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Anntila the Hun 01-12-2006 03:09 PM

Ann Coulter left the reservation....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
Ann Coulter in her recent article has stated the Democrat party has become pathetic because its pro-choice position is really...

"For women to have the right to have sex with men you don't want to have children with"

Then she goes on to say:

"The right to have sex with men you don't want to have children with is not exactly "Give me liberty, or give me death."

Call me crazy but Ann Coulter is single and forty something (and clearly not a virgin) therefore hasn't she had sex with men that she did want to have children with?

If you are only going to have sex with someone you want to have children with, and children should not be born out of wedlock, then you should only have sex with people you are married to or will eventually marry.

Our friend Ann has clearly violated that rule. So shouldn't Ann take a vow of celibacy until she gets married?
Do as I say, not as I do.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 01-12-2006 03:11 PM

Ann Coulter left the reservation....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
Ann Coulter in her recent article has stated the Democrat party has become pathetic because its pro-choice position is really...

"For women to have the right to have sex with men you don't want to have children with"

Then she goes on to say:

"The right to have sex with men you don't want to have children with is not exactly "Give me liberty, or give me death."

Call me crazy but Ann Coulter is single and forty something (and clearly not a virgin) therefore hasn't she had sex with men that she did want to have children with?

If you are only going to have sex with someone you want to have children with, and children should not be born out of wedlock, then you should only have sex with people you are married to or will eventually marry.

Our friend Ann has clearly violated that rule. So shouldn't Ann take a vow of celibacy until she gets married?
Ann likes it in the ass. Problem solved. There's even a blog about it.

Spanky 01-12-2006 03:19 PM

The so called "experts".
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
So why the fuck do we have to pay taxes?
I thought Ty was the only one with poor reading comprehension and poor math skills but I was clearly wrong.

As long as the government is spending money we need taxes to maximise growth.

Without taxes we would have massive deficits. Deficits that are so large that they would crowd out growth or at least seriously hamper growth. Without growth todays deficits can never become part of permanent debt you don't have to pay back. With slow growth it will take a long time before todays deficits become part of the permanent debt. In addition, the worst thing you can do to future generations, and to ourselves, is not to have growth or to not maximise your growth. Todays growth means more revenue in the following years, which allows you to keep increase spending without having to increase tax rates.

The tax to spending ratio should be adjusted to maximise growth.

Chinas growth rate is ten percent a year. That means the economy doubles in size every seven years. That means the debt that china holds today will become half of its size in relation to GDP in just seven years. So if todays debt in China is 70% of GDP (our debt ratio), then in seven years, without doing anything, that same debt will be 35% of GDP. In fourteen years it will be 17% of GDP, and in 21 years it will be 8.5%. And in 28 years 4.3%. China will never hold a debt less than 5% of GDP. So in China right now old debt becomes insignificant (and part of the permanent debt) in thirty years.

(Some idiot will want to point out that China will keep adding to that debt during that thirty years but that does not address my point, which is, in China, because if its high growth rate, old debt becomes insignificant pretty quickly. The main thing China needs to do is to worry about growth, not about debt).

In addition, Chinas tax revenue, without increasing tax rates, will double in size every seven years.

Anntila the Hun 01-12-2006 03:19 PM

Ann Coulter left the reservation....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Ann likes it in the ass. Problem solved. There's even a blog about it.
It used to be, back in the '50s or so, when men were men and women were women and everyone knew their place, we all knew whatever we did behind closed doors was sex. Life was simple.

Now, I can argue that getting it in the ass is not sex, and therefore I am not having sex outside of marriage.

I blame the Clintons. And Teddy Kennedy. And Michael Moore, Barbra Striesand, Bono, Marion Barry, Al Sharpton, NOW and all feminists, gays, lesbians, transexuals, transvestites - if it hadn't been for them, I'd be --

oh - what was my point again? Can anyone tell me?

Spanky 01-12-2006 04:03 PM

Lawsuit against the Democratic party for reparations for slavery.
 
Does anyone think Penske had anything to do with this?

from the office

of

Rev. Wayne Perryman

P.O. Box 256 Mercer Island, WA 98040 (206) 232-5575 Doublebro@aol.com



January 9, 2006



Attention Congressional & Community Leaders:

I thought it would only be fitting and proper to provide an explanation as to what brought about the Reparations lawsuit against the Democratic Party. Before I share with you the chain of events that led to the lawsuit, I thought that perhaps I should give you a brief background on myself and my past political affiliation.

