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dtb 03-12-2004 05:22 PM

Leggo My Preggo
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TexLex
They really should have baby spots too - as much if a hassle as it is to waddle around when pregnant, I think it is even more of a pain to drag a baby (and its luggage) along.
I have never seen the pregnancy spots -- but I have seen the parking spots designated for those with infants near the door at the grocery store.

Verrrrrry interesting.

Atticus Grinch 03-12-2004 05:34 PM

Leggo My Preggo
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pretermitted_child
Yes, and I feel horrible about it.

But I simply remember my favorite things,
and then I don't feel so bad.
That movie taught me that the demoralizing aspects of living under a totalitarian state can be counteracted by thinking about kitten whiskers and crisp apple strudels.

It got me through the Reagan administration.

lookingformarket 03-12-2004 08:36 PM

Subway Seats
 
Quote:

Originally posted by viet_mom
I can't believe you check out pregnant women's asses.
Some pregnant women have nice asses. You can't tell which ones unless you check out pregnant women's asses as a blanket rule.

Hank Chinaski 03-13-2004 01:51 PM

Leggo My Preggo
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
That movie taught me that the demoralizing aspects of living under a totalitarian state can be counteracted by thinking about kitten whiskers and crisp apple strudels.

It got me through the Reagan administration.
that had to be getting less effective by '86 or '87 though, right? bet you're glad you got West Wing now.

pretermitted_child 03-13-2004 03:55 PM

Leggo My Preggo
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
bet you're glad you got West Wing now.
After the Whiffenpoofs performed in an episode, the West Wing has probably become unwatchable for Atticus.

bilmore 03-15-2004 12:30 AM

Just a quick note to cheer the new and soon-to-be-new parents:

More stitches today, and a possible concussion.

That's five ER trips in two months. (Not all one kid.)

And the boys are even worse . . .

NW Native 03-15-2004 10:19 AM

Bilmore's med insurance
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore

That's five ER trips in two months. (Not all one kid.)

And the boys are even worse . . .
First, my sympathies - trips to emergency are traumatic for everyone.
Second, WHAT were the kids doing to achieve all these trips in such a short time??
Native son took one ambulance ride at 6 weeks old and that scared me enough to put him in a bubble the rest of his life.

Bilmore, time to dish the dirt.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 03-15-2004 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Just a quick note to cheer the new and soon-to-be-new parents:

More stitches today, and a possible concussion.

That's five ER trips in two months. (Not all one kid.)

And the boys are even worse . . .
Sounds like hockey season in the great white north.

Don't worry, the season's almost over. (And then it's time for horseback riding....).

I sympathize.

bilmore 03-15-2004 12:07 PM

Bilmore's med insurance
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NW Native
First, my sympathies - trips to emergency are traumatic for everyone.
Second, WHAT were the kids doing to achieve all these trips in such a short time??
Native son took one ambulance ride at 6 weeks old and that scared me enough to put him in a bubble the rest of his life.

Bilmore, time to dish the dirt.
Hmmm . . .

(You're not social services, right?)

Last five:

1. Snowboarding - collision with rail (broken arm, stitches)
2. Wrestling with friend - collision with concrete wall corner (stitches).
3. Snowboarding - collision with other snowboarder (stitches).
4. Brothers wrestling on stairs (broken arm.)
5. Found old barbed wire fence in the woods (stitches).

Trips to the ER are no longer traumatic. One son in particular can now look at his wounds and accurately estimate the number of stitches needed, how many pokes with the novocaine needle, etc. We now know to bring books, homework, etc. with us. When a son recently spent a weekend at a family friend's new cabin, we gave them a housewarming present of a big first aid kit. They laughed. And then, they got the chance to use it that weekend.

lawyer_princess 03-15-2004 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Just a quick note to cheer the new and soon-to-be-new parents:

More stitches today, and a possible concussion.

That's five ER trips in two months. (Not all one kid.)

And the boys are even worse . . .
Aren't a few of them in casts? How can a kid in a cast be reckless enough to need stitches? Have you heard from CPS yet?

On the parking lot issue--
The only pregger spots I ever saw were at Babies R Us. After the kids were born I looked for spaces near the cart corral, so I could get rid of the cart without leaving the baby alone in the car.

lawyer_princess 03-15-2004 12:09 PM

Slow on the uptake
 
Should have read farther.

bilmore 03-15-2004 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Sounds like hockey season in the great white north.
I've always told my MIL (the hockey fanatic) that hockey's too physical and violent, and that I don't want my kids constantly injured.

