Jim Carrey Almighty
 

After starting the rant about him Friday, I happened to see an old SNL hosted by Carrey this weekend. He's very good at what he does, and was obviously much more talented than everyone else around him on that show. He did a nice bit imitating Jimmy Stewart imitating himself. (I had to stop watching, but that was the fault of the SNL writers, another story altogether.)

But it seems like he's too pleased with himself, and that he does the same dreck over and over again. He kinda reminds me of a federal judge, in that he makes so much money that it seems like his personality has been spoiled by it.

Guns Galore
 

Are you being ironic in an attempt to deflect your own ignorance? That is the cheapest form of condescension and places you fairly in the lowest common denominator.

Guns Galore
 

Oh for gods sake, we've done this. I acknowledged that my difference of opinion with Soup came from the fact that it seemed we had different assumptions about what "a whole lotta guns" or whatever he said was. I said his opinion was stupid, not him. And if he actually meant that it's okay in his opinion to own one gun, but not to own more than one gun, then I stand by that accusation. But he clearly didn't mean that, so we were talking past each other. And now I have to talk past you too. Jesus wept, let Soup fight his own e-mail battles, he's well equipped to do it, which is more than I can say about you.

Jim Carrey Almighty
 

I am not a big fan of Jim Carrey, but I crack up at Dumb and Dumber no matter how many times I see it. Does anyone know whether the sequel (I think it's called "Dumb and Dumberer") stars Jim Carrey? I couldn't tell from the brief look I had at the commercial. That other guy (Jeff Daniels?) is definitely NOT in it -- but I couldn't tell if the other one was JC or not.

Jim Carrey Almighty
 

No, it's a prequel --- Harry and Lloyd when they met in high school. It has neither Carrey nor (thank God) Daniels. Here's the IMDB entry.

Guns Galore
 

I am certain that Soup feels relieved to once again have your valued praise instead of your inflammoratory, yet childish, insults. Your insipid name calling along with your brand of I-am-right-even-when-I-am-wrong-because-I-am-always-right banter surely must have been the inspiration for your moniker. Barely_legal, indeed.

My hands are beginning to feel unclean as I begin my journey down the slippery slope along that one way road to Lowest Common Denominatorville. I only meant to point out the hypocrisy of calling someone "stupid" for being "ignorant' while crying that the community had become too judgmental.

Lastly, Jesus has not "wept" "for god's sakes".

Jim Carrey Almighty
 

No, he's not. The movie is expected to suck.

Guns Galore
 

I went to LS in a coastal city, having come from the patch, and found the same thing. And I, too, came from heavily suburban patch, not the back woods. This could be outable, but I remember having to explain to my torts class once how bird hunting differed from deer hunting in terms of weaponry and technique. I've never been hunting in my life but ... damn. (I had another patchy friend who had to explain deer platforms and why they are often illegal.) City people can be pretty dumb.

I can't cite it or link to it, either, but I recall that these are both correct - a gun in the home is much, much more likely to be used by a member of the household against another member of the household, either intentionally or accidentally, than against an intruder, and the rate of "friendly fire" is much, much higher for handguns owned by people who only own a handgun than for households that own rifles or actually collect guns (part of the reason being that sole handgun owners tend to be suburban know-nothings who get them for "personal defense," whereas rifles tend to be owned by hunters who have much greater respect for and education about gun safety and use, as do most collectors - the "wacko" factor doesn't seem to come close to the "idiot" factor).

However, the same (that you are more likely to be hurt yourself or your loved ones) doesn't appear to be true of carrying a concealed handgun, per the federal violent crime stats.

Anyhow, it's hard to argue that gun safety classes, or at least a safety exam, shouldn't be mandatory for getting a gun license.

My FiL collects, both antiques and modern guns, both rifles and handguns. I wouldn't let my kids in his house, frankly, because he classes the WWII vintage handguns as "antiques" and keeps them in display cases rather than locked up with the "real" guns he uses for hunting, pest control and general fucking around. He doesn't keep them loaded, at least, but so long as he insists the Queen Anne dueling pistols will still fire I'm not happy that they are in a mickey-mouse glass case. But with enough followers to hold them, he has enough guns to defend his property from poachers, the local police and probably a small national guard unit just about forever.

I've never heard of that, either. My current NYC lease has no such provision.

Guns Galore
 

If you want to continue to just hurl barbs instead of actually arguing a point, you can toss some insulting pms my way. I'm not going to waste the board's time trading insults with either a new poster who is trying to make a name for emself, or with a sock who has a grudge against me but is too cowardly to post under em's own moniker..

