trading spaces
 

I don't really get this. How does someone else's hotness threaten your own? If and when this has ever happened to me, I just say, "Yeah, she *is* hot." And usually that is end of the story.

trading spaces
 

Paige Davis has fans? Ugh, she's dull and doll-like. Alex McLeod (sp?) was much better. My nightmare designer would be Frank. Handpainted chickens and country kitsch, ick! Changing Rooms is better. The designers actually meet with the neighbors ahead of time, so they have more input about what will be done to the rooms. There is more debate and compromise on Changing Rooms, which makes the whole 30 minutes worth watching. On Trading Spaces the designers tend to be snobby and bullish. "I'm a designer, damn it! Why can't you see my vision?"

The NHL version of "Joltin Joe has left, and gone away."
 

Why are the Devils hated so much?

trading kayaks
 

Billmore is right, dammit.

Unplug from the Matrix already and go out and get some fresh air.

not7y(I'm going hiking...after the baseball game of course)S

The NHL version of "Joltin Joe has left, and gone away."
 

Because they regularly beat the Flyers, of course! And there are many, many Flyers fans that post here.

trading kayaks
 

Excuse me for liking a little mindless television when I get back from playing soccer, working out at the gym or playing with the dog in the woods. Unless I'm out of commission due to an injury, or there are good sports on, if the sun is out the TV is not on and I'm not on the couch.

Hope you enjoy your ballgame and hike. I'm looking forward to a couple hours of basketball this evening. Maybe a trip to the driving range if the rain holds off.

The NHL version of "Joltin Joe has left, and gone away."
 

Double F the Flyers

F Bobby Clarke

F Lindros too

not7yS

The NHL version of "Joltin Joe has left, and gone away."
 

A Not Unreasonable question, I suppose.

I will allow those with more hockey knowledge than I (gwnc, slave, BRC, thrasher fan, str8, and probably lots of others) to answer this on a meta level. (Hey! That semiotics degree paid off -- whoo-hooo!)

For me, I hate the Devils because (in no particular order) (1) Scott Stevens just bugs me; (2) they popularized the so-called "neutral zone trap" style of play when they won the Cup in 1995; (3) Puddy-from-Seinfeld-type behavior from Devils fans -- I have seen too many obnoxious drunken louts with black and red face paint wearing Scott Stevens sweaters at the local rink; (4) and Scott Stevens annoys me to no end.

Apropos of nothing, who's the ESPN chick they had doing on ice reports last night?

trading spaces
 

It doesn't, and I've got no objection to anyone having and using their eyes or making a simple comment. But I do think it unnecessary and perhaps unkind, in front of one's SO, to comment in an actually panting-and-moaning sort of way about another as RP described.

Just my .02.

trading spaces
 

Exactly. If these people are looking for real-life clients after some of the "visions" they've done on that show, ignoring the client's wishes and forgetting that people actually have to live in that garish room after you're done with it goes over big with the paying clients.

I've seen it occasionally, including some on Monday (saw the awful wall of records and the safari hut bedroom... blech), and am convinced that of the designers I've seen Vern is the only one who actually cares what the homeowners think and puts ego aside to give the people something they will like and can live in. I'd hire the guy for my place in a second if I could afford him.

The NHL version of "Joltin Joe has left, and gone away."
 

1) I like Scott Stevens. It's nice to see an old guy out there playing with the young bucks.
2) Are you referring the the "dump it in the corner" move? That seems silly to me.
3) Not being a Seinfeld fan (or even sometime watcher) I've never seen Puddy in his glory. At the playoff and Cup games I have been to at the Meadowlands, I didn't see many Puddy-types. Then again, I see too many of them up here in Bean-town with their Bud Lights and Patriots! regalia. Yes, wherever they are, they are obnoxious.
4) See #1.

I'm a hockey newbie. Like the game, but don't understand all the nuances. If someone can recommend a good hockey team to watch, I'll gladly check them out next season. I'm a bit more knowledgeable on basketball, and if anyone wants to talk about soccer...

In the meantime, Go Devils.

trading kayaks
 

Seriously, when did all of this "my life is so much more fulfilling than yours, you mindless troll" nonsense become acceptable?!

Not knowing more than a handful of you, I will still extrapolate and say that every single person on this board in far more interesting and complex than presented on a stupid internet forum.

These discussions are exactly like standing at a dull cocktail party filled with lawyers as each tries to "outcool" the others.

I have a newsflash for you all. No matter how cool you think you are, you are still lawyers, which is about as uncool a profession as exists. Our clients may be cool, but we are their lawyers. Great, we create their companies, write their contracts, advise them on deals, get them out of jail, keep them from paying monster settlements, and protect their assets. It's terribly exciting stuff, isn't it?

This is a place for free exchange of frivolous matters -- books, music, sports, tv, movies, sex, travel, etc. Attacking others for their choice of decompression is utterly ridiculous.

Remember, at the end of the day, you're really not as cool as you think you are.

Even(militantly uncool)Odds

but I know that a French-Canadian goalie and a guy named Niedermayer will win.
 

