question to leagl or MR or Burger
 

Love the avatar, ncs. Maybe you can find one of Burgermeister Meisterburger for Burger, C.J. Or Rudolph with the mud on his nose for MR.

question to leagl or MR or Burger
 

Well I did find this... http://biggerboat.phpwebhosting.com/.../heatmnews.htm

[spree -- link to fake cnn story about heat miser/snow miser popularity contest; no pop-ups came up when I opened and closed it (unlike fake Dave Matthews death story)]

n(the link contains a link to a picture of Burgermeister Meisterburger if any Burgers are interested)cs

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...er&sa=N&tab=wi


Pictures of the snow dude

What's Your Destiny - Poll?
 

Hmm, great minds ... and I am also a provider. We must be soul mates.

From the WTC file
 

What??? Do posters on these boards have names that mask their sex identities in real life??? Such nerve!

free webcast
 

quote:
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Originally posted by spookyfish
Since you asked so nicely, I'll attempt to refresh your memory, and that was point (#5), which you conveniently left off, I quote:

"Why do women always want to compete with men on this level? They can't. World class women athletes can beat the hell out of most males in whatever sport they're in, but they cannot compete with world class male athletes, period." Post #5861

"Sorenstam is naturally, physically incapable of competing with men on the same level in professional golf." Post #6127

Put these two together, and your central premise translates to:

"Women are naturally physically incapable of competing with men on the same level in professional golf."

Absent affirmative proof to the contrary, this is a completely asinine statement. With due acknowledgement to the physical differences between men and women, and acknowedging that in some respects, women might be disadvantaged because of these differences, it doesn't automatically mean that women are incapable of being competitive with men in PGA Tour events, unless your definition of competitive reaches an standard you wouldn't apply to most of the men on tour.

You have a lot of nice little hedges in your argument like she will not prove that she can be competitive with the guys on the tour until she qualifies (and doesn't finish dead last) in a major, and that if she was (by some miracle) competitive in this tournament it would only mean she played well in this particular tournament on a course that suits her. You also stated that that she probably couldn't qualify for her Tour card if she tried. Unfortunately, this is all just a convenient way of using semantics to show that your blanket statement on the subject (i.e. that women are incapable of competing with men in professional golf) can never be proven wrong, at least not by her.

First of all most men on the tour aren't in a position to qualify for a major. Second, because you and I both know it is 99.9% certain she will never pursue these options (Why would she?), you're safe (for the moment) in your blanket statement that no woman is capable of competing with men in professional golf. How big of you.

This is why I became convinced we were talking past each other, since I considered PGA Tour Professionals as a class world-class athletes, so that if she was competitive with them in this tournament, it would show that women (since she is one) could compete with men at the same level in professional golf.

Your argument that she chose this tournament because it played to her strengths is just smoke. Not every PGA professional plays every tournament anyway and those they choose to play I would venture to guess are chosen based on maximizing their chances for success. Why should you bitch about her doing anything different from what most of the guys on tour normally do?

IMHO, your points #1 and 2, were not worth spending a lot of time arguing about because unless the rules are changed, it's a fucking moot point, and you were consistent on these throughout. Wrongheaded -- but consistent.
As to #3, you were also consistent. But just because it may be harder for someone to compete, doesn't mean they are incapable of being competitive.

As to point #4, I could give less than a rat's ass about what some anonymous chat board retard thinks about me.

Point #5 is where you're really being inconsistent, and why I think you're full of shit when you say, "I hope she does well", because then your argument starts to fall apart under it's own fucking weight, if judged by normal non-Thurgreed standards. (See "hedges" above).
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First off, let me note that in not one place in that exhaustive email did you actually say I was being inconsistent. You implied it in your last point because you had to cover your ass. And if you're going to quote me, you should go back to one of my first posts (before you even jumped in, I believe) and quote me when I said I hope she does well.

Second of all, either we have different definitions of "compete" or the "nice little hedges" you're talking about are so huge that they swallow your argument.

Yes. I'm talking about the PGA Tour as a whole when I say the players are world class athletes. Most players who compete earn their tour card one way or another. Most players play more than one tournament that fits their game to a "T." Hell, under your theory, Annika would be competing on a par three course of three holes. So, when I say, "compete," I mean actually compete. She may play well and make the cut, she may end up second to last (in which case you will be jumping up and down telling me how you won the argument). Hell, most people think that in order to be fair to HER, she should play in more than one tournament. So, finishing in the bottom third of this event and not making the cut (which, yes, I hope does not happen), is not really "competing." But I won't be yelling that at the top of my lungs if it happens because it's only one tournament (even if she finishes in the bottom 5%).

