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Replaced_Texan 04-17-2015 02:13 PM
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So what sort of polling tells Chris Christie "no marijuana on my watch" is a viable stance for nomination and later general election? Even my parents are fully on board with legalization. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7066636.html

Sidd Finch 04-17-2015 02:38 PM
Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 495640)
So what sort of polling tells Chris Christie "no marijuana on my watch" is a viable stance for nomination and later general election? Even my parents are fully on board with legalization. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7066636.html
He figures everyone who feels strongly against this position will be too stoned to vote?

ThurgreedMarshall 04-17-2015 03:40 PM
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So what sort of polling tells Chris Christie "no marijuana on my watch" is a viable stance for nomination and later general election? Even my parents are fully on board with legalization. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7066636.html
Polling? It's like you don't know he's a completely fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants-speak-the-truth-to-the-powerless candidate. And by all that, I mean he takes the stance of whichever high profile millionaire agrees to fly him around on their personal jet.

TM

taxwonk 04-18-2015 11:49 AM
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The encampment in Oakland had some serious problems. I doubt that was the only one. And honestly, the idea of occupying downtown Oakland in order to strike at "the 1%" is just plain silly.
MY whole attitude, one shared by most of the people I knew in Chicago were just "oh, let the kids have their fun; they aren't hurting anyone and soon enough they'll get bored and go home.

But that didn't keep Rahm from channeling the ghost of old King Richard J. Daley.

Sidd Finch 04-18-2015 07:34 PM
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MY whole attitude, one shared by most of the people I knew in Chicago were just "oh, let the kids have their fun; they aren't hurting anyone and soon enough they'll get bored and go home.

But that didn't keep Rahm from channeling the ghost of old King Richard J. Daley.
A number of people who had worked their asses off to open stores and restaurants in Oakland felt rather hurt when their windows were smashed and their stores looted. But, hey -- so long as the kids had fun, that's ok, right? I mean, it's just the life savings of a guy who works 80 hours a week, right?

And to be clear -- and, honestly, it sickens me that I have to say this, but if I don't I'll be getting PC-slammed for the next four days -- the fact that the Occupy campers included some assholes who thought that lower-middle class merchants represent "the 1%" and deserve to be attacked that way, DOES NOT JUSTIFY POLICE CRACKING SKULLS OPEN. Just to be clear.

Hank Chinaski 04-18-2015 09:34 PM
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A number of people who had worked their asses off to open stores and restaurants in Oakland felt rather hurt when their windows were smashed and their stores looted. But, hey -- so long as the kids had fun, that's ok, right? I mean, it's just the life savings of a guy who works 80 hours a week, right?

And to be clear -- and, honestly, it sickens me that I have to say this, but if I don't I'll be getting PC-slammed for the next four days -- the fact that the Occupy campers included some assholes who thought that lower-middle class merchants represent "the 1%" and deserve to be attacked that way, DOES NOT JUSTIFY POLICE CRACKING SKULLS OPEN. Just to be clear.
We were meeting friends at the Moth (hi Thurgreed!) in Soho one Tuesday. The occupy folks did a march up 2 avenues towards central park. Taking out two avenues , hell even one, destroyed traffic. My friend never made it. He cleans pools on Long Island. I'm 1% but they didn't bother me, butmy friend forever hated them.

In Detroit they set up in a place where they only bothered poor, hell the homeless. They were fuzzy brained rich kids, think Adder as he was thinking about whether law school made sense-

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-19-2015 12:28 PM
Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 495651)
A number of people who had worked their asses off to open stores and restaurants in Oakland felt rather hurt when their windows were smashed and their stores looted. But, hey -- so long as the kids had fun, that's ok, right? I mean, it's just the life savings of a guy who works 80 hours a week, right?

And to be clear -- and, honestly, it sickens me that I have to say this, but if I don't I'll be getting PC-slammed for the next four days -- the fact that the Occupy campers included some assholes who thought that lower-middle class merchants represent "the 1%" and deserve to be attacked that way, DOES NOT JUSTIFY POLICE CRACKING SKULLS OPEN. Just to be clear.
It was a radically different experience here, where none of that kind of rioting occurred. I think it had something to do with the way they were dealt with; to the extent I saw images of people getting out of hand, I saw more police misbehavior, certainly in NY but in a lot of other cities too. It seems pretty clear to me that NYPD caused many more problems than they fixed in the way they handled it - if you want angry protesters, try penning them in and then macing them randomly once they're trapped. How were the Oakland police handling the whole thing?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-19-2015 12:30 PM
Re: Hank's first world problems
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 495652)
We were meeting friends at the Moth (hi Thurgreed!) in Soho one Tuesday. The occupy folks did a march up 2 avenues towards central park. Taking out two avenues , hell even one, destroyed traffic. My friend never made it. He cleans pools on Long Island. I'm 1% but they didn't bother me, butmy friend forever hated them.
Yeah, man, traffic in NYC sucks.

Traffic around here is going to be way worse tomorrow than it was even in the middle of the Ferguson protests, when they were intentionally trying to shut down traffic in the city. But it'll be a good day anyways.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-19-2015 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 495647)
Polling? It's like you don't know he's a completely fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants-speak-the-truth-to-the-powerless candidate. And by all that, I mean he takes the stance of whichever high profile millionaire agrees to fly him around on their personal jet.

TM
The republican primaries are looking to be a serious goat rodeo. Is there any candidate in the mix who doesn't seem just primed for a melt down?

Tyrone Slothrop 04-19-2015 08:09 PM
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How were the Oakland police handling the whole thing?
They were worse than NYPD.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-20-2015 08:39 AM
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They were worse than NYPD.
I wish I were more surprised.

Gattigap 04-20-2015 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 495655)
The republican primaries are looking to be a serious goat rodeo. Is there any candidate in the mix who doesn't seem just primed for a melt down?
Well, my initial impression is that Jeb has the skillset to give a good impression of a competent mainstream candidate. He might still melt down by being pulled too close to one of the many black holes presented by the field, but we'll have to see how it plays out.

Doesn't mean I won't still enjoy watching Jeb and a couple others trying to navigate the shoal between, say, Cruz and Graham on some debate stage in Des Moines.

Tyrone Slothrop 04-20-2015 05:25 PM
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Well, my initial impression is that Jeb has the skillset to give a good impression of a competent mainstream candidate. He might still melt down by being pulled too close to one of the many black holes presented by the field, but we'll have to see how it plays out.
He's really unpopular.

Hank Chinaski 04-20-2015 05:35 PM
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Has Rove taught you nothing? Total % is meaningless. Yes Hillary will win NY and Cali BY A LOT! So what?

Not Bob 04-20-2015 05:54 PM
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 495670)
Has Rove taught you nothing? Total % is meaningless. Yes Hillary will win NY and Cali BY A LOT! So what?
Word. Apropos of this, Jeb! currently leads* HRC head-to-head in Florida.

His big problem right now isn't that he has bad national numbers; his big problem right now is that he doesn't seem to be all that popular with GOP primary voters. Fixable? What do I know? I ain't no Atwater's son, no.

*As does Marco Rubio, fwiw.


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