Thanks. Of course, there ain't much else to do in that neck of the woods other than wax nostalgic about football and hockey teams that actually produced. Some of us can't let go -- kinda like that guy you run into in the bar when you visit your old hometown who sits and talks about that time he hit a homerun in high school because he hasn't done anything to talk about since then. I wouldn't say that I am as bad as that though -- I mean, my talk of glory is about other people who actually got fucking PAID to play sports. I live vicariously through others, it leads to less personal injury.

but I know that a French-Canadian goalie and a guy named Niedermayer will win.
 

Now THAT is a board motto.

Various and sundry
 

hmmm considering that all men, in my opinion, look like farm animals when viewed naked from the rear it probably wouldn't be fair to judge. BUT, I will anyway. Let's just say that there must be some reason that I married the poor uneducated slob. I suppose he is more like a horse than a goat. :yum:

trading spaces
 

Actually, Doug has apparently won awards & stuff. But I've read a few interviews with him, and it's all an act. For all of them. Hildi & Doug are the designated "mean-avant-guard wreck-your-kitchen" types, just as Frank is the designated "painted-pig country-kitchen" guy, which apparently isn't his style at all. They are all supposed to play up different designer "types" to keep things interesting. That redheaded chick did the "condescending as hell but does pretty well" schtick.

Regardless, I don't think I've seen more than one or two rooms that aren't clearly and unambiguously improvements on the original. Of course, given what most of the people start with ANYTHING would be an improvement. Even the "hay-wall" room looked better. The problems seem usually to be that the room just doesn't serve the utilitarian needs assigned to it by the homeowners (i.e.: Doug's turning a home office into a home theater). That and the occasional pathological loathing of orange.

Anyhow, my nightmare would be Frank, too. And after him, the border-woman.

trading kayaks
 

Harumph. I am just as cool, if not cooler.

But more importantly, is PLF as pretty as he thinks he is?

not7yS

Hoops and Movie Rec
 

You should get the soundtrack. You will not be able to stop doing the throaty chants. Lots of fun. Can you believe most of them are not actors? So well done.

trading kayaks
 

I am more uncool than you because I haven't met a single poster in real life.

So there.

P.S. I really am less interesting in real life than I am here.

trading spaces
 

And, given that the owners are getting a crappy room redone for free by someone with some clue as to what they are doing, seems to me that it would be pretty worth the gamble that you won't think it's any better.

cool
 

Speaking of cool...

My new favorite band of the week is the Distillers. They are cool.

And their lead singer Brody Armstrong is the coolest
http://www.thedistillers.net/april_brody5.jpg

The band just switched from playing the Warped Tour [a/k/a the 14-18 year old crowd] to Headlining Stage 2 at Lollapalooza [a/k/a the 17 to 22 year old crowd].

Apparently, she just separated from her husband Tim, lead singer of Rancid, which happens to be headlining Warped, and now shacking with Josh of QOTSA, who happens to be playing Lollapalooza. Very, very cool.

The NHL version of "Joltin Joe has left, and gone away."
 

This is a no-brainer -- the Thrashers, of course. Two of the most exciting young players in the sport today (Heatley and Kovalchuk), a goalie "this" close to being a superstar (Nurminen) and some great scrapping (Exelby, natch, laid waste with one punch to the Habs tough-guy in his first big-league game -- awww, what's his nuts, I don't remember now). We have great guys in the system and I think a full season with Coach Hartley will be the difference next season ---- they can store the Cup at my house. Second place you ask? Watch the Sabres because, well, because I must love the Sabres by virtue of genetics.

Best course of action? Order the NHL Center Ice package on your dish and watch them all. I mean, do people really do anything except watch hockey between October and May?

The NHL version of "Joltin Joe has left, and gone away."
 

The neutral-zone trap: Basically the defense blocks passing lanes in the neutral zone so the offense has to dump in the puck. It's awful, an abomination and renders the game so boring that you are tempted to switch the channel to (gasp) basketball. The Ducks and the Devils both play some version of the trap. It stinks. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it.

I hate the Devils because they tend to beat the Leafs. That drives me nuts. I just hate them as a team though, not individually. For example, I hate Brodeur when he is a Devil, but not when he is winning the Olympics for my country. It's like the Flyers. Simon Gagne is hateful when he is a Flyer, but not when he's playing for Canada. It's irrational but there you go. Basically I hate all teams that are not the Leafs.

I think I've now used the word hate so much it's rendered meaningless. And I'm actually having a pretty good day.

cool
 

To each his own.

Hoops and Movie Rec
 

The movie is fascinating.

I spent an evening at the theater a couple of years ago listening to Tibetan sacred music. Their throat-singing is just extraordinary. The singing in The Fast Runner reminded me of the Tibetans.

cool
 

OMG. She is wearing a Warzone t-shirt. From their tour supporting the album "Don't Forget the Struggle, Don't Forget the Streets." I saw them in like 1986. Lower East Side Crew -- yeah baby. Their lead singer had a "thing" for me and sent me signed copies of everything. His name was Ray-Beez. Skin-head band. Oh shit, that brings back memories. I used to look like this chick only my 'hawk was a true one and it rawked. :cool:

Fuck, was that outable?