Coming in July to a TV near you
 

NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) -- NBC-owned Bravo will court viewers this summer with American television's first primetime gay-themed reality dating series.

Similar in format to ABC's "The Bachelor," "Boy Meets Boy" features an eligible man looking for love in a pool of 15 potential mates. But in a twist worthy of the bogus baron on Fox's "Joe Millionaire," some of the suitors are actually heterosexual men who were paid by the program to pretend to be gay -- unbeknownst to the eligible bachelor.



Full article here.

Guns Galore
 

This is definitely true. The gun supporters will argue that this does not take account of the times that a gun is "used" to scare people off without being fired, or (I suppose) the peace of mind that comes from having a gun in the house (although said peace of mind is illusory given what BRC points out, unless you are more scared of a stranger than having a family member shot, which many people are, irrational though that may seem to be).

Not wanting to start an argument re this. There are two sides to the argument, but BRC has the facts right.

T. (like to shoot guns, and have had jobs where I used them) S.

Guns Galore
 

I thought the standard NRA response to the stat about household guns being used against household occupants was that a surprising number of those incidents are documented self-defense cases involving domestic violence.

In other words, you're shooting at a member of your household, but it ain't exactly accidental.

I've never seen anything to back it up, but it's a pretty good sur-rebuttal, if true, to gun control arguments.

Guns Galore
 

Actually, b-l, I am entertained by this back and forth. I can't speak for the board, but I would like to see the two of you carry on a bit longer. We are here to waste time, after all, and if the board can survive the golf debate, it can certainly survive this.

Further, since I believe JJLC is a sock, the more she or he posts, the more likely somebody else (not I, because I am no sock buster) is to figure out who she or he really is.

Guns Galore
 

"I can't cite it or link to it, either, but I recall that these are both correct - a gun in the home is much, much more likely to be used by a member of the household against another member of the household, either intentionally or accidentally, than against an intruder, and the rate of "friendly fire" is much, much higher for handguns owned by people who only own a handgun than for households that own rifles or actually collect guns (part of the reason being that sole handgun owners tend to be suburban know-nothings who get them for "personal defense," whereas rifles tend to be owned by hunters who have much greater respect for and education about gun safety and use, as do most collectors - the "wacko" factor doesn't seem to come close to the "idiot" factor). "

Perhaps those in multiple gun households are in a better position to return fire, leading to a MAD type of family bliss.

Guns Galore
 

Did I not make a point? That business about your hypocrisy? Did that go over your righteous tiara? I will state for the record, for not the first time, but the last time, that I simply posted to point out that it was rude to call Soup stupid. Especially whence you were carping about the general judgmental atmosphere about the board.

Now, for your contention that I am either a or b, I query why there cannot be a c, d, e and f. I am not for you or against you. I don't know you beyond your love of reality television and have no ill will or malice towards you. I have no love for you either. I am merely unimpressed. Now let me be. My point is salient, and has been elucidated and repeated succinctly enough to have gotten across at least twice.

Guns Galore
 

A bit outdated but a source of interesting facts and statistics: http://www.justfacts.com/gun_control.htm

Firearms make me nervous. I didn't grow up around them, no hunters among friends or family, had cousins who served in Vietnam and they are all ANTI-gun. Personally, I would not want one in my home, but you can have one in your home. I am in favor of strong licensing and safety classes and re-testing/re-certifying every few years rather than automatic renewal of the permit.

Anne
(Then again I think we should take a road test every few years too. There are some really bad drivers out there who shouldn't be allowed to take the cahr to Harvahd Yahd.)

Guns Galore
 

I agree, but I've always thought that this is because the people who would fail the tests are old, and no one wants to be taking old peoples' cars from them. My grandmother should have stopped driving long ago, and is a real hazard, but she sweettalks cops whenever she deals with them, which seems to be disturbingly often. Why the authorities tolerate this, I don't know.

Guns Galore
 

And don't even get me started on her gun collection . . . .

Guns Galore
 

It doesn't seem possible to post actual statistics from articles, but here is a link to a public health professor's page with information about some studies on handguns and injuries.

David Hemenway at Harvard's page

"Firearm injuries are a current focus of Dr. Hemenway's research. In the United States, almost 90 people per day are killed with guns. Yet comparatively little research has been directed toward understanding and reducing gun injuries. Dr. Hemenway is studying the effects of gun carrying; how guns are stored and whether training can improve storage practices; the external costs and benefits of gun ownership; the use of guns in self-defense; gun use among adolescents; guns on college campuses; the relationship between gun prevalence and homicide, suicide and unintentional gun deaths; and the effects of changes in the legal drinking age on youth violence. "

Hemenway is an economist. Anon because I know him personally.

edited to fix code. e/o

Guns Galore
 

Gee this was fun. really really fun.

