Don't fence me in
 

I got the point. Just making a joke. Actually my point in the prior post was to be a little bit Dr Ruth-esque with the relationship speak...

Any-who, everyone have a good time...

trading spaces
 

I think something similar happened on CR. Very early episodes clearly had a "we can do whatever we want" atmosphere while some later ones seemed to permit the participants to designate "don't touches" and also sometimes had the designer trying to mold the design to what his investigations led him to believe would be at least somewhat acceptable to the homeowner. I would think that Americans would be more likely to explode over a bad room than Brits -- Brits seem so easygoing about a lot of stuff (generalization alert).

Have you ever watched House Invaders? I don't know if it came before or after CR started (I am guessing after). Here the homeowner helps do his own place )with supplies supposedly in the shed already (who the held keeps all that good wood and paint around?). At the end they leave to allow for "finishing touches." I can't recall seeing anything botched on this one. The two handy-guys are hotties.

Sex Toys (Was Paige vs. Alex)
 

So, in other words, sometimes a trapeeze is just a trapeeze?

Whew. Uh, I mean, my friend will be so relieved.

trading spaces
 

I know we tangled about this on the old board, but as I recall, all they said was that the didn't want the brick painted. Doug was correct in saying that faux weathered brick wouldn't work with the room, so he complied with the literal instructions and didn't permanently affect the brick. Of course, it bore no relationship to the homeowners' tastes, but those people needed help in the taste department, as I recall.

Wanted Frank; got Doug. Tough titties. I'd gladly take that room as done by Doug.

Link to Before & After photos

Don't fence me in
 

I got your point, Dr. Ruth.

And to tie some threads together (i.e. Dr. Ruth show + anal sex), does anyone know who Sue Johansen is? She (I believe) is now on the Oxygen network, but she is long known in Toronto for her "Sex with Sue" first radio, then TV show. Anyhoo, way way back when, I called up her show and we had a long discussion about anal sex on the radio. I pretended my name was Michelle. She was very helpful. Knows a lot about sex for a not very good looking woman.

trading spaces
 

Agreed, they needed Frank, in which case they should've goddamn hired him or bought a bunch of cutesy country crap at their local crafts shop instead of taking a chance they were clearly unprepared fpr emotionally.

I actually like Doug occasionally (if not his "this is art, you bourgeois bastards!" attitude) but thought that wall still bit--looked too Brady Bunch.

Don't fence me in
 

I think I know who you are referring to -- does she have kind of short grey hair now? Good for her with all the sex knowledge. Hope it wasn't all book learnin'...

Talking Sex with Sue
 

Of course I know who Sue is. Everyone who a) went to school in Ontario, b) watches the new Degrassi, or c) watches Oxygen network knows who she is. Hell there was an article about her in yesterday's Daily Variety! She rocks. I remember she came to our middle school and said: "Girls, a lot of times a guy will claim that he's too big for the condom to fit." She then took out a condom and rolled it up her hand and forearm. "I don't think so." Brilliant.

By the way, does anyone know what the hell is up with NOG-N or "The N" or whatever the hell it's called running the same 8 Degrassi episodes over and over again for the past twelve months? Last I've seen is Spike's wedding to Mr. Simpson. Is that it for the series? Crap.

Str(is it wrong to say 'I heart Mani?')8

Red Wine Recs
 

Nothing says summer like cheap wine. Enjoy.

Reds Easy to Drink, Easy on the Budget
By FRANK J. PRIAL

An excerpt:

Our favorite was a 2001 Salice Salentino ($9) from Leone de Castria in Puglia in southernmost southern Italy. Salice Salentino is a town; it is also an official wine region near Brindisi on the Adriatic coast. The principal grape is negroamaro. Ms. Battenhouse liked the fruit and acidity; Ms. Hesser found the flavors ripe but subtle, and appreciated the fact that it did not have a candied taste. Mr. Asimov envisioned it with pasta and a succulent meat sauce. We gave the wine two and a half stars out of a possible four. I liked its balance.

Our second and third wines, also at two and a half stars, were both Californians, and were both Gallo wines: a 2001 Rancho Zabaco Dancing Bull Zinfandel, California appellation, and a 2000 Gallo of Sonoma Cabernet Sauvignon, Sonoma County appellation. Both were priced at $10.

Full text: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/28/di...WINE.html?8nyh

Tomorrow's the big day
 

Scripps-Howard again returns to the forefront of the nation's collective consciousness with the big Spelling Bee. After round 1, it's down to 175 5th-8th graders. Surprised that round 2 results aren't up on the internet. No live coverage on ESPN 2 today - that comes tomorrow once it's narrowed down much further. Make sure you tune in to find out which maladjusted home schooler takes home the title.

Favorite speller of the modern era was that girl who went really fast and never asked any superfluous questions once she knew the word, either last year or the year before. I think she came 4th or 5th.

