffs heading to prison for treason.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-21-2003 12:14 PM

AI finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I plan to kayak tonight also up until the very moment in which watching American Idol becomes more fulfilling.
I think you should just remain on the water all night.

That said, will the announcement come right at the end? Can't we have a crying-limo ride a la Bachelor? Could they announce say with 15 minutes to go, and then have "We are the Champions" medley.

Besides, what does it matter even if you see the last 10 minutes. The precise moment will be replayed on your Fox news channel later tonight.

lawyer_princess 05-21-2003 12:21 PM

24 finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
It totally sucked. I'm surprised they didn't have Carrie and Michelle hug at the end and say "no hard feelings."

Nina should come back and kill some more people with credit card fragments.
Most of the episode was anticlimactic. The scene at the stadium, Marie's lame threat, the VP/Pres reversal, Palmer's forgiveness, Mike's termination, etc. were all kind of rote. Even the very last scene was totally predictable. The only moment I really loved was when Kim held Jack's hand and he had this little smile on his face. It was very subtle and said so much. I think Kiefer should win an Emmy.

robustpuppy 05-21-2003 12:27 PM

24 finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lawyer_princess
Most of the episode was anticlimactic. The scene at the stadium, Marie's lame threat, the VP/Pres reversal, Palmer's forgiveness, Mike's termination, etc. were all kind of rote. Even the very last scene was totally predictable. The only moment I really loved was when Kim held Jack's hand and he had this little smile on his face. It was very subtle and said so much. I think Kiefer should win an Emmy.
Actually, I was hoping that when Jack held out his hand and said "K" that he would finish by saying "Kate."

This would be slightly absurd and unsentimental. Besides, Jack really deserves to get laid.

robustpuppy 05-21-2003 12:28 PM

24 finale
 
Deleted double post. e/o

ThurgreedMarshall 05-21-2003 12:29 PM

AI finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
Does anyone know the format for tonight's show? Obviously, I only HAVE to tune in for the last ten minutes or so, but I missed last night's show because I was kayaking, and I plan to kayak tonight also up until the very moment in which watching American Idol becomes more fulfilling.
POTMY*. Although I'd like to think you were making fun at bilmore, the post works so much better if I'm your target.

TM











* I reserve the right to put "motherfuckin" in any abbreviation I like, NTTAMWWT.

Atticus Grinch 05-21-2003 12:31 PM

No more buffy
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
So, it's over.
I'm rather pleased with how it ended. Left the spin-off possibilities wide open. Plus, ya gotta love the nod to Trogdor the Burninator. Well, I gotta.

SPOILER BELOW: Highlight faded text to read more easily






Joss told Slate that they didn't want to choose which characters to spin off too soon or based solely on which actors had empty dancecards. Giving every potential slayer the power is actually a pretty cool idea for a high-budget spin off. Xander, Willow and/or (ick) Dawn and Andrew can travel the globe, finding them all in exotic places and gathering them unto a new, hipper Watcher's Council. I wonder whether they'll modify the Angel mythology to accomodate this. Of course, I would have been happier if Anya had lived to be with them, 'cause Andrew is a poor substitute. Or they could just have a spin-off in which Faith takes another slice of Principal Wood's schnitzengruben.

greatwhitenorthchick 05-21-2003 12:32 PM

24 finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lawyer_princess
I think Kiefer should win an Emmy.

Leaving aside his acting ability, Kiefer has become very hot. When he was younger (i.e. jilted-by-Julia Roberts days) he was never this attractive. Maybe it is the whole "weary man of action" thing he has going on these days.

evenodds 05-21-2003 12:32 PM

AI finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
POTMY*. Although I'd like to think you were making fun at bilmore, the post works so much better if I'm your target.
Does it still work as POTMfY if she is sincere?

ThurgreedMarshall 05-21-2003 12:34 PM

AI finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Does it still work as POTMfY if she is sincere?
Whoa. You just totally blew my mind.