I am a community activist and an inner-city minister located in Seattle Washington. In addition to working with gang members and professional athletes, I spend my leisure time doing research. In 1993, based on personal research, I challenged major Christian Publishers and scholars that continued to produce publications promoting the Curse of Ham theory (a theory that justified slavery from a Christian perspective). My efforts resulted in a public apology and the removal of the 400 year old curse theory from all of their publications including removing it from the Encyclopedia Britannica (See attached letters and articles). My book: The 1993 Trial On The Curse of Ham was based on that research.

Most of my adult life I have voted for, and worked with a number of Democratic candidates at the local level. In 1996, I served as a member of the Washington State Black Clergy to Re-elect President Bill Clinton and worked closely with the co-chair. After President Clinton was re-elected, I was challenged by a group of young people from our church regarding the history of the Democratic Party and their relationship with blacks. Their challenge prompted me to devote a considerable amount of time researching the subject.

My research included reviewing Congressional Records from 1860 to present, reading the works of several renowned history professors (both black and white) and looking at the Democratic Platform from the early 1800’s to 1954. In addition to these documents I reviewed the research of those who produced the books: Without Sanctuary, 100 Years of Lynchings and added to my library the History Channel’s series on The Rise and Fall of Jim Crow and Reconstruction: The Second Civil War. Excerpts from those books and film documentaries were included as exhibits in my Reparations lawsuit against the Democratic Party.

The graphic depictions of whites fighting over the private parts of black men (penises, fingers, ears) after hanging them and igniting them with kerosene, is forever embedded in my mind. I can still hear the cries of the victims’ wives and children pleading and begging for the lives of their loved ones while Democratic national and local elected officials joined the crowd and cheered. The lynching of Mary Turner, the nine-month pregnant mother was even more horrific and graphic. All of these events took place under the banner of “States Rights” in regions controlled by Democratic governors, mayors, judges, sheriffs, Congressmen and U.S. Senators. Like Dr King, my parents lived through those times in Atlanta and I never fully appreciated what they and other blacks went through until I had completed my research.

In addition to lynchings and terrorist attacks by the Democrat’s terrorist organizations (as revealed in the 1871 Senate hearings), Democrats legislated Black Codes, Jim Crow laws and a multitude of other repressive legislation at the federal and state levels (and repealed other key pieces of Civil Rights legislation) all in an effort to deny blacks their rights as citizens. The entire system of racism in America was meticulously thought-out and carried-out by a powerful political machine. And that political machine according to historians, was the Democratic Party - the party of “White Supremacy.”

Based on these findings, I sent the attached (April 5, 2004) letter to the DNC requesting that they issue an apology to African Americans. In 2005, I sent a second letter to the DNC, again requesting an apology. When the DNC ignored these requests, I filed my first lawsuit on December 10, 2005. Prior to my letters, members of the Congressional Black Caucus sent former Congressman JC Watts the letter below (on January 28, 1999). In that letter the Caucus told Mr. Watts and his Republican counterparts to:“Clearly and publicly distance themselves from the CCC and any other white supremacist, anti-semitic or hate groups….” In my letter to the DNC, I expressed similar sentiments. I told the DNC “An apology is one of the only ways modern-day Democrats can distance themselves from the party’s racist past while bringing some closure to the African American Community.” Instead of apologizing, Howard Dean hired one of the most powerful law-firms in the country, to defend the party’s racist past.

Without an apology and repentance there is no way the Democratic Party can ever sincerely honor Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Ms Rosa Parks; two individuals who literally gave their lives to destroy the racist programs, policies and practices that were established by the Democratic Party. And without an apology and repentance there is no way the Democratic Party can ever respect African Americans. Their past programs and practices from slavery through Jim Crow which literally destroyed the lives of millions of blacks, was an act of mass murder. And to hire an attorney to defend that racist past is not only an official endorsement of murder - it is an insult to the entire black race and to those whites who gave their lives to eliminate racial injustice. .

I look forward to your response.

