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Atticus Grinch 06-03-2013 05:53 PM
Re: Your daddy's rich and your mama's good-looking.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 480058)
I think we're generally in agreement on this topic--that is, except for that last clause. Cops need to be continually trained and discliplined when they shoot the fuck out of people who aren't carrying guns. The fact that they know it will probably be a justified shooting if something is found in the hands of whoever they shot, I think, leads to trigger-happy cops. That's not to say that a cop, filled with adrenaline, who legitimately thinks whoever they have encountered has a gun and is about to shoot should always be able to distinguish between a real gun and a fake one or a wallet or whatever. Humans are humans. But they should be scared as hell that the hammer will come down hard whenever they do shoot the fuck out of someone who is completely unarmed.
Then we are in complete agreement. What I mean was "just telling cops to do a better job" is not a winning solution. It has to include not letting any child incapable of realizing what their conduct looks like to others run around play-acting in a way that makes others fearful. That includes cops; that includes other kids. If I had my druthers more kids would be taught about the utter fucking seriousness of firearms, rather than have this bizarro world where kids play with toy guns and then accidentally kill each other with real ones they come across. But I don't have a magic solution. I own zero guns of any type but am seriously considering having my kids take a gun safety class so they don't act foolishly.

Then again, I gave my nieces a walk-through of what to do when pulled over by a cop, because if they don't have the muscle-memory and presence of mind to behave in a way the officer predicts and understands to be harmless, they could wind up in a sad state of affairs. Nobody should have to boot-lick, but nobody ever taught me that rummaging through the glovebox as the officer approaches might be misinterpreted.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 06-03-2013 05:58 PM
Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 480055)
Schools are a nearly perfect mirror of the neighborhood from which they draw, but parents believe they can pick the "best" school for their child based on test data* like they're Michelin stars. I know PhDs in hard sciences who brag to me about how they got their child into the school with the highest test scores in their school district, which is a bit like picking a restaurant because fat people go there.
While I agree with everything here, I think we draw different conclusions.

The schools in my town are perfect reflections of the town - insipidly suburban, unintellectual, focused on scoring instead of substance. The fact that they are mirrors IS the criticism. The person who focusing on the best test scores would like my town. That is why the schools suck and are oppressively stale.

One of my kids is at a nerd factory, where their idea of sports are yoga, ballroom dancing, and fencing; when she had a sleepover party with a large co-ed group of them, I checked in on them at 3 in the morning and they were arguing about Shakespeare. Another is at a school immersed in artsiness and outdoor stuff; she likes to come home covered in mud with a lot of energy. The schools are more a mirror of them than "the neighborhood".

Everybody should do their own thing for the kids, but avoid a lot fo the same thing as all the neihbors. Because the dictatorship of the majority inevitably celebrates the bland and mediocre.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 06-03-2013 06:04 PM
Re: Your daddy's rich and your mama's good-looking.
 
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 480059)
Then we are in complete agreement. What I mean was "just telling cops to do a better job" is not a winning solution. It has to include not letting any child incapable of realizing what their conduct looks like to others run around play-acting in a way that makes others fearful. That includes cops; that includes other kids. If I had my druthers more kids would be taught about the utter fucking seriousness of firearms, rather than have this bizarro world where kids play with toy guns and then accidentally kill each other with real ones they come across. But I don't have a magic solution. I own zero guns of any type but am seriously considering having my kids take a gun safety class so they don't act foolishly.

Then again, I gave my nieces a walk-through of what to do when pulled over by a cop, because if they don't have the muscle-memory and presence of mind to behave in a way the officer predicts and understands to be harmless, they could wind up in a sad state of affairs. Nobody should have to boot-lick, but nobody ever taught me that rummaging through the glovebox as the officer approaches might be misinterpreted.
I blame the kids whose parents take them to NRA conventions to learn that real guns are just toys. Shit ya, what fun, let's go play with our AR-15s!

Officers pulling over young women usually aren't looking to get boots licked, though, right? I hope you told your neices to call their lawyer uncle and put him on speaker phone so they have a witness to what is said when after the trooper knocks on the window.

Adder 06-03-2013 06:04 PM
Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 480060)
While I agree with everything here, I think we draw different conclusions.