I'm losing my credibility on that.

bilmore 03-15-2004 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lawyer_princess
Aren't a few of them in casts? How can a kid in a cast be reckless enough to need stitches
Two had matching casts for a bit. Didn't slow 'em down at all. One broke his cast twice in various sport activities.

I have active kids, I think.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 03-15-2004 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Two had matching casts for a bit. Didn't slow 'em down at all. One broke his cast twice in various sport activities.

I have active kids, I think.
Take them Kayaking much?

(sorry, someone had to say it)

NW Native 03-15-2004 12:40 PM

Bilmore's med insurance
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
List
Trips to the ER are no longer traumatic. ....
My sympathies again. Native Son is also an 'active child'. In fact, that's what his grandma calls him 'thee' active child. Fortunately, except for the virus at 6 weeks, he's also very lucky (knock, knock). He LIKES the dangerous/defensive positions (goalie, catcher) where he gets charged into.

P.S. Native Son's ER visit was for the same virus that killed my sister's first child at 8 weeks and put my mother in the hospital for a week. I never want to see the inside of an ambulance again.

bold_n_brazen 03-16-2004 03:47 PM

New Shoes
 
The Brazenette started walking a few weeks ago.

Today, we went for new shoes. She got some very cute white baby shoes, with little pink and purple flowers.

Can someone please explain why these shoes had the unfortunate effect of making her scream her pretty little head off, as if she were being beaten with them, rather than having them placed upon her dainty little feet?

Atticus Grinch 03-16-2004 04:04 PM

New Shoes
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
The Brazenette started walking a few weeks ago.

Today, we went for new shoes. She got some very cute white baby shoes, with little pink and purple flowers.

Can someone please explain why these shoes had the unfortunate effect of making her scream her pretty little head off, as if she were being beaten with them, rather than having them placed upon her dainty little feet?
There's a school of thought that says that development of walking skills is better without shoes in the early stages. To the extent you can avoid them (i.e., when in moderately hygenic conditions), do. After all, shoes are a pretty recent invention, evolution-wise. She's probably freaking out that she can't feel her soles anymore.

For all crawling through early walking stages, the Grinches recommend Robeez. They're real leather, machine washable, adaptable to both crawling and walking, and extremely durable. They're soft-soled, which helps kids learn to balance. Plus, they're Canadian!

bold_n_brazen 03-16-2004 04:08 PM

New Shoes
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
There's a school of thought that says that development of walking skills is better without shoes in the early stages. To the extent you can avoid them (i.e., when in moderately hygenic conditions), do. After all, shoes are a pretty recent invention, evolution-wise. She's probably freaking out that she can't feel her soles anymore.

For all crawling through early walking stages, the Grinches recommend Robeez. They're real leather, machine washable, adaptable to both crawling and walking, and extremely durable. They're soft-soled, which helps kids learn to balance. Plus, they're Canadian!
She has 5 pairs of Robeez. I love them.

But she's really walking, not just tottering around, and conventional wisdom says now is the time for shoes.

I think she'll still be mostly barefoot.

baltassoc 03-16-2004 04:49 PM

New Shoes
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
[]She got some very cute white baby shoes, with little pink and purple flowers.[] Can someone please explain why these shoes had the unfortunate effect of making her scream her pretty little head off, as if she were being beaten with them, rather than having them placed upon her dainty little feet?
Well, maybe it has something to do with the fact you are making her wear shoes with pink and purple flowers on them. Oh, the horror. The baltspawns' feminist grandmother would never approve. And since she buys most of the baltspawns' clothes, we go with that. Of course, she's my problem, not yours, so YMMV.

The baltspawn did not like their shoes at first either. It took a couple of days to get used to them at all, and a couple of months before they began to connect putting on shoes with going outside and therefore a good thing.

One piece of advice: tempting though it may be, stay away from shoes with Velcro closures at this age. You may get away with them for this pair, but by the time she's the next size up, she will have figured out how to undo the Velcro and fling the shoes off. Then at some point they stop messing with them and its okay again. But stores really shouldn't sell size fives and five 1/2s in Velcro at all.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 03-16-2004 06:16 PM

New Shoes
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
The Brazenette started walking a few weeks ago.

Today, we went for new shoes. She got some very cute white baby shoes, with little pink and purple flowers.

Can someone please explain why these shoes had the unfortunate effect of making her scream her pretty little head off, as if she were being beaten with them, rather than having them placed upon her dainty little feet?
This seems easy. At this age, we say what we feel; we have not yet been beaten into supressing our emotions.