Sincerely

Rev. Wayne Perryman

Shape Shifter 01-12-2006 04:05 PM

Ann Coulter left the reservation....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
Call me crazy but Ann Coulter is single and forty something (and clearly not a virgin) therefore hasn't she had sex with men that she did want to have children with?
Please post some sort of warning before you write something like this. I just ate lunch.

sebastian_dangerfield 01-12-2006 04:38 PM

The so called "experts".
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
only reason is, if we stopped that then we'd need to shut down the IRS. that would be a big loss of government employee jobs, so the Dems would never approve it.
The Dems are suspiciously absent from the debate over simplification of the tax code. Kind of a tricky issue for them. On one hand, it helps the poor. On the other, it hurts lawyers and bureaucrats, two of the Dems’ favorite voting blocs.

sebastian_dangerfield 01-12-2006 04:40 PM

Lawsuit against the Democratic party for reparations for slavery.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
Does anyone think Penske had anything to do with this?

from the office

of

Rev. Wayne Perryman

P.O. Box 256 Mercer Island, WA 98040 (206) 232-5575 Doublebro@aol.com



January 9, 2006



Attention Congressional & Community Leaders:

I thought it would only be fitting and proper to provide an explanation as to what brought about the Reparations lawsuit against the Democratic Party. Before I share with you the chain of events that led to the lawsuit, I thought that perhaps I should give you a brief background on myself and my past political affiliation.

I am a community activist and an inner-city minister located in Seattle Washington. In addition to working with gang members and professional athletes, I spend my leisure time doing research. In 1993, based on personal research, I challenged major Christian Publishers and scholars that continued to produce publications promoting the Curse of Ham theory (a theory that justified slavery from a Christian perspective). My efforts resulted in a public apology and the removal of the 400 year old curse theory from all of their publications including removing it from the Encyclopedia Britannica (See attached letters and articles). My book: The 1993 Trial On The Curse of Ham was based on that research.

Most of my adult life I have voted for, and worked with a number of Democratic candidates at the local level. In 1996, I served as a member of the Washington State Black Clergy to Re-elect President Bill Clinton and worked closely with the co-chair. After President Clinton was re-elected, I was challenged by a group of young people from our church regarding the history of the Democratic Party and their relationship with blacks. Their challenge prompted me to devote a considerable amount of time researching the subject.

My research included reviewing Congressional Records from 1860 to present, reading the works of several renowned history professors (both black and white) and looking at the Democratic Platform from the early 1800’s to 1954. In addition to these documents I reviewed the research of those who produced the books: Without Sanctuary, 100 Years of Lynchings and added to my library the History Channel’s series on The Rise and Fall of Jim Crow and Reconstruction: The Second Civil War. Excerpts from those books and film documentaries were included as exhibits in my Reparations lawsuit against the Democratic Party.

The graphic depictions of whites fighting over the private parts of black men (penises, fingers, ears) after hanging them and igniting them with kerosene, is forever embedded in my mind. I can still hear the cries of the victims’ wives and children pleading and begging for the lives of their loved ones while Democratic national and local elected officials joined the crowd and cheered. The lynching of Mary Turner, the nine-month pregnant mother was even more horrific and graphic. All of these events took place under the banner of “States Rights” in regions controlled by Democratic governors, mayors, judges, sheriffs, Congressmen and U.S. Senators. Like Dr King, my parents lived through those times in Atlanta and I never fully appreciated what they and other blacks went through until I had completed my research.

In addition to lynchings and terrorist attacks by the Democrat’s terrorist organizations (as revealed in the 1871 Senate hearings), Democrats legislated Black Codes, Jim Crow laws and a multitude of other repressive legislation at the federal and state levels (and repealed other key pieces of Civil Rights legislation) all in an effort to deny blacks their rights as citizens. The entire system of racism in America was meticulously thought-out and carried-out by a powerful political machine. And that political machine according to historians, was the Democratic Party - the party of “White Supremacy.”

Based on these findings, I sent the attached (April 5, 2004) letter to the DNC requesting that they issue an apology to African Americans. In 2005, I sent a second letter to the DNC, again requesting an apology. When the DNC ignored these requests, I filed my first lawsuit on December 10, 2005. Prior to my letters, members of the Congressional Black Caucus sent former Congressman JC Watts the letter below (on January 28, 1999). In that letter the Caucus told Mr. Watts and his Republican counterparts to:“Clearly and publicly distance themselves from the CCC and any other white supremacist, anti-semitic or hate groups….” In my letter to the DNC, I expressed similar sentiments. I told the DNC “An apology is one of the only ways modern-day Democrats can distance themselves from the party’s racist past while bringing some closure to the African American Community.” Instead of apologizing, Howard Dean hired one of the most powerful law-firms in the country, to defend the party’s racist past.

