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ferrets_bueller 05-30-2013 03:54 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
Ferrets, who is almost certainly older than any of you, finds the dialog on contemporary music interesting. I have become eclectic in my dotage. It will become obvious that I don't keep up to date with the latest, greatest, avant guarde musical trends. Here is the perspective of someone who entered college in the early 60s:

Although I believe The Rolling Stones have no equal, they should hang it up. See also, Bob Dylan. And anybody who was on "We Are The World."

I blame all of you for Katie Perry. And Ms. Gaga. And Boy Bands. You can blame me for Phil Collins. And disco.

Women who rock: Ronstadt.

Fun.. One. Hit. Wonder. "Some Nights" is arresting for the first 10 times you hear it. The other stuff is wretched.

Bowie stands the test of time. But Paul Simon is timeless.

Call me a conventional, drab know nothing, but U2 and Bono are still better than any band currently touring, except Springsteen.

Horns have a place in rock and roll. I give you the late Clarence Clemmons, and whoever plays the trumpet in Simon's "Late In The Evening." (You're correct about Chicago.)

Mumford will make a fortune touring colleges below the Mason Dixon Line. Replacing Dave Matthews, and Darius Rucker, sans Blowfish.

The Dead Beatles both had more talent than McCartney.

I will now return to sitting in a puddle of my own drool. Thanks for listening. Let the mockery commence.

Flinty_McFlint 05-30-2013 04:20 PM

Re: Your daddy's rich and your mama's good-looking.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 479947)
If you "direct" a rap video and there is even the remotest chance that it is going to get 27 million views, I think it is probably a good idea to get your name on it:

http://www.bet.com/news/music/2012/1...ill-music.html

He's clearly killing it and is wealthier and more respected than I will ever hope to be, but the same could be said for Ryan Seacrest too. I just don't think either of them will be remembered as great artistes by my great-great-great grandmonkeys, but I'm sure they will be working for their descendants somehow.

Not Bob 05-30-2013 06:53 PM

Well, I guess I've been in love before.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrets_bueller (Post 479956)
Ferrets, who is almost certainly older than any of you, finds the dialog on contemporary music interesting. I have become eclectic in my dotage. [snip]

Women who rock: Ronstadt.

[snip]

Bowie stands the test of time. But Paul Simon is timeless. [snip]

Horns have a place in rock and roll. I give you the late Clarence Clemmons, and whoever plays the trumpet in Simon's "Late In The Evening." [snip]

I will now return to sitting in a puddle of my own drool. Thanks for listening. Let the mockery commence.

No mockery from this geezer (who is stuck in a mediation in a Midwestern Marriott). (Or is he?)

Thanks for putting the Simon song in my head. I chose it for the re line over "they don't give a damn about any trumpet-playing band/it ain't what they call rock and roll" (overused by me) and "he put me through some changes, Lord/sort of like a Waring blender" (confession - I like Linda's version better than Warren's).

And, Atticus, I do like Ray LaMontagne.

Not Bob 05-30-2013 06:58 PM

I ain't saying you ain't pretty.
 
Upon reflection, could have gone with that as the re line, too.

Policy limits. It's always policy limits.

taxwonk 05-30-2013 07:42 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrets_bueller (Post 479956)
Ferrets, who is almost certainly older than any of you, finds the dialog on contemporary music interesting. I have become eclectic in my dotage. It will become obvious that I don't keep up to date with the latest, greatest, avant guarde musical trends. Here is the perspective of someone who entered college in the early 60s:

Although I believe The Rolling Stones have no equal, they should hang it up. See also, Bob Dylan. And anybody who was on "We Are The World."

I blame all of you for Katie Perry. And Ms. Gaga. And Boy Bands. You can blame me for Phil Collins. And disco.

Women who rock: Ronstadt.

Fun.. One. Hit. Wonder. "Some Nights" is arresting for the first 10 times you hear it. The other stuff is wretched.

Bowie stands the test of time. But Paul Simon is timeless.

Call me a conventional, drab know nothing, but U2 and Bono are still better than any band currently touring, except Springsteen.