Shoes suck. They constrain your feet, limit their mobility, and get sweaty and gross. They block you from feeling warm and comfortable things like rugs and blankets and sofas. Don't we all kick off our shoes and let the dogs breath when we get home?

This is one of the first of many occassions when you will be forced to make her come to grips with a world of constraints, limits, and pain. A world where people wear things like ties, bras, high-heels, chastity belts and other instruments of torture. And, in time, you will want her to wear just about all of these things (well, maybe not ties).

bilmore 03-17-2004 09:49 AM

New Shoes
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
This is one of the first of many occassions when you will be forced to make her come to grips with a world of constraints, limits, and pain.
This explains nicely why I enjoyed buying all of my kids their first shoes.

TexLex 03-17-2004 12:21 PM

TV for tots
 
So, I've started letting the Lexling watch Teletubbies for 1/2 hr in the morning and I feel as if I may be leading him down the path of the couch potato - he's only 4mos old (tomorrow!), but he LOVES the tv (lots of lights and sounds). Am I a wicked bad mommy?

-TL

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 03-17-2004 12:37 PM

TV for tots
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TexLex
So, I've started letting the Lexling watch Teletubbies for 1/2 hr in the morning and I feel as if I may be leading him down the path of the couch potato - he's only 4mos old (tomorrow!), but he LOVES the tv (lots of lights and sounds). Am I a wicked bad mommy?

-TL
Only because it's teletubbies.

TexLex 03-17-2004 12:46 PM

TV for tots
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Only because it's teletubbies.
Oh, come on - they are pretty cute and they're a hell of a lot better than that annoying Caillou - it will be a dark dark day before he gets to watch that.

-T("Eh-Oh!")L

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 03-17-2004 01:09 PM

TV for tots
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TexLex
Oh, come on - they are pretty cute and they're a hell of a lot better than that annoying Caillou - it will be a dark dark day before he gets to watch that.

-T("Eh-Oh!")L
This is a regular issue in our house; my wife is convinced all TV is evil and that one of the worst things in the world is letting our kids get in the habit of vegging in front of it. I believe we all need a bit of down-time, and as long as it is kept under control, TV is a perfectly acceptable form of down time. (And as long as Kim Possible is tuned in, but that's a different issue...)

Kids are different. One of our kids has no interest in the television, another would watch for half the day if permitted. We on occassion hope that the one with no interest will calm down enough to sit still for a half hour in front of the tube. So I'd watch the kid, see if they're showing signs of dependency or lethargy, and then keep them away from the tube by engaging them.

You're not a bad mother. But try some Little Bear, sometime. It's much better for the same age group.

viet_mom 03-17-2004 04:31 PM

TV and Shoesies
 
Texlex: Vietbabe also showed an interest in TV at 4 months. I don't see what the big deal is at that young age. I swear by the entire Baby Einstein collection w/ elaborate and colorful toys the little one can stare at. I guess to avoid the TV curse, you could purchase them at a mighty price and set them up like a three ring circus in your living room. But Lexling probably douldn't care if they're 3d or not at that age. For the wee wee ones, besides the Einstein series, I like Teletubbies and its cousin, Boohbah . I think they also like the high-pitched Elmo's voice.

Brazen: Sorry the Brazenette has not shown an early interest in the wonderful world of shoes. I think Vietbabe has the same ones you are describing. They're popular for kids' first shoes. As a less structured alternative -- yes, the Robeez are great. I also used Padders alot, except beware the cloth portion at the toe gets worn quickly. For another less structured option - if you are near a Chinatown, they have teeny cloth shoes with a strap across them, usually embroidered. Or you can try something like these cuties and others on the website.

The Brazenette might be ok if the shoes were more "fun" and might like "squeaky shoes" which squeak when she walks. In China, they are used so when you don't hear squeaking, that means the little one has moved too far away. Kids love em. Here are some squeaky shoes and some more

And finally, my own favorites, oddly enough found on the JC Penney (NTTAWWT) website:

Miniature black Chuckie T's to match my own:
http://www.zappos.com/images/.331/65124-t.jpg http://www.zappos.com/images/004/7130004/65103-d.jpg

Retrocool mini-moc's:

http://a666.g.akamaitech.net/7/666/1...b8082dcf0R.jpg


Vietmom
(Clearly a shoe freak)

NW Native 03-17-2004 05:01 PM

TV for tots
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TexLex
Oh, come on - they are pretty cute and they're a hell of a lot better than that annoying Caillou - it will be a dark dark day before he gets to watch that.