Thurgreed(you're like, deep)Marshall

lawyer_princess 05-21-2003 12:36 PM

24 finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Leaving aside his acting ability, Kiefer has become very hot. When he was younger (i.e. jilted-by-Julia Roberts days) he was never this attractive. Maybe it is the whole "weary man of action" thing he has going on these days.
That's it exactly. Kiefer is a fucking MAN.

fufu 05-21-2003 12:41 PM

No more buffy
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I'm rather pleased with how it ended. Left the spin-off possibilities wide open. Plus, ya gotta love the nod to Trogdor the Burninator. Well, I gotta.

SPOILER










Can someone tell me how Spike is going to be able to move over to Angel given the events of last night.

All hail Trogdor the Burninator.

NotFromHere 05-21-2003 12:42 PM

Annika and the Hype
 
Annika says... “When I accepted the invitation, I must have been very naive,” Sorenstam said, looking out at some 300 people at her news conference. “I’m doing this to test myself, and I didn’t think everybody else wanted to test me at the same time.”

And... “I like to compare myself maybe with a mountain climber,” she said. “This will be Mount Everest for me, and I believe I have practiced for this for years. I feel like I have nothing to lose. Nobody expects anything from me.” I think she's wrong here - if no one expected anything, no one would care that she's there.

And this is my favorite... “It’s funny. Suddenly, everybody is an expert on my game and how I think,” she said. “And some of them have never seen me play.”

When I saw the interview last night - she seems genuinely surprised at the Total Amount of Attention she is getting. I think she expected a circus, but not the Sigfried and Roy/Michael Jackson levels of attention.

And putting her with a couple of rookies who seem to like her was great. Wilson wore a “Go Annika” button that is being sold for $3 in the pro shop at Colonial, although he won’t wear it when the tournament starts. He has watched Sorenstam play, and has no qualms with her spot in the field, or his place in her group.
“It’s exciting; it’s history,” he said. “And it’s a privilege to be part of it.” At least he knows he's part of "her" group.

str8outavannuys 05-21-2003 12:45 PM

Outdated Humor
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Connect_the_Dots
"In addition to McDermott and Boyle, the departures include original cast members Kelli Williams and Lisa Gay Hamilton. Marla Sokoloff, who joined "Practice" during its second season, and Chyler Leigh, who signed on this season, also are gone."

Umm. Isn't he the focus of the show and isn't she is like the anorexic foil? This is like Ally McBeal without Ally and Fish and Biscuit etc. Not that I like the Practice, but this seems like a stupid(er than normal) idea. I have always hated the Practice because 1) they win about every criminal case 2) almost all their clients are innocent 3) their lawfirm sucks. I mean, it seriously sucks. There is a shouting match in every episode. Who the hell would want to work there. And why is everyone, including the secretary, an equity partner?
ABC told David Kelley that it would either be cancelled, or renewed at half the per-episode fee it was earning this year. When they chose renewal, Kelley decided to give ABC "the show they were paying for, and nothing more," or words to that effect.

The problem is that ABC is a distant fourth in the ratings and there's not enough money to go around. I expect Practice to get cancelled midseason next year. They didn't help matters by moving it from Sunday to Monday this year (though arguably it was a dying show anyway).

More proof that ABC is being run by a bunch of Chunderheads.

Str("My Peanuts are fresh when you open the sack")8

str8outavannuys 05-21-2003 12:51 PM

AI finale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
Does anyone know the format for tonight's show? Obviously, I only HAVE to tune in for the last ten minutes or so, but I missed last night's show because I was kayaking, and I plan to kayak tonight also up until the very moment in which watching American Idol becomes more fulfilling.
Clearly Abba took microeconomics as as young-Abba. Or else she has unwittingly demonstrated an important principle therefrom.

str8(drawing marginal revenue/marginal cost schedules in my sleep)8

lawyer_princess 05-21-2003 12:53 PM

No more buffy
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by fufu
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I'm rather pleased with how it ended. Left the spin-off possibilities wide open. Plus, ya gotta love the nod to Trogdor the Burninator.
Did you notice the comment about the hellmouth in Cleveland? There was an episode where we first meet Anya where Cordelia wishes Buffy had never come to Sunnydale. In that alternate reality Buffy was in Cleveland. I am a total dork for remembering this.

paigowprincess 05-21-2003 12:53 PM

Coen Brothers
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Yeah. I own it. It's great. Watched it two weeks ago as a matter of fact.