The NHL version of "Joltin Joe has left, and gone away."
 

A mediocre Panthers team perfected it and rode it all the way to the Finals. Since then, its become a widespread annoyance throughout the League.

The Devils sit right in the heart of the Rangers suburbs and have no substantial fan base. They are a winning franchise, yet they can only sell out at home when the Rangers come to town [i.e. drive through the tunnel and 10 minutes into Jersey]. These Finals are the first games sold out in advance.

Their fans don't even fucking cheer. They barely booed Holik for chrissakes.

not7yS

The NHL version of "Joltin Joe has left, and gone away."
 

Indeed. I remember when the Devils played the Leafs a few years ago in the playoffs. I went to a few games and it was the Toronto fans making the most noise in the Meadowlands. Very sad. I think they are moving to Newark? Or maybe that is just a rumor.

Greg Smith, boy genius
 

I'm afraid your memory is fading, old man. I spent that time back at your apartment with your mom.

The NHL version of "Joltin Joe has left, and gone away."
 

Yeah, Toronto fans can be counted on for that --:rolleyes:

I remember going to Sabres games with my uncle in the early eighties and we used to go up to the oranges and dump cups of assorted "stuff" on Toronto fans below. I was young, my uncle was fucking weird and the Toronto fans were assholes.

But I :love: GWNC

The NHL version of "Joltin Joe has left, and gone away."
 

He's really one of the ones that I know I'm going to tell my kids and grandkids about seeing. But how can you convey through words the sight of Roy shrugging his shoulders and bobbing his head back and forth with that crazy look in his eye? You can't.

Roy's defining moment came not on the ice, but at a press conference where he was asked, during a Phoenix/Colorado series, about Jeremy Roenick's comments that Roy was very beatable. Patrick's response: "I can't really hear what Jeremy says because I've got two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears."

We'll miss ya Patty. You were the best.

Paige versus Alex
 

Only history can judge, but I say Alex sucked. Her reveals were terrible. "Look at your new armoir! Look at your new lamp! Look at the rug!" Blech.

Paige, by comparison, does pretty good reveals --- she asks questions, for example. She comports herself relatively well in very awkward or painful reveals, like the infamous Seattle fireplace episode. She is like Carol of Changing Rooms in this regard. I don't agree with her decision to pretend that she's actually some kind of authority figure. "Doug, you're over budget again!" "Vern, it's four o'clock on day 2! Tick-tock!" Spare me. But the rest of her designer interviews are far superior to Alex's. She flirts especially well with Doug, which is funny because while Paige has a sweet, sweet ass, he'd probably rather watch a reveal of Ty's pooper. NTTAWWT.

cool
 

It occurs to me that my firm does not have a hairstyle policy. At least I don't know about it if we do. So, theoretically, I could come into work tomorrow with a three foot tall mohawk and it would be aaiiight.

Out of curiousity, how did you grow out your mohawk? Did you have to shave your head and let it all grow back together?

The NHL version of "Joltin Joe has left, and gone away."
 

Most Jersey-ites that I grew up with were Islander fans. But this is back when there were still helmet-less players in the league, so that may have changed.

You're right, the fans don't cheer.

Paige versus Alex
 

1. The second sweet was gratuitous and it made me feel less hot.

2. Pooper strikes me as a better word for toilet than for ass. It's like a less crass version of crapper. It's a decidedly unsexy way to describe Ty's decidedly sexy, sexy, ass.

(When I saw Roger Dodger it took me a second to realize that he was not saying that Isabella Rossellini liked to do it in the bathroom.)

cool
 

Yeah. Shaving also got rid of the various colors so it all grew back as one color. I don't know if my company has an applicable hair policy but all of the other execs know about my past (pictures and all have ogled the body-art) and think it is kinda kewl (as much as old dudes can find things kewl). Before I decided to do the law thing I actually met an old-dude lawyer with a short 'hawk -- he worked for the EPA or something like that. If I won the lottery the first thing I would do is get my 'hawk back. Fucking conformist society.

Paige versus Alex
 

I've got an idea for a reality show. There's a hot woman, prescreened so as to be indifferent, but not adamantly opposed to anal sex. Then you have a bunch of suitors. First one to get her to agree to open up the back door wins an ass-load of money.

I've already got a name picked out. "Race to the Bottom." What do you think?

str8.

Paige versus Alex
 

When did this idea first occur to you? Was it inspired by the phrase Race to the Bottom ("I was sitting in Con Law one day ...")? Or perhaps, as a repeat game show contestant, you're trying to think up shows where you know you'd be a contender?

I can just see the contestants' interviews now. "Well, I dated this girl once ... "

Paige versus Alex
 

Wouldn't it be more interesting if the conquest were also male? I mean, the suitors would be indifferent, but not adamantly opposed to fucking another guy in the ass -- you know, a bunch of guys who want to fuck a woman in the ass would be perfect to play the suitors. :D Fucking in the ass is, after all, just fucking anyone in the ass.

Paige versus Alex
 

No, a toilet is not a pooper. It is, at best, a poopee. Cf. lessor/lessee; grantor/grantee; licensor/licensee; franchisor/franchisee.