Horns have a place in rock and roll. I give you the late Clarence Clemmons, and whoever plays the trumpet in Simon's "Late In The Evening." (You're correct about Chicago.)

Mumford will make a fortune touring colleges below the Mason Dixon Line. Replacing Dave Matthews, and Darius Rucker, sans Blowfish.

The Dead Beatles both had more talent than McCartney.

I will now return to sitting in a puddle of my own drool. Thanks for listening. Let the mockery commence.

I agree with nearly all of what you say, with a major exception. U2 and Bono are played out for me. Forever.

sebastian_dangerfield 05-30-2013 07:55 PM

Re: "This ain't Rock n' Roll... This is genocide!"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 479951)
Why does this shit turn me on?

It's Burton. Anything sleeping with Elizabeth Taylor in her prime oozes sex appeal by merely having been in her orbit.

You only need to recall any single minute of Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf (one of the best acted things committed to celluloid) involving interplay between Burton and Taylor, to imagine those two not only soaked the sheets when they went at it, but also the mattress, and box-spring.

Miss Maine 05-31-2013 06:30 AM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrets_bueller (Post 479956)
Ferrets, who is almost certainly older than any of you, finds the dialog on contemporary music interesting. I have become eclectic in my dotage. It will become obvious that I don't keep up to date with the latest, greatest, avant guarde musical trends. Here is the perspective of someone who entered college in the early 60s:

Although I believe The Rolling Stones have no equal, they should hang it up. See also, Bob Dylan. And anybody who was on "We Are The World."

I blame all of you for Katie Perry. And Ms. Gaga. And Boy Bands. You can blame me for Phil Collins. And disco.

Women who rock: Ronstadt.

Fun.. One. Hit. Wonder. "Some Nights" is arresting for the first 10 times you hear it. The other stuff is wretched.

Bowie stands the test of time. But Paul Simon is timeless.

Call me a conventional, drab know nothing, but U2 and Bono are still better than any band currently touring, except Springsteen.

Horns have a place in rock and roll. I give you the late Clarence Clemmons, and whoever plays the trumpet in Simon's "Late In The Evening." (You're correct about Chicago.)

Mumford will make a fortune touring colleges below the Mason Dixon Line. Replacing Dave Matthews, and Darius Rucker, sans Blowfish.

The Dead Beatles both had more talent than McCartney.

I will now return to sitting in a puddle of my own drool. Thanks for listening. Let the mockery commence.


Ferrets
As your contemporary, I agree with your comments, and add to your list the Beach Boys (in homage to my youth spent in LA)

Miss Maine

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 05-31-2013 08:55 AM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Maine (Post 479983)
Ferrets
As your contemporary, I agree with your comments, and add to your list the Beach Boys (in homage to my youth spent in LA)

Miss Maine

The thing about these guys is their music once said something, but all they're saying when they take the stage today is "Yeh, I'm rich as hell, but still greedy..." Musically, just not as inspiring.

Pretty Little Flower 05-31-2013 10:25 AM

Re: Your daddy's rich and your mama's good-looking.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flinty_McFlint (Post 479957)
He's clearly killing it and is wealthier and more respected than I will ever hope to be, but the same could be said for Ryan Seacrest too. I just don't think either of them will be remembered as great artistes by my great-great-great grandmonkeys, but I'm sure they will be working for their descendants somehow.

Oddly, the Dgainz-Seacrest comparison gives them both more credit than they deserve. (Really, people respect Seacrest?) I don't know much about Dgainz, but I doubt he is rich, and I don't know if he is that known (much less respected), outside of those who are following that wave of Chicago hip hop that has been launched by these YouTube videos. And there is clearly not much to his "directing" other than just being there and filming a moment. He says as much in the interview. Basically, everyone was drunk and high and someone put on "I Don't Like" and he started filming. He would have edited out the guns, but he did not have enough footage. What I think most find striking about it is that it is almost a brief documentary look inside what seems to be a pretty scary world. A bunch of 16 and 17 year old kids smoking blunt after blunt, waving 30-clip pistols, and talking about what they're going to do to snitches. Some of it may be posturing, but if you think it is all posing, talk to Lil JoJo's mom.

taxwonk 05-31-2013 12:45 PM

Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 479985)
The thing about these guys is their music once said something, but all they're saying when they take the stage today is "Yeh, I'm rich as hell, but still greedy..." Musically, just not as inspiring.