If you've never seen it, you won't be sorry if you take some time tomorrow to watch. I promise.

trading spaces
 

I actually dated a woman whose beliefs were very much like Thrashers' Fan. She thought that any man who was interested in anal sex was a homosexual or had homosexual tendencies. What's surprising is that she lived in San Francisco and had plenty of gay friends, who presumably could have disabused her of these notions. They declined. I had more of a problem with them declining to pass along a few pointers in the oral sex department. This was long ago, and I didn't realize the variety in ability levels among women.

It's interesting that a hard-drinkin', cop-lovin', punk rock-listenin', mohawk-wearin' woman would perfer vanilla sex (to the exclusion of almost all other kinds). Appearances can be so deceiving. This isn't the proper forum for a complete discussion of rooms and houses. While the "nice guy" stereotype generally hinders dating, when a woman feels comfortable with a man and believes that she won't be judged for saying what she wants, she can speak volumes... about many, many schools of architechture. It was a valuable lesson to learn.

Video Games Make You Smart
 

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/148/...o_games:.shtml

Of course, I horribly sucked at even Pong so I assume this makes me a complete nimrod. Does kicking ass at air hockey count?

Fudge Packing
 

What's even more idiotic about this belief is that many gay men do not engage in or enjoy anal sex, while all Howard Stern can talk about (it seems, because my tolerance limit is low) is "anal" (no use of the word sex because that get the FCC upset) with women.

trading spaces
 

I have a gay friend who doesn't want to have anything to do with anal sex, and says that he only really wants to be blown. I think his being a born again Christian has something to do with these views. And his sexual frustration is the direct result of them.

trading spaces
 

There was an "incident" that may have curtailed what may have otherwise been a more free-spirited view of sex.

I suppose the one biggest blessing to the hubby is that my lack of desire for anything other than missionary sex is it allowed for the development of great oral skills. Yeah, I know, someone will be quick to say that this is not vanilla and thus I am a hypocrite. I don't put blowjobs in the same category as anal-sex but then again I would not permit oral sex to be performed on me. So, after much thought given to the statements made on the board today (some of them a bit too scathing, I must say), I have concluded the following:

1. A certain "event" had an effect on my view of sex even though I swore to myself that I would not allow it to do so.
2. Being poked in the pooper, among other non-traditional sex acts, is okay for some people -- just not me personally -- and has no bearing on their sexuality or character (unless they are going outside of the consenting adult realm).
3. I like giving blow jobs. But being a vegetarian I would never swallow those little buggers. Either way, it is considered kinky by some people and thus makes me more "normal" than I thought.
4. You have mentioned sex in other rooms along with certain non-traditional sex acts which means I am not as screwed up as I thought because I like that kind of variety (although one must be discreet with a toddler in the house).
5. it is never too late to be educated -- even by a bunch of perverts on a lawyers' chat board.

trading spaces
 

Interesting how people seem to go to one extreme or the other in relation to similar "incidents."

Go Canada
 

TORONTO, May 27 — The Canadian government introduced legislation today to decriminalize possession of small amounts of marijuana, a move that U.S. officials said could increase the amount of marijuana smuggled across the border.
UNDER THE BILL, possession of up to 15 grams of marijuana, about half an ounce, would become punishable by fines of up to the equivalent of about $290 U.S. for adults and $182 for minors. Backed by Prime Minister Jean Chretien’s ruling Liberal Party, the measure has a good chance of passing because of the party’s strong majority in Parliament, political analysts said.
Chretien is proceeding despite firm opposition from the Bush administration, which views the measure as encouraging drug use and creating an environment of permissiveness.

Chretien not an idiot
:P :P

Round 2 results are in
 

Here's the str8 breakdown of what you can expect tomorrow at the SH Spelling Bee. 83 Spellers made the cut after (written) Round 2. Here's where they're from. Root for your hometown kids. New York leads the pack with 7, followed by Florida and California with 6. I noted that there's an south asian kid from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, which is enough to get me to bet on him (note, an south asian kid from that newspaper won a couple of years ago).

AZ-1
CA-6
CO-1
CT-1
FL-6
GA-2
Guam - 1
IL-3
IN-5 (take that Illinois)
IA-1
Jamaica (?!?!?) - 1
KY-1
ME-1
MA-2
MI-2
MN-1
MO-3
MT-1
NE-1
NH-1
NJ-4
NM-1
NY-7
NC-3
ND-1
OH-4
OK-1
PA-4
SC-2
SD-1
TN-4
TX-5
VA-2
WI-1
WV-1
WY-1

No Toronto spellers, sadly. I coulda been a contenda.

Strong swimmers
 

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science...eut/index.html

[spree: Handsome men produce the best quality semen and beautiful women seem to have good voices, according to two different scientific studies.]

Okay, but does that mean that semen improves your vocal chords?

TM

Go Canada
 

Fascinating. I'll pass that info along to the OddMan, who is flying to visit his family in BC tomorrow.

Even(my birthday gift to him: a trip sans me :( )Odds

Waxing
 

I just heard a report that America's Top Model had a segment on the models getting waxed and ready for potential bikini shots. Legs up in the air, screaming, etc.

Did anyone see this?

Strong swimmers
 

I always thought it was fat women have nice voices? It seemed that way in my church anyway.