Saying that she won't play more than this event and this is why I have chosen to argue the way I have is ridiculous. If she thought she had a chance to compete on the Tour, she would do it. She doesn't, which is why she has only chosen this one event.

So, what happens when she doesn't make the cut? Does that mean she is competing at world class level? If I got a sponsor's exemption, I could play Thursday and Friday and not make the cut. Does it matter that she beat a few guys without making the cut? I would say, I would be impressed with that considering the natural physical differences between her and most men. But, if she played 1000 tournaments at The Colonial and never made the cut, would she be competing? No. You would argue that if she beat one guy in each of the 1000 tournaments that she has successfully competed.

Either way, I'm sick of discussing this with you. And I'm sure the board is as well. So, let's continue on PM or let it go already.

TM

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Do you two get any work done at all? How are you still employed?

-T(still at work and bitter about it)L

Names and Stuff
 

So I need a good name for the parasite - any ideas?

-T(Besides Cletus the Fetus, suggested yesterday by Mr. Lex and vetoed by me)L

Names and Stuff
 

Names and Stuff
 

Before we knew the sex, we referred to the baby as "the alien" or just "Squirt." Once we knew the sex, I picked a name of the right gender and ethnicity that I was certain we wouldn't use. My family was certain that, having established the habit, we would keep calling him that once he was born, but it didn't fit him and was quickly dropped.

Let me know if you need help coming up with outlandish and completely unsuitable ethnic names.

tm

Playing Ketchup
 

1. I saw in writing somewhere this week the phrase "Oscar winning actor Ben Affleck." File that one under "highly misleading."

2. Atticus and Fufu: The Girl on the Bridge (La fille sur le pont) is the best knife-throwing movie ever. Bar none.

3. Figures that in a draft 3 players deep, the Raptors would wind up with the fourth pick. Hope they trade it for someone who can help right away and help a healthy Vince, AD and Mo Pete get to the next level.

4. Sounds to me like the big hitters on this board will eventually learn one of golf's little truths, which is to slow your swing down and get a lot more consistentcy at the cost of a little less distance. I have a chance to play Southern Hills this weekend (going to a wedding in Oklahoma) so I today off to play one of LA's least fine public courses out in the valley. I scored an honest 92, which is about average for me. I hit my 5 irons 175, 6 irons 160, 7 irons 145, 8 irons 135, 9 irons 120, and pitching wedge about 100 (though I seem to be yanking or shanking everything with that particular club lately). I used to hit everything about 10 yards further, but have become much better and a little shorter. Of course, I also got fitted for my last set of Pings, which doesn't hurt.

In any event, my #1 tip for anyone who's shooting 100 and wants to get closer to 90 is LEAVE YOUR DRIVER AT HOME. I don't carry one anymore. I hit my 3 wood about 25 times per round though, with length off the tee varying from 200-250 (so much for consistency, but I never said I'm Annika).

Finally, my fiancee's family had a pet ferret they adopted in 1996. Her little brother named it Annika. She died three months ago, but I'm sure she was smiling today from ferret heaven. Good luck tomorrow, you crazy swede.

str(off to Tulsa)8.

Names and Stuff
 

When my wife was pregnant with our second, its pre-birth name was "Normal." After approx. 16 months outside the womb, he's now in the 95th percentile for weight and off the charts for height. Proud parents? You betcha. Best wishes to your budding family.

Renquist is now a bobble headed doll
 

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/US/05/18/o...st.doll.ap.jpg



Cnn Article

trading spaces marathon
 

... starting at noon on Monday.

And here's a link to an article where Ty dishes about the various designers (including a pic of a shirtless Ty, and his mus-cles) --

http://tv.zap2it.com/news/tvnewsdaily.html?31665

n(Hildi is an ADD person who doesn't even know she needs medication)cs

Top Cult Movies -- the list 11-35
 

I finally got around to reading the EW article.

Their criteria for cult status is: did poorly at box office, reborn on video, now part of "cultural Esperanto."

Shockingly, most of the films we mentioned made the list, and many of my favorite movies (Hard-Boiled, Friday) that I wouldn't have assigned cult status.