Pet Sounds was one of the great ground-breaking albums of the 60s. For that reason alone, they are and will remain legend. On a more personal note, I will always be grateful for a 7th grade dance at the Rec Center and a little red-haired girl named Rhonda.

Atticus Grinch 05-31-2013 02:11 PM

Re: Your daddy's rich and your mama's good-looking.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 479986)
waving 30-clip pistols

I'd rather you not propagate this thug-life nonsense. I think you mean "pistols with 30-round magazines."

Pretty Little Flower 05-31-2013 03:09 PM

Re: Your daddy's rich and your mama's good-looking.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 479991)
I'd rather you not propagate this thug-life nonsense. I think you mean "pistols with 30-round magazines."

Yeah, I wouldn't know a Glock from a nine if someone busted a cap in my ass with both. Remember when the kids just rapped about Uzis and AKs? It was a simpler time.

Hank Chinaski 05-31-2013 04:01 PM

Re: Your daddy's rich and your mama's good-looking.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 479992)
Yeah, I wouldn't know a Glock from a nine if someone busted a cap in my ass with both. Remember when the kids just rapped about Uzis and AKs? It was a simpler time.

So Hitler, I take it you disagreed with the Trayvon Martin Judge's exclusion of the pistol evidence?

Atticus Grinch 05-31-2013 05:16 PM

Re: Your daddy's rich and your mama's good-looking.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 479992)
Yeah, I wouldn't know a Glock from a nine if someone busted a cap in my ass with both. Remember when the kids just rapped about Uzis and AKs? It was a simpler time.

I've recently had to become more educated about firearms and I've come to twin realizations: (1) when gun nuts complain that the lamestream media don't know a fucking thing about guns, there is a grain of truth in that THE MEDIA DON'T KNOW A FUCKING THING ABOUT GUNS; and (2) people whose only source of information about guns is mass media really are as misinformed as the gun nuts say. Doesn't mean those people are wrong to have their ultimate opinions about gun control, but I've been surprised to see the number of times a .22 semiautomatic gets called "a high-powered rifle" because a reporter checked a photo online and decided it looked like an assault weapon. Which leads the paranoid gun nuts to assume that legislation to ban certain kinds of weapons is really an opening salvo with an endgame of banning everything down to the target pistols.

ETA: Like when the AP Twitter account elaborated on the Newtown murders by tweeting a photo of what a .223 caliber rifle "looks like": a tricked-out AR-15. AP: "The suspect was reportedly driving a car. This is what a car looks like. {posts photo of Hummer}" Car owners: "Fuck you. {changes channel to Fox}"

Hank Chinaski 05-31-2013 06:29 PM

Re: Your daddy's rich and your mama's good-looking.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 479994)
I've recently had to become more educated about firearms and I've come to twin realizations: (1) when gun nuts complain that the lamestream media don't know a fucking thing about guns, there is a grain of truth in that THE MEDIA DON'T KNOW A FUCKING THING ABOUT GUNS; and (2) people whose only source of information about guns is mass media really are as misinformed as the gun nuts say. Doesn't mean those people are wrong to have their ultimate opinions about gun control, but I've been surprised to see the number of times a .22 semiautomatic gets called "a high-powered rifle" because a reporter checked a photo online and decided it looked like an assault weapon. Which leads the paranoid gun nuts to assume that legislation to ban certain kinds of weapons is really an opening salvo with an endgame of banning everything down to the target pistols.

ETA: Like when the AP Twitter account elaborated on the Newtown murders by tweeting a photo of what a .223 caliber rifle "looks like": a tricked-out AR-15. AP: "The suspect was reportedly driving a car. This is what a car looks like. {posts photo of Hummer}" Car owners: "Fuck you. {changes channel to Fox}"

if you're going to try to keep selling this intellectual twit persona, you really need to pay more attention to grammar, whether to use a plural or singular verb as an example.


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