Waxing
 

I don't know if it is more pathetic that I saw this or that I am so distracted from work today that I am posting about it.

Yes, it was pretty graphic with legs in the air and bare butts showing. Some women were "religiously opposed" to the idea of waxing, some "told everyone I know that I would never NEVER get a bikini wax" (right-who does this), and some screamed bloody hell and said it had to be more painful than anything else in the whole wide big bad world.

Oh--and four of the ten were late (by I think half an hour or more) to their bikini shoot the next morning and did not grasp why this was a problem.

Round 2 results are in
 

I think they get booted when they insert U's after O's and end er-words with "re"


MmmmBurgre

Waxing
 

If they were doing Brazillians, I would have tuned in. Missed the models, but did catch the Jackass re-run where Steve-O got waxed. Watching them tear off his fairly thick eyebrows in one shot was pretty funny.

Haven't heard if Steve-O is still stuck in a Swedish prison, waiting to crap out a condom full of herb. He should have just gone to Canada. I'm sure they are every bit as interested in watching some dude light his head on fire and staple his nutsack to his thigh.

Strong swimmers
 

Are you suggesting that fat girls swallow?

trading spaces
 

Sorry about the "incident".

I am not going to jump on the bandwagon of posters claiming that you like vanilla. You like what you like, I like what I like.

But you have me wondering. When you said that some people think blowjobs are kinky, I about died. I must be an outlier. I can't imagine how anyone could think oral is kinky.

Shit, it doesn't even require batteries.

AM(wish I'd saved the famous TM post)M

Humdrum
 

$100 says your husband either is

(a) a Gold card member of the local whorehouse,

(b) has a few mistresses in that cowtown of yours, or

(c) gay

not7y(oral sex is as vanilla as it gets - fucking A)S

Humdrum
 

I thought oral "sex" was not sex?

Humdrum
 

And apparently a whole country full of 7th graders thinks so too.

Legal/Religious question
 

ORLANDO, Fla., May 28 — Experts in Islamic law are being called to testify in the lawsuit of a Muslim woman fighting a state order to take off her veil for her driver’s license photo. Sultanna Freeman, 35, says Florida’s insistence on photographing her face violates her religious rights. “I DON’T UNVEIL ... because it would be disobeying my Lord,” Freeman testified Tuesday at the start of her non-jury trial.
Assistant Attorney General Jason Vail argued that having an easily identifiable photo on a driver’s license is a matter of public safety.
“It’s the primary method of identification in Florida and the nation,” Vail said. “I don’t think there can be any doubt there is a public safety interest.”
Freeman’s attorneys argue that state officials didn’t care that she wore a veil in her Florida driver’s license photo until after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, an allegation the state denies. “This is about religious liberty. It’s about whether this country is going to have religious diversity,” said Howard Marks, an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida.
Both sides planned to call experts in Islamic law at the trial, which continues Wednesday. A copy of the Quran has been entered into evidence.Read full story here

Question: Is this true? I mean the part about disobeying her lord? I thought that was local law and that there were circumstances where you could unveil (like at home). Anyone out there know the answer to this?

Go Canada
 

One question. When has anyone ever in Canada been arrested for possessing a small amount of pot? It just doesn't happen. Unless you have a massive bag of weed, the cops don't care.

Good for Chretien. Now he can feed the herb to the cows to make them happy instead of mad, and to the SARS patients so they go out with a smile. (Good grief, the country has massive problems with PR right now - what the hell is he thinking).

Let's Put that Slave Analysis to Good Use
 

Edited to remove specifics from question.

I am having lunch with him tomorrow, so I'd love the patented Slave insights to parry with.

Thoughts?

Don't fence me in
 

A lecture on the meaning of the punk rock look/non-conformity from a Republican? What do sweater vests stand for?

Sooooooooo squaresville man...

:band:

More Golf - Skip if uninterested
 

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/story?id=1555940

[spree: Michelle Wie wants to be the first female to earn a PGA Tour card. She hits the ball 290 off the tee and she's only 13 years old]

Damn.

TM

Don't fence me in
 

Hey, my brother Johnny is a Republican. And unlike Joey and DeeDee, he's not dead. Maybe there's something to the GOP...

She's Got the Jack
 

Something?

So one girl gave him the Clap and now he has life-long performance issues with women? Hmmm.

So the question is whether he needs to overcome his fear of re-contracting the Asian Flu - or perhaps switch teams entirely.

My suggestion - take him to a gay cruise bar. And then, if he's not thereafter playing ball with the other team - than tell him he needs 7 years worth of therapy.

notFreud

Don't fence me in
 

80's Republicans [represented on TV by vertically and Parkinsons-challenged actors] wore sweater vests.

And fans of Weezer.

not7y(who names a kid Cuomo?)S

Go Canada
 

Really? I'll remember that next time I'm in Canada.
Are you kidding? This is bad PR? I thought bad PR was taking medicinal marijuana away from critically ill people with Aids, MS, etc.?

Don't fence me in
 

Cousin Larry seemed to like them. I believe Balki Bartokomous did as well:


http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/B.../6536/ps02.jpg


Edited by legal to fix picture problem.