I will also point out for the last time, but not for the first time, that I never called Soup stupid, I called his opinion stupid, and when I realized that his opinion wasn't what I thought it was, I backed off. And he backed off (and was nice enough not to even ask me for an apology, which I probably owed him). If you can't see the difference b/w me calling somebody's opinion stupid, and somebody else calling 10 million people the lowest common denominator of society because of their personal entertainment preferences, then I am confident that you are as stupid as the opinion that I thought Soup held. What's your deal? Did I steal your boyfriend or refuse to fuck you* or something?

but I like my "righteous tiara" and I will henceforth wear it with pride. Can anyone find me an avatar of a righteous tiara?

*for the record, I will point out that I'm not referring to slave here -- he never asked so I never had the chance to refuse -- and he'll never know if I would have.....

edited b/c my righteous tiara does not bestow upon its wearer the gift of proper grammar usage

Guns Galore
 

My theory: guilt and fear. Taking away gramma's driving privileges is one step away from sticking gramma in a nursing home. Many of the persons in authority have already done so or are contemplating doing so; therefore, having already robbed one senior of her dignity and independence, they are loath to do it again. They are also praying their kids won't do it to them.

You can call me Ray of Sunshine.

Guns Galore
 

I do. Give me the address and I'll break the news to the geezer.

If someone can't drive up to par, they should not be allowed to have a license. Drunk drivers get their licenses taken away because they don't drive up to par, and so should old people (or anyone else who is a holy terror on wheels). At least drunk drivers sober up from time to time. Old people are old and slow regardless of Old Fashioned consumption.

Guns Galore
 

While any reasonably coordinated moron with a short temper can blow someone's head off without being close enough to face the consequences, I imagine that it would be more of a psychological deterrent for some people to really have to look someone in the eye close-up to kill them, as with stabbing or other methods. And aside from the second amendment 'you survivalist gun-nut/you-damn-lefty-wussbag' debate, isn't cutting the number of completely stupid deaths over trivial crap the point?

Christ, buy a Rottweiler or even a pathetic little toy dog with a big voice--it scared off an intruder at my friend's recently, sight unseen.

Guns Galore
 

So you think we should let the geezers* drive and place the rest of us at risk?

*Not all old people are bad drivers, but if someone is contemplating taking driving privileges away, that's another story.

statistics
 

Lets take a look shall we?

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/weapons.htm

A report by the DOJ.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/frmdth.htm

Chart detailing age, and whether it was intentional, unintentional or unknown.

I was chatting with someone earlier today via im, and I was thinking about what troubles me so much about guns. This will seem simplistic I am sure but to me, the biggest problem I have with them is how easy it is, in the heat of anger, or the despair of depression, to lose control for just a moment, grab a gun and end a life.

There are all sorts of ways to kill yourself or someone else, no doubt, but I cannot imagine anything as sudden and quick as a gun. Especially a gun that isn't locked up in some way, so all you have to do is reach into a drawer, grab it and pull.

My reaction is visceral I am sure, but it is how I feel about it.

Guns Galore
 

I, for one, agreed with your comment on judging people for seeing a movie. I mean, who cares? What makes tennis classier than NASCAR? Must we hate someone because they like Dave Matthews Band? May I scoff at people who visit last year's "in" Caribbean island? Is Morton's a "chain" restaurant, and if so, may I make snide comments about people who eat there?

When you're done with your righteous tiara, I'd like to borrow it, if that's okay, to go with my Lawyer Platform shoes.

Guns Galore
 

This has not been about me, but about you. I do not have a deal. Your deal, apparently, is paranoia. Had you not sniped at me and invited comment, you would not have gotten comment from me. I previously had no opinion of you one way or the other as I, at best, quickly glance at the reality posts Nobody else has demeaned me, especially in such meaningless childish fashion. What is that saying? Grasping at straws? Which leads me into . . .

Are you invoking the (judgmental) community (you recently eschewed) because your argument was weak and you have been exposed for the whiny namecalling child that you are? Are we in junior high where there is more power in numbers than in salient points?

What is the point of this comment? More rubbing elbows with the eliterati for support in this tedious flamefest? I cannot imagine you are truly disinviting slave to your gangbang.