-T("Eh-Oh!")L
Agree re: Caillou - that voice makes me want to scream.
And Teletubbies - I could just hear the developers of that one

'It's a TV within a TV for babies!!! Think of the product loyalty we can build from such a young age!!'

My favorites to watch with Native Son were Bear in the Big Blue House (pip and pop were our favorites), and Winnie the Pooh.

TexLex 03-18-2004 02:16 PM

Woman Gives Birth to Two Sets of Identical Twins
 
(Yikes!!! - TL)

Mar 18, 8:23 am ET By C. Bryson Hull

HOUSTON (Reuters) - After struggling through three years of fertility treatments, Jeffery and Sheryl McGowen were blessed with identical twins. Twice.

Sheryl McGowen gave birth to two sets of identical twins via Caesarean section at the Women's Hospital of Texas in Houston on Monday.

The first twins born are named Jacob and Jacoby, and the second two were named Justin and Jason. The four brothers, who were about 10 weeks early, weigh between 3 pounds, 4 ounces and 2 pounds, 5 ounces.

"I'm still waking up every morning and touching those little wristbands just to check if it's still real," said Jeffery McGowen, a deputy with the Harris County Sheriff's Office.

All four were still on ventilators on Wednesday, but were otherwise healthy and expected to come off the breathing machines on Friday, their father said. Their mother, 35, is doing well, he said.

The odds of two pairs of identical being born during the same pregnancy are about one out of 11 million, the McGowens' doctors told them.

They babies are technically two sets of identical twins because they came from two eggs that divided. Each set of twins looks different from the other set.

The McGowens underwent years of fertility drug treatments, which doctors have credited with an upsurge of multiple births in recent years, before finally trying in vitro fertilization.

Doctors implanted two eggs, which is normal to increase the chances of success. But both eggs were fertilized.

"We started off with twins. Two weeks later we had an ultrasound, and they told us one of the eggs had split," Jeffery McGowen, 34, said.

In November, a doctor specializing in high-risk pregnancies took another look and told the McGowens they were going to have two sets of twins.

"I was shocked, amazed and I really didn't know what to say at that time," Jeffery McGowen told Reuters.

The McGowens kept the news secret until Christmas Day, when they shared it with their families.

Finances are going to be tight, McGowen said.

"We're going from a two-income family to one income, and now we have six instead of two," he said. "But I have faith we'll be provided for."

Link

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 03-18-2004 02:20 PM

Woman Gives Birth to Two Sets of Identical Twins
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TexLex


The first twins born are named Jacob and Jacoby, and the second two were named Justin and Jason.
Perhaps even more astounding than the long odds of this ever happening is that they were unable to display any more imagination than adding a "y" to one twin's name to come up with the other. Why not abdicate that responsibility entirely and just number them like George Forman?

bilmore 03-18-2004 03:59 PM

Woman Gives Birth to Two Sets of Identical Twins
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Perhaps even more astounding than the long odds of this ever happening is that they were unable to display any more imagination than adding a "y" to one twin's name to come up with the other. Why not abdicate that responsibility entirely and just number them like George Forman?
Four new babies? They're probably too damn tired to do any more than that.

Atticus Grinch 03-19-2004 06:22 PM

TV for tots
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TexLex
So, I've started letting the Lexling watch Teletubbies for 1/2 hr in the morning and I feel as if I may be leading him down the path of the couch potato - he's only 4mos old (tomorrow!), but he LOVES the tv (lots of lights and sounds). Am I a wicked bad mommy?
Television is fine, as long as it's properly controlled. Enter Tivo!

Quote:

For some TiVo users, household expenses have actually decreased since they forked over the cash to buy the box and pay for the monthly subscription. Ann Silberman of Sacramento, Calif., buys fewer toys for her 7-year-old son, Matt Kempster, than she did for his 17-year-old brother at that age because Matt never sees TV commercials.

"He doesn't know about the popular toys or junk food, because he doesn't watch live TV," Ms. Silberman said. "We record the wholesome shows that we want him to see, and that is what is available for him. Now that he isn't sitting in front of the TV all the time, he's watching less."

During the summer months, the family is able to spend more time outdoors (hi, Bilmore!) when it is still daylight because they no longer feel obligated to watch their favorite programs at the appointed time. "Now I can enjoy a regular life," Ms. Silberman said.
Apparently, it can also make you a better husband, wife, mother, father and insomniac. NYT (reg. req'd).