The schools in my town are perfect reflections of the town - insipidly suburban, unintellectual, focused on scoring instead of substance. The fact that they are mirrors IS the criticism. The person who focusing on the best test scores would like my town. That is why the schools suck and are oppressively stale.

One of my kids is at a nerd factory, where their idea of sports are yoga, ballroom dancing, and fencing; when she had a sleepover party with a large co-ed group of them, I checked in on them at 3 in the morning and they were arguing about Shakespeare. Another is at a school immersed in artsiness and outdoor stuff; she likes to come home covered in mud with a lot of energy. The schools are more a mirror of them than "the neighborhood".

Everybody should do their own thing for the kids, but avoid a lot fo the same thing as all the neihbors. Because the dictatorship of the majority inevitably celebrates the bland and mediocre.
This post needs a first world problems hashtag.

Which is not to say it's wrong.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 06-03-2013 06:06 PM
Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 480062)
This post needs a first world problems hashtag.

Which is not to say it's wrong.
I thought ya'all just mentally attached that hashtag to all my posts.

Atticus Grinch 06-03-2013 06:32 PM
Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 480060)
While I agree with everything here, I think we draw different conclusions.

The schools in my town are perfect reflections of the town - insipidly suburban, unintellectual, focused on scoring instead of substance. The fact that they are mirrors IS the criticism. The person who focusing on the best test scores would like my town. That is why the schools suck and are oppressively stale.

One of my kids is at a nerd factory, where their idea of sports are yoga, ballroom dancing, and fencing; when she had a sleepover party with a large co-ed group of them, I checked in on them at 3 in the morning and they were arguing about Shakespeare. Another is at a school immersed in artsiness and outdoor stuff; she likes to come home covered in mud with a lot of energy. The schools are more a mirror of them than "the neighborhood".

Everybody should do their own thing for the kids, but avoid a lot fo the same thing as all the neihbors. Because the dictatorship of the majority inevitably celebrates the bland and mediocre.
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and file this with "Shut up about what's 'wrong' with the public schools."

Hank Chinaski 06-03-2013 07:21 PM
Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 480064)
Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and file this with "Shut up about what's 'wrong' with the public schools."
On the plus side, somewhere there is a public school board where GGG doesn't show up for the meetings.

Hank Chinaski 06-03-2013 07:49 PM
Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 480065)
On the plus side, somewhere there is a public school board where GGG doesn't show up for the meetings.
On the other flip side, there is a FB group for grads of my hs and the average posts reads sort of like this: "Remember when you knew your getting the paddel from the princapull?

Atticus Grinch 06-03-2013 07:56 PM
Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 480066)
On the other flip side, there is a FB group for grads of my hs and the average posts reads sort of like this: "Remember when you knew your getting the paddel from the princapull?
There's no such thing as an "average" post. There is such a thing as the mode, i.e. the most frequently appearing value in the set. In the case of your high school's FB page, the mode post is "I'm appearing Friday night at The Moth," whatever that means.

Adder 06-03-2013 10:51 PM
Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 480067)
There's no such thing as an "average" post. There is such a thing as the mode, i.e. the most frequently appearing value in the set. In the case of your high school's FB page, the mode post is "I'm appearing Friday night at The Moth," whatever that means.
We need a like button.

Icky Thump 06-03-2013 11:18 PM
Re: Criminal Law 101
 
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Originally Posted by Gattigap (Post 480046)
Still a popular pastime, it appears.

Above the Law
That's it. My fucking teacher transferred.

Hank Chinaski 06-04-2013 07:48 AM
Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 480067)
There's no such thing as an "average" post. There is such a thing as the mode, i.e. the most frequently appearing value in the set. In the case of your high school's FB page, the mode post is "I'm appearing Friday night at The Moth," whatever that means.
You're a Choate Rosemary Hall grad?

Replaced_Texan 06-04-2013 11:22 AM
Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
Suicide fucking sucks. Dammit.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 06-04-2013 11:39 AM
Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 480067)
There's no such thing as an "average" post. There is such a thing as the mode, i.e. the most frequently appearing value in the set. In the case of your high school's FB page, the mode post is "I'm appearing Friday night at The Moth," whatever that means.

Outable!

Hank Chinaski 06-04-2013 12:04 PM
Re: Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 480071)
Suicide fucking sucks. Dammit.
2. What happened?


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