11. Five Deadly Venoms
12. Plan 9 from Outer Space
13. Brazil
14. Eraserhead
15. Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill!
16. The Warriors
17. Dazed and Confused
18. Hard-Boiled
19. Evil Dead II
20. The Mack
21. Pee Wee's Big Adventure
22. Un Chien Andalou
23. Akira
24. The Toxic Avenger
25. Willie Wonka
26. Stranger than Paradise
27. Dawn of the Dead
28. The Wiz
29. Clerks
30. The Harder they Come
31. Slap Shot
32. Re-Animator
33. Grey Gardens
34. The Big Lebowski
35. Withnail and I

to be continued . . .

retro lounge lizard is in
 

I would have called it something else, but here is a scary picture of Jessica Simpson's husband (Nick something from some boy band) --

http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Fashio...42,577,00.html

N(he's been punk'd)cs

Top Cult Movies -- the list 36-50
 

36. Showgirls
37. A Bucket of Blood
38. They Live
39. The Best of Everything
40. Barbarella
41. Heathers
42. Rushmore
43. Buckaroo Banzai
44. Love Streams
45. Superstar
46. Aguirre, the Wrath of God
47. Walking and Talking
48: Decline of Western Civ. II: the Metal Years
49. Friday
50. Faces of Death

They don't put Office Space on the list, but they include a three page story on its cult status.

str8 line: I have two friends who are extras in Office Space.

E/O

Tour Cast
 

Okay, the PGA Tourcast thing is up and running. It's kind of cool. They show little figures of the players and animate their shots. Swing and crowd noise. At 1:43 CT (her tee time, I believe), you can follow Annika (or any other player) on the course. Or you can go there now and replay her round yesterday, if you're curious.

http://www.real.com/partners/pgatour...rect&cpath=CNT

(And the cut line has shifted. It is now at +1. 86 players, including Annika at this point.)

TM

Top Cult Movies -- the list 36-50
 

How about Priscilla Queen of the Desert? That has cult status in the gay community down here...

n(oh, the costumes)cs

retro lounge lizard is in
 

He was such an ass in that episode. In fact, he was the biggest ass of anyone on the show.

Outside the house, he seemed reasonable, if pissed off. Inside, when he thought he couldn't be heard, he was angry and cursing.

Clearly, she married a real sweetheart.

More on yale
 

Here's an article http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?n..._id=7576&rfi=6

question to leagl or MR or Burger
 

I so wish Annika was going to be in the Open this year (which I will be attending -- sans Happy Gilmore reject garish chicken hat, I might add :D ). Though they've lengthened it, I don't recall Olympia Fields being all that long. Bet Vijay wouldn't drop out of that one if Annika showed up...

As for the internet dating issue, I think a mere dating service is not nearly lurid enough for this Board. A 'deposition' matching service with live Web Cams, now we're talking...

Xtina
 

Now, I can't explain why, but this particular phrase caused me to physically squirm -- it's so graphic. Very effective. I think the word "slice" kind of reminds me of paper cuts or something. Ouchie!

(To resurrect the "Jackass" conversation -- remember that paper cuts scene from the movie? I think that was one of the stunts that caused the cameraman to barf.)

More on yale
 

From the article:

"Bill Tafoya, a professor of criminal justice at the University of New Haven and a retired FBI agent, said he suspects the bomber may have acted out of revenge for some perceived wrong.

"It could be a (law) student who didn’t get a grade they wanted"
----

Good thing Professor Sherlock retired from the FBI, because last I checked, Yale Law School didn't give grades.

not7yS

question to leagl or MR or Burger
 

Q: So Leagl...what did you do today?

A: Oh, I facilitated people flying across the country so they could fuck each other. Further, I arranged for people to view said fucking on a web cam. I also made money as a result of this.

Q: So....you're a pimp and you direct porn?

A: Basically.

Q: That education...really paid off for you didn't it?

A: My parents are very proud.

question to leagl or MR or Burger
 

OK, a (kinky) happy medium, then?

Timely Joke
 

A guy who has been stranded on a desert island for 10 years, sees an unusual speck on the horizon. "It's not a ship," he thinks to himself. As the speck gets closer and closer he begins to rule out the possibilities of a small boat, then even a raft. In a few minutes a drop-dead gorgeous blonde woman emerges from the surf wearing a wet suit and scuba gear.

She approaches the shocked guy and says, "Tell me, how long has it been since you've had a cigarette?

