Re: "This ain't Rock n' Roll... This is genocide!"
 

He may once have been iconic, but, please, think of the thin white dude as part of the past.

Absolutely everything done in the last ten years by over 50 has-beens has been just horrid, including Bowie. It's like the old saints extracted and sold off their own relics. Sad, sad, sad. They belong three circles of hell in from the horn players. IF there is any exception at all, it's this dude, who had the good sense to embrace his has-been status (may he RIP).

Re: "This ain't Rock n' Roll... This is genocide!"
 

"Has been"? Bowie? Are you nuts? What do you think happened to his catalog? It just evaporated into irrelevance?

Art doesn't go stale if it's timeless, and Bowie is timeless. Sure, his current stuff isn't as resonant as his old stuff. But an icon doesn't devolve into a has been as a simple effect of age. If that were the case, Sinatra's 50-65 stretch, during which he put out much of the great work we all remember, is scrap for the garbage heap. Which is clearly not the case.

The Thin White Duke isn't a stadium-filler of a his Let's Dance days (his last Big Record), but he's still, and always will be, David Fucking Bowie, Genius Songwriter and Performer. And even in his dotage, he remains more innovative than his peers (Stones, Kinks, Who, Zeppelin, etc.) out there humping greatest hits collections.

And if you doubt Bowie generally deserves monstrous props, watch him nail "America" from the Concert for 9/11. How many talents on the planet can redo that tune's structure on short notice, then sing it better than the original?

Or perhaps consider "Queen Bitch," a tune that seems to be the trailer music for every edgy movie of the last five years. Sound like it was written yesterday? Better hooks than 70% of modern rock? Yep. That's genius.

I won't have you talking shit about Bowie any more than I'll have Not Bob listening to Fun..

Re: "This ain't Rock n' Roll... This is genocide!"
 

So, your defense of Bowie's last ten years is "America"?

Rest my case.

Go listen to my link. That's a has been who still was.

Re: "This ain't Rock n' Roll... This is genocide!"
 

For whatever reason, whenever I watch a YouTube video, there is a one in two chance that I am going to have to sit through a fifteen second ad for the new Bowie album. The ad always starts with that song "Where Are We Now," and shows a clip from the video with Bowie's face poking through that screen appearing as a weird conjoined teddie bear puppet or something:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Now_video.jpg

Anyway, I know you said the song was an outlier on the album, but I now despise it so much, it is coloring my view on the entire Bowie oeuvre.

Re: Your daddy's rich and your mama's good-looking.
 

I like how proud the director is of his work. You go Dgainz!

Re: Your daddy's rich and your mama's good-looking.
 

Touché, you little monster.

Re: "This ain't Rock n' Roll... This is genocide!"
 

It will not surprise any of you that I think Springsteen's last 3 albums have been really great. There are songs on each of them that are among my most listened to, and that I think stand up to his earlier work really well.

Re: "This ain't Rock n' Roll... This is genocide!"
 

Springstein has long since stopped being actual music and simply become a respected American brand. We could develop an App to write and play Springstein based on his formulaic style, so BRUCE! need never die. He will be just as fresh in 1000 years as he is today.

Anyone want my views on the Dead?

Re: "This ain't Rock n' Roll... This is genocide!"
 

Not if you're going to be discussing their work after 1979.

Re: "This ain't Rock n' Roll... This is genocide!"
 

taking acid and fiddling stray guitar notes is not "work," at least not in these by-gosh United States of America. Those guys didn't even bother to bathe.

Re: "This ain't Rock n' Roll... This is genocide!"
 

Dick's Picks 22. Just buy it. If that guitar is noodling to you, you've a head full of noddle-like matter.

(Agreed on post-79 Dead. Save a brief bright point in 89, and another in 91, it's really dull.)

ETA: The best Dead is the old acid-fueled Dead, before they started doing the country stuff live. The First Album/Aoxomoxoa/Anthem of the Sun live sets. "China Cat>Eleven", "Cryptical>Other One" being highlights. A good rule for their best stuff is to buy the sets on which Pigpen was playing. But never listen to any of the songs on which Pigpen sings (unless you find the cirrhotic ramblings and screeching harmonica of someone with a BAC somewhere between Richard Burton and Dylan Thomas after bar crawls interesting).

Re: "This ain't Rock n' Roll... This is genocide!"
 

A roommate of mine in college detested the Dead. But he said that Jerry was one of the greatest guitar players ever.

I meant to add that said roommate was in a very good college band and still works in the music industry.

Re: Your daddy's rich and your mama's good-looking.
 

If you "direct" a rap video and there is even the remotest chance that it is going to get 27 million views, I think it is probably a good idea to get your name on it:

http://www.bet.com/news/music/2012/1...ill-music.html

Re: "This ain't Rock n' Roll... This is genocide!"
 

Why does this shit turn me on?

Re: "This ain't Rock n' Roll... This is genocide!"
 

It's the Dylan Thomas bar crawls reference that does it for me...

Um, well, no, what I meant was, uh, it's probably the whole bad-boy rocker tone of the thing. You like bad boys, right?