Good day. I do not have any remaining time for this childish nonsense. Back to the daycare center with you. If you tear your tiara, I understand Burger King has some more in stock. Hopefully you can fit one over your giant head.

Righteous!
 

This one has matching slippers.

http://www.mrsmay.com/images/product...cess/tiara.jpg

This one is pretty standard.
http://www.starwedd.com/images/T1506S.jpg

This is the truly righteous one, IMHO. How do you look in a wonder woman outfit? Edited to add: I am not trying to pick you up.

http://toychest.diamondcomics.com/to...oman_props.jpg

Guns Galore
 

Which makes the sweet-talking completely unnecessary.

Guns Galore
 

Yep, I definitely refused to fuck you.

L-P -- you can borrow the tiara if you want, but it might not fit on your head -- apparently I stretched it all out. Too bad I can't do that with bras.

Guns Galore
 

Where did I say that?

Guns Galore
 

You didn't. But you said that people are loathe to take away driving privileges from old people because of guilt and fear and because of the slippery slope into a nursing home.

I was just pointing out that I am much more fearful of the damage a poor driver could do to emself and others by being allowed to remain on the road.

Guns Galore
 

I think a righteous tiara would suit you well as an avatar as it would be an example of your use of another's idea to make yourself look clever and original. The irony is that your very use of such an image would prove the opposite. However the avatar is your chance to have a picture be worth a thousand words in describing yourself, so it would work, though perhaps not as well as a photo of a locker with Justin Timberlake's topless bod posted to it.

Righteous!
 

Damn, you're fast. Leagl is going to resize the truly righteous one for me. I will miss Clay's dorky elfin possibly-gay countenance, but he's a big fat loser now, so he can't be my avatar.

Guns Galore
 

Actually, I would prefer a crossbow to either the gun or the dog. Everyone is right when they say guns are too easy - both for the shooter and the target. I have visions of shooting the arrow down the hallway and hearing the THUMP as the bastard who broke into MY home and is threatening the safety of MY family is impaled and stuck to the wall where I can casually torment him until he dies.

The husband will not allow me to indulge in the crossbow fantasy. He is a cop so we have more than one gun in the house (apparently meeting definition of nutty that some people here hold). He protests the crossbow because while his vest would protect him if I shot him with a gun, the arrow would go through the vest and kill him (although it might be deflected by the center-mass knife plate if I struck him dead-on). Apparently, he fears that I may mistake him for an intruder someday --- hehehehehe.

Our son occasionally helps daddy clean his guns. The guns are supposed to be locked up but hubby regularly forgets and just leaves them on a high shelf in our dressing closet. Son has never been knwn to play with the guns. I have shot guns and it is kinda cool but not something I would do regularly. I like the smell of gunpowder -- kinda sexy.

On a final note, I am told by those who know that being shot sucks ass. Doing the shooting is apparently not all that pleasurable either unless you are a criminal who is not later caught and brought to justice.

edited to add that having a live-in bodyguard is one of the many plusses of marrying a cop -- don't forget handcuffs and being able to drive however the hell you please without fear of a ticket.

Guns Galore
 

I thought you were done with me? You must really be in love with me to shower me with all this attention. I'm sorry, but it's just not going to work out for us. I don't date cranky old geezers.

I'm glad you approve of my proposed new avatar. I hope Justin likes it too. Justin, if you're reading this, call me!

Guns Galore
 

Why not institute a mandatory driving or vision/reflex test every year or two after age 65 or 70 or whenever the Association of Eye Care Bigshots tell us our sight and response times start to suck?

Of course, I will get that age and whack the stupid young'un behind the DMV counter with my bag in rage at the presumption that I'm incompetent, but at least I won't plow into him in the parking lot if he grabs my keys from me first.

Guns Galore
 

I believe that a number of states have tried to pass such legislation but it was always shot down by the AARP-set as descriminatory against old people. I was run over by an old lady who claimed to never have seen me. Because of this wacky old bitch who should not have been driving I live with constant pain and had to give up certain sporting-type activities. These old fuckers are becoming a majority and they refuse to sit in the corner and decompose so watch out.

Guns Galore
 

I am a fan of the crossbow too. We have one hanging on our living room wall. Unfortunately it is purely ornamental (although looks somewhat scary).

Guns Galore
 

You are very humorous. Do you constantly make people laugh in real life as well? Enjoy the avatar and let me know if I can help you be original and creative again. I understand that it is difficult to throw childish tantrums and be clever and funny at the same time as I have children. You have the PM address.

P.S. Is Lawyer Princess your mother?