"Ten years," he replies. With that, she reaches over and unzips a waterproof pocket on her left sleeve and pulls out a pack, he takes one, lights it and takes a long drag. "Man oh man!! Is that ever good!"

"And how long has it been since you've had a shot of whiskey?" she asks.

Trembling he replies "Ten years!" She reaches over and unzips a pocket on her right sleeve pulls out a flask and hands it to him. He opens the flask, takes a long swig and exclaims "That's absolutely fantastic!"

At this point she begins to slowly unzip the long zipper that runs down the front of her wet suit, looks at him seductively and asks, "How long has it been since you've played around?"

With tears in his eyes the guy falls to his knees and cries...










"Oh sweet Jesus! Don't tell me you've got golf clubs in there too!"

Thurgreed(probably a very old joke)Marshall

Top Cult Movies -- the list 36-50
 

I recommend Aguirre to people all the time. It ties with Fitzcarraldo for the quintessetial Klaus-Kinski-Man's-Struggle-With-Himself-While-He-Self-destructs-and-descends-into-madness movie. Actually, all Klaus Kinski movies, except Delta Force, are like this b/c Kinski was insane and therefore the descent was more like walking into sunken living room, but they are all classics.


Ct(nosferatu, anyone?)D

question to leagl or MR or Burger
 

Joking aside, I'll give some thought to the idea.

I have to consider how much time it would take to implement something versus how much fun it would be watching you people write crazy ads.

I am not inclined to add any major functionality right now, as MR already said, and for the same reasons.

But perhaps we can rig something simple. Even just a special passworded forum that people can access perhaps.

question to leagl or MR or Burger
 

I think we've stumbled across the solution to the funding problem for our little site.

question to leagl or MR or Burger
 

That, and to my student loans.

Top Cult Movies -- the list 36-50
 

I gotta tell you - I own both versions and the remake isn't half as creepy as the Murnau/Schreck silent version.

Speaking of creepy German impressionistic silent flicks, hey BRC, do you still have my Cabinet of Dr. Caligari DVD?

not7yS

Top Cult Movies -- the list 36-50
 

Delta Force with Barry Bostwick?

Top Cult Movies -- the list 36-50
 

Best quote from the article re: Aguirre:

"Notoriously short-fused and more than a little loco in the cabeza, the actor quit the film until Herzog threatened to shoot him."

Now, that's drama.

FB Book/CD/DVD Club
 

Just picked up The Devil in the White City: Murder, Magic and Madness at the Fair That Changed America by Erik Larson...

A very good read, especially for anyone with connections to Chicago. It very effectively juxtaposes the optimism and wonderment surrounding the Chicago World's Columbian Exposition of 1893 with the horrors of a serial killer who preyed on scores of innocent people who attended it. Gives you the same creepy feeling reading it as The Alienist, only its NON-FICTION...


On the CD front, enjoyed the new self-titled CD by The Thorns, a trio composed of Matthew Sweet, Pete Droge and Shaun Mullins. Definitely not cutting edge, but the mostly-acoustic sound and three-part harmonies are reminiscent of the Byrds, the Eagles, and Crosby, Stills and Nash, with a touch of Brian Wilson. Very pleasant summer listening...

Top Cult Movies -- the list 36-50
 

Actually, I just googled and saw that it wasn't Delta Force, but that other Golan/Globus classic, Operation Thunderbolt. KK did several masterpiece movies (with Herzog) but also did a lot of shitty movies if you paid him well enough--and wasn't embarrassed to admit they were shitty and he was a greedy bastard. I think he turned down Spielberg for Raiders of the Lost Ark, though.

Top Cult Movies -- the list 36-50
 

The Documentary "My Best Friend" has a couple of his legendary tantrums--including one where he is screaming at the top of his lungs, threatening to quit and kick someone's ass because he didn't like the catering. Herzog denied holding a gun to his head during the movie, but did admit to going to his house in the middle of the night to shoot him but being chased away by Kinski's guard dog.

Big Timmy moment
 

I believe that is an example of German Expressionism, not Impressionism. I don't want to think what German Impressionism would look like.

Big Timmy moment
 

Yeah, you're right...I'm wrong.

Blow me.

not7y(Go Senators)S

Names and Stuff
 

You could use "Kuato." But that would provoke a lot of questions from people who've never seen "Total Recall."

I can't be drunk, I'm still drinking
 

from the smoking gun --

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/rutkowski1.html

[spree - story about idiot hit-and-run drunk driver]