Hank Chinaski 03-21-2004 08:24 PM

TV for tots
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
This is a regular issue in our house; my wife is convinced all TV is evil and that one of the worst things in the world is letting our kids get in the habit of vegging in front of it. I believe we all need a bit of down-time, and as long as it is kept under control, TV is a perfectly acceptable form of down time. (And as long as Kim Possible is tuned in, but that's a different issue...)

Kids are different. One of our kids has no interest in the television, another would watch for half the day if permitted. We on occassion hope that the one with no interest will calm down enough to sit still for a half hour in front of the tube. So I'd watch the kid, see if they're showing signs of dependency or lethargy, and then keep them away from the tube by engaging them.

You're not a bad mother. But try some Little Bear, sometime. It's much better for the same age group.
Do wifey let them see reruns of your show?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 03-22-2004 10:14 AM

TV for tots
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch

Apparently, it can also make you a better husband, wife, mother, father and insomniac. NYT (reg. req'd).
Tell the truth, Atticus--you're the guy with 7 tivos, right?

dtb 03-23-2004 09:40 AM

TV for tots
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NW Native
Agree re: Caillou - that voice makes me want to scream.
And Teletubbies - I could just hear the developers of that one

'It's a TV within a TV for babies!!! Think of the product loyalty we can build from such a young age!!'

My favorites to watch with Native Son were Bear in the Big Blue House (pip and pop were our favorites), and Winnie the Pooh.
Huh -- I guess I'm the only one who doesn't find Caillou completely annoying...

Isn't it eerie how babies are mesmerized by Teletubbies? Both my kids were absolutely hypnotized by it. I read somewhere that to create the teletubbies, they performed studies to see which colors and shapes and sounds most attracted infants' attention, and that's why the TT look and sound the way they do. It's sort of creepy, I think -- but I'm the first one to pop in the "Dipsy" tape when we're coming home and need the baby to be out from underfoot while we unpack/get settled.

bilmore 03-23-2004 02:01 PM

TV for tots
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
Huh -- I guess I'm the only one who doesn't find Caillou completely annoying...

Isn't it eerie how babies are mesmerized by Teletubbies? Both my kids were absolutely hypnotized by it. I read somewhere that to create the teletubbies, they performed studies to see which colors and shapes and sounds most attracted infants' attention, and that's why the TT look and sound the way they do. It's sort of creepy, I think -- but I'm the first one to pop in the "Dipsy" tape when we're coming home and need the baby to be out from underfoot while we unpack/get settled.
Studies have shown that the "look" of the TT's most closely resembles, in the kids' eyes, how we appear to them - soft, round gooey things that provide TV and comfort food.

I hear that changes at around 18 or 19. At that time, the TV in the tummy changes to a car.

NW Native 03-23-2004 07:43 PM

TV for tots
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
I guess I'm the only one who doesn't find Caillou completely annoying...
I didn't find it completely annoying when watched with the sound turned off. We kind of enjoyed the gentle pictures. But it's hard to keep an active child's attention when there's no sound.

Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
I read somewhere that to create the teletubbies, they performed studies .... It's sort of creepy, I think ...
Yes. That's my point about TT. The whole concept is like being slapped in the face 'hey, we're manipulating you bwahahahahahah'.

bold_n_brazen 03-25-2004 12:21 PM

Not important to anyone here but me...
 
Today is the Brazenette's first birthday.

Cake and party hats all around!

NW Native 03-25-2004 01:49 PM

Not important to anyone here but me...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Today is the Brazenette's first birthday.

Cake and party hats all around!
Au contraire, 1st birthday is a huge deal. Of course you're supposed to post numbers (ht/wt) so all the other parents can do the required one-upsmanship comparison to their child's numbers.
Take lots of pictures.

NWN

robustpuppy 03-25-2004 01:57 PM

Not important to anyone here but me...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Today is the Brazenette's first birthday.

Cake and party hats all around!
Happy Birthday to her!

In honor of the Brazenette, today I chose Raisinettes as my afternoon guilty pleasure. (Really. I could have gone with a Hershey's with Almonds, or an Oh, Henry!)

andViolins 03-25-2004 02:45 PM

Not important to anyone here but me...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Today is the Brazenette's first birthday.

Cake and party hats all around!
Is she wearing the cake, the party hat or both?

and which one would she rather be eating?

aV


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