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Sidd Finch 12-29-2006 12:01 PM

Saddam Poll
 
When will he be executed?


What, if anything, will be the result of his execution (other than him being dead)? (e.g.: Sunnis go more nuts, massive Shiite celebrations end in blood, Iraqis finally break out the flowers and sweets, etc.)


What will Bush say about his execution?




My own guesses:

-- Dead by January 15.
-- Huge Shiite celebratory rallies, huge Sunni protests and expressions of anger. Extra points for anyone who can tell the difference between the two. A few bombs go off in Shiite neighborhoods but not much more than normal. Lots of threats of revenge and blood oaths sworn. (In sum: A lot of sound and fury, but signifying little more than your regularly scheduled snafu.)
-- "Today is a great day for the people of Iraq. The dictator's long shadow has now been erased. In the words of one great American, the Iraqi people are free at last, free at last."

Hank Chinaski 12-29-2006 01:24 PM

Saddam Poll
 
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
When will he be executed?


What, if anything, will be the result of his execution (other than him being dead)? (e.g.: Sunnis go more nuts, massive Shiite celebrations end in blood, Iraqis finally break out the flowers and sweets, etc.)


What will Bush say about his execution?




My own guesses:

-- Dead by January 15.
-- Huge Shiite celebratory rallies, huge Sunni protests and expressions of anger. Extra points for anyone who can tell the difference between the two. A few bombs go off in Shiite neighborhoods but not much more than normal. Lots of threats of revenge and blood oaths sworn. (In sum: A lot of sound and fury, but signifying little more than your regularly scheduled snafu.)
-- "Today is a great day for the people of Iraq. The dictator's long shadow has now been erased. In the words of one great American, the Iraqi people are free at last, free at last."
I guess Prison break later tonight. Led by jimmy Carter.

Tyrone Slothrop 12-29-2006 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Maybe he is just respecting the time honoured tradition that former POTI don't criticise or second guess the current POTUS. Of course, Peanutfarmerboy blew that tradition out of the water so I guess its open season now. Sad that the Dems let their hatred of America and freedom degrade us all.
Turns out Dems were just following Ronald Reagan's lead in letting their hatred of America blow tradition out of the water.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 12-29-2006 01:42 PM

Just answer the questions...
 
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Okay. Then let's say that you have ten prisoners that our repeatedly flawed intelligence suggests might know something about an attack that might happen. However, you also know that all of the prisoners were reported to be "terrorists" by neighbors who have grudges against them.

Torture them? Yes or no?

Oh! This looks like fun. Can I play?

Let's say you know that someone in town X committed a terrorist act, and is likely to do so again. You think it's most likely a male between 15 and 30, because that is who has been doing most of these things. You hear a rumor that something "big" might be about to happen.

Do you arrest everyone between 15 and 30 in the town and start torturing them? Does it matter whether the town is Piahria or Baghdad?

Or, how about this one:

Let's say you have heard rumors that some member of family X is involved in terrorist activity. You don't know which it is, but you take the mother and her daughter into custody and tell the rest of the family you're not releasing them until you get your information, and if you don't get it soon, bad things will happen. Do you start torturing the mother and daughter to elicit the confession?

Penske_Account 12-29-2006 01:46 PM

Saddam Poll
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I guess Prison break later tonight. Led by jimmy Carter.
Which mission will be aborted due to a helicopter crash in the desert.

Hank Chinaski 12-29-2006 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Turns out Dems were just following Ronald Reagan's lead in letting their hatred of America blow tradition out of the water.
Quick question, and your answer will decide how much I will actually contribute here in 2007. Do you seriously think this is the same as what Carter did?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 12-29-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Turns out Dems were just following Ronald Reagan's lead in letting their hatred of America blow tradition out of the water.
Criticisizing the current president is an old tradition. Hoover called Roosevelt a fascist for his New Deal programs. Teddy Roosevelt had choice words for everyone who came after him. Martin van Buren made a career out of harrassing his successors.

Just because Clinton shows restraint and behaves like a gentleman, doesn't mean all the other ex-Presidents are going to live up to his standards.

Sidd Finch 12-29-2006 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Turns out Dems were just following Ronald Reagan's lead in letting their hatred of America blow tradition out of the water.
Yes, but at least he did us all the service of explaining that the US would see increasing deficits and falling growth under Clinton.

Penske_Account 12-29-2006 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Turns out Dems were just following Ronald Reagan's lead in letting their hatred of America blow tradition out of the water.
Notwithstanding the objective correctness of his critique, he cannot be held responsible for his transgression, it was related to the Alzheimers. He forgot the obligation.

Sidd Finch 12-29-2006 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Criticisizing the current president is an old tradition. Hoover called Roosevelt a fascist for his New Deal programs. Teddy Roosevelt had choice words for everyone who came after him. Martin van Buren made a career out of harrassing his successors.

Just because Clinton shows restraint and behaves like a gentleman, doesn't mean all the other ex-Presidents are going to live up to his standards.
Yeah, but Clinton is probably getting laid a lot more than any of his predecessors. It cuts into his time for political critique.

Tyrone Slothrop 12-29-2006 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Quick question, and your answer will decide how much I will actually contribute here in 2007. Do you seriously think this is the same as what Carter did?
I seriously don't recall what Carter did. But probably not the same. Writing an op-ed about broken campaign promises a month into Clinton's terms is both more and less malign than addressing foreign policy.

Hank Chinaski 12-29-2006 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I seriously don't recall what Carter did. But probably not the same. Writing an op-ed about broken campaign promises a month into Clinton's terms is both more and less malign than addressing foreign policy.
Ummm, Reagan was addressing rhetoric about what clinton maybe might do.

It's like Groundhog day. 12 more months of no value here.

SlaveNoMore 12-29-2006 02:47 PM

Peanuts
 
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Tyrone Slothrop
I seriously don't recall what Carter did. But probably not the same. Writing an op-ed about broken campaign promises a month into Clinton's terms is both more and less malign than addressing foreign policy.
"Addressing foreign policy"?

You have saved the "understatement of the year" for the final work day of 2006. Bravo.

Tyrone Slothrop 12-29-2006 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Ummm, Reagan was addressing rhetoric about what clinton maybe might do.
All I'm saying is that there really was no reason for Reagan to write the thing he wrote. If Carter had come out against the war three days before the invasion (did he? -- I rely on you DU readers to keep me informed about him), it would be both much worse, given that it was a war, but you'd also be able to understand that he did it because it was serious. Reagan complaing about Clinton's campaign promises? WTF? (Penske says it was the Alzheimers. Maybe in a few years we'll say the same thing about Carter.)

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It's like Groundhog day. 12 more months of no value here.
Penske and I wish you'd pull your weight, but we have only ourselves to blame for giving you a contract with a huge signing bonus and no incentives. Actually, I blame him -- he's got to lay off the boxed wine during contract negotiations.

Tyrone Slothrop 12-29-2006 02:50 PM

Peanuts
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
"Addressing foreign policy"?

You have saved the "understatement of the year" for the final work day of 2006. Bravo.
I. Don't. Recall. What. Carter. Did.

You're the only ones paying attention to him now.


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