Hudsucker Proxy is phenomenal if you watch it as the Frank Capra homage that it was meant to be.

not7yS
For me the wost Coen movie is O Brother. Strangely, this seems to be the COen film loved by non Coen fans and not loved by Coen fans. Maybe I missed something here, but I did not dig it. Perhals Slave, who missed his calling as a professor of film can enlighten me? Or maybe he thought it was not so good as well since he is a fan.

Replaced_Texan 05-21-2003 12:55 PM

No more buffy
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by fufu
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I'm rather pleased with how it ended. Left the spin-off possibilities wide open. Plus, ya gotta love the nod to Trogdor the Burninator. Well, I gotta.

SPOILER










Can someone tell me how Spike is going to be able to move over to Angel given the events of last night.

All hail Trogdor the Burninator.

I thought that given the season, it was a very well done episode. Any television show that ends with a rejection of the patriarchical paradigm and can make me laugh and cry at the same time does a good job.

I have lots of thoughts on the episode, but they're posted elsewhere.

SPOILER























Lots of theories. The most prelavent out there right now is that the whole Sanshu prophecy about the vamprie with a soul earning redemption and becoming human applies to Spike, not Angel. Certainly all of the relevant points point to Spike, especially the playing a major role in the Apocolypse and their not being sure which side he'd be on.

Also, someone mentioned that Spike's dream from last night "drowning in shoes" could be a reference to LA. In the very first episode of the series, Cordelia said something about being envious of Buffy for living in LA and being so close to that many shoes. Could be that he comes back to take on the role that Cordelia abandoned, since presumably he has it good with the Powers that Be these days.

He may not be a vampire with a soul. He may be like Lilah. Maybe he had a contract with W&H back in the day, though he strikes me as a "doesn't play well with others" type.

NotFromHere 05-21-2003 12:56 PM

The Practice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Connect_the_Dots
There is a shouting match in every episode. Who the hell would want to work there. And why is everyone, including the secretary, an equity partner?
Everyone except for Jimmy - who is the only guy not on the list of people leaving the show. So who's left in the office? Jimmy and Eugene? And who is Chyler Leigh? Is she the one who went to Harvard or is she the one who was on "The Girls Club?"

evenodds 05-21-2003 12:59 PM

Coen Brothers
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
For me the wost Coen movie is O Brother. Strangely, this seems to be the COen film loved by non Coen fans and not loved by Coen fans. Maybe I missed something here, but I did not dig it. Perhals Slave, who missed his calling as a professor of film can enlighten me? Or maybe he thought it was not so good as well since he is a fan.
What I like about Coen Bros. movies is that, at their best, each of them work as a film and as an intellectual exercise.

O Brother certainly fit within that tradition in ways Fargo did not.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 05-21-2003 01:02 PM

The Practice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Everyone except for Jimmy - who is the only guy not on the list of people leaving the show. So who's left in the office? Jimmy and Eugene? And who is Chyler Leigh? Is she the one who went to Harvard or is she the one who was on "The Girls Club?"
Chyler was in Girls Club, but also was Lindsey's assistant in her other office. She had some weird psychosis, but then won a summary judgment ruling and quickly obtained a big cash settlement.

Jimmy, Eugene, Cammryn Mannheim. And the blonde Harvard girl.

The coup de grace was switching to monday. It will be on Sunday again this Fall. Kelley's problem is that it's a character-driven show, unlike law and order, so switching the players a lot won't really help things.

But who cares? Alias, and Jennifer Garner, is still smokin'


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