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People are free to waste their money as they wish, but the hypocrisy from those who decried Trump's comments on the election being rigged is sad and embarrassing.

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Nice pivot from imagined white dude in Hokum having credit cards cancelled to the kids with loans. I was thinking the credit cards you were cancelling would mostly be invested in Bud.

There are great arguments for bringing down education costs, forgiving loans, generally making it a priority for investment. Avoids another lost generation among the lumpen-bourgeoisie.

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Hank and I are just a couple of kids from the lower middle class who grew up to be part of the global elite.

well said
 

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They are. Student debt forgiven for the kids, credit cards forgiven for the doublewide demographic. Both have much better multipliers and social benefits than payments to rentiers.

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As I know this may be of some importance to you both, if you thought the 12 was too much carmel, Macallan's new Double Cask might be right up your alley. The sweetness is perfectly cut.

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Well, this gave me a good laugh.

You think there is a multiplier to a dead-ender with an opiate problem hanging out in a double wide but not an immigrant trying to build a life for his or her family in the city?

https://media.tenor.co/images/33a1a9...29a0d6cc36/raw

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I was comparing the multiplier of rent payments to consumer spending and business investment. How you shoehorned immigration into the conversation I'm unsure.

But since you did, obviously, no sane person would argue debt forgiveness for oxy addicts is better for the economy than liberal immigration. If you're looking for someone to argue immigration with, I'm not your man. We're in agreement on that issue.

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The question I started with was how it was that the disgruntled white dude in low-cost Hokum, PA needed his credit card cancelled while the immigrant lyft driver in expensive Boston was getting by and building a life for his or her family.

That was the question I started with, you tried to respond first by pivoting to students and then by pivoting to some thoughts about discharging the Hokum dude's loans would have a better multiplier than helping some rentier (who I assume was my immigrant, though why I don't know).

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The immigrant's probably carrying debt that holds him back as well. I didn't propose a cancellation of debt for only non-immigrants. I proposed an across the board cancellation. How did you conclude otherwise?

I didn't pivot to shit. I tried to offer something constructive. Why are immigrants building lives in urban areas while oxy addicts in WV not doing so? That's simple. They're hungry and ambitious. All the more reason to let them come in and improve the country.

But that doesn't speak to the issue that preceded your initial post cited above, which was a discussion of the merits of guaranteed income vs. debt forgiveness.

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No hope for either of those programs. Zero.

Best ways to build jobs in Hokum would have been to redo the buy-a-visa program to require that the jobs created in connection with the visa be focused in areas with greater than 8% unemployment and to increase research funding for commercialization programs to red state universities.

But the first program needed Hillary + at least a democratic Senate and the second program has been fought by the red staters like crazy (for example, trying to get clean coal research programs going at the University of W. Virginia or Kentucky is a bust, because they want to focus on climate-denial science instead -- so instead we get like a half billion dollars for clean coal research in Boston).

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And hilariously, a recount at this point, especailly a hand recount as I have been led to believe she is requesting, could result in Wisconsin's electoral votes not counting at all. And now the Hillary campaign is joining in, because voter fraud only is a thing when Democrats lose (especially after the Obama admin said there was no evidence of hacking or Russian influence).

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Apparently millions of people voted illegally and the whole election is suspect, at least that's what the purported winner is telling us.

[FYI, I'm not terribly excited one way or the other on the recount, but do generally think recounts and audits are good for the integrity of the system for reasons I need not get into here -- but the margins are wide enough so they're very likely to be upheld, especially given that multiple states are involved, so if the goal is changing the outcome, good luck with that.

But if someone is chuckling at any hypocrisy among dems, I think you've got to really belly laugh about that of the ApriKot KleptoKrat.]

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Gonna need a lot of this stuff.

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