Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504437)

the worst of ACA ain't happening so "true" has no meaning. OAN how many conversations have you had with people reporting to you about why their HC is worse than it was? And if your answer to the question is "I did" , did you mention the option of HSAs?

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504437)

the worst of ACA ain't happening so "true" has no meaning. OAN how many conversations have you had with people reporting to you about why their HC is worse than it was? And if your answer to the question is "I did" , did you mention the option of HSAs?

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 504441)

You are the only person I know who thinks the ACA made their health care worse.

Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 504440)

Option for how many?

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504442)

Can someone who understands financial stuff explain how Trump's election has caused the stock market to go up?

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504443)

i wanted to quote this so it is preserved after you come off whatever bender made your fingers type this.

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504442)

Can someone who understands financial stuff explain how Trump's election has caused the stock market to go up?

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504443)

i wanted to quote this so it is preserved after you come off whatever bender made your fingers type this. When Sebby talks about the people who spout political views of all sorts at smart cocktail parties, I can't help but wonder if there's a little bit of bullshit going on. With what you say here, I'm not wondering.

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 504444)

For lots of people who had good HC and now don't. ACA did not fix the problem of lack of HC, it just mixes the problem around. Like when there's only two squares of TP and you just had a runny shit.

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 504435)

If that were actually true, that would be bad.

Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 504422)

what we need is a single, national risk pool. That would require repealing mccann-ferguson, but that massive chunk of protectionist legislation should never have been enacted in the first place.

Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 504424)

You can ignore the "polite" racism. That's one-percenter bullshit. People in this country are racist because they are racist. Whites in the vast majority simply believe that this great nation was built for their benefit, based upon their twisted interpretation of their Protestant hypocritical God, who is not the God of the brown and black people.

I sit and listen in public places all the time, more and more than I did when I first moved down here, to white, unemployed folks living on disability and SNAP and one form or another of hustling, talking about how it's the blacks and the Hispanics, all of them living on welfare, who are destroying this country.

Federal benefits and state benefits and all the freebies in the world are just fine, as long as they are being paid to uneducated or undereducated whites who would rather sit in bars all day long than hold down any job.

The only way to change things is to figure out a way to get the white folks who don't believe that to fucking cowboy up and start getting in the face of every racist they hear talking about how lazy and shiftless blacks are, and how the messkins are stealing the jobs of decent (read: white) folk and call them on their bullshit.

We need to get into arguments, lose friends, and maybe be willing to take a punch or two, and throw a punch or two.

And that's what living in the South has taught me.

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 504326)

Frankly, if I were to mess with it, I'd get rid of the "stay on your parents' insurance until 25" to get a hold of those young healthy lives for the ACA risk pools. Probably would see a drop in rates in a lot of markets if the penalties were incentive enough for the 20-24 year old set to buy insurance.

Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 504428)

I know a lot of people who qualified for subsidized plans. The subsidy is based on coverage at the Bronze Level. Coverage there is set like one would get for a HSA plan, without the income to fund the HSA. Why should someone bother paying even $75/mo. for a plan that doesn't pay any benefits until the insured has come $5700 out of pocket?