Without an apology and repentance there is no way the Democratic Party can ever sincerely honor Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Ms Rosa Parks; two individuals who literally gave their lives to destroy the racist programs, policies and practices that were established by the Democratic Party. And without an apology and repentance there is no way the Democratic Party can ever respect African Americans. Their past programs and practices from slavery through Jim Crow which literally destroyed the lives of millions of blacks, was an act of mass murder. And to hire an attorney to defend that racist past is not only an official endorsement of murder - it is an insult to the entire black race and to those whites who gave their lives to eliminate racial injustice. .

I look forward to your response.

Sincerely

Rev. Wayne Perryman
"Doublebro"? This fellow has four man breasts?

ltl/fb 01-12-2006 04:40 PM

The so called "experts".
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
The Dems are suspiciously absent from the debate over simplification of the tax code. Kind of a tricky issue for them. On one hand, it helps the poor. On the other, it hurts lawyers and bureaucrats, two of the Dems’ favorite voting blocs.
I don't think tax lawyers are a huge Demo constituency. Nor are accountants, as far as I can tell. I think it is trial lawyers, more, if anything.

sebastian_dangerfield 01-12-2006 05:02 PM

The so called "experts".
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I don't think tax lawyers are a huge Demo constituency. Nor are accountants, as far as I can tell. I think it is trial lawyers, more, if anything.
I guess YMMV, but most non-trial-lawyer lawyers I know are Dems. A lot of them seem to be Dems because they appear to believe that the law is a catalyst for good, and should be used to "manage" society as much as practicable. Or they just throw that bullshit at me because they don't want to admit that, like trial lawyers, they're just protecting their marketplace.

More rules = more law talking = more business.

A good buddy of mine is an idealistic crusader type. Total comedy. He'll rattle off why we need so many interfering laws and agencies to help the little guy. But we both know that when he votes, he votes GOP for tax reasons.

Replaced_Texan 01-12-2006 05:08 PM

The so called "experts".
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
The Dems are suspiciously absent from the debate over simplification of the tax code. Kind of a tricky issue for them. On one hand, it helps the poor. On the other, it hurts lawyers and bureaucrats, two of the Dems’ favorite voting blocs.
Recent Molly Ivins article:
Quote:

Which brings us to the Democratic Leadership Council and the Al From-Bruce Reed take on what we should do now. The DLC is regularly condemned as being Republican Lite, but it seems to me that its problem is being Light Lite. The From-Reed proposal is security, values, opportunity and reform -- a perfect symphony of the obvious. I do like their Opportunity ideas:

Create high-wage jobs by making the United States the top exporter of energy-efficient products.

Cut $300 billion in subsidies and invest it in innovation, education and growth.

Pass tax reform to replace 60 tax breaks with four: college, homes, kids and universal pensions.

ltl/fb 01-12-2006 05:11 PM

The so called "experts".
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I guess YMMV, but most non-trial-lawyer lawyers I know are Dems. A lot of them seem to be Dems because they appear to believe that the law is a catalyst for good, and should be used to "manage" society as much as practicable. Or they just throw that bullshit at me because they don't want to admit that, like trial lawyers, they're just protecting their marketplace.

More rules = more law talking = more business.

A good buddy of mine is an idealistic crusader type. Total comedy. He'll rattle off why we need so many interfering laws and agencies to help the little guy. But we both know that when he votes, he votes GOP for tax reasons.
So, he would or wouldn't be pro-tax reform?

Most lawyers I am friends with are Dems. Most lawyers I have worked with are not.

Hank Chinaski 01-12-2006 05:14 PM

The so called "experts".
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
So, he would or wouldn't be pro-tax reform?

Most lawyers I am friends with are Dems. Most lawyers I have worked with are not.
if you were starting a country what form of tax structure would you use?

ltl/fb 01-12-2006 05:16 PM

The so called "experts".
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
if you were starting a country what form of tax structure would you use?
STP.

SlaveNoMore 01-12-2006 05:16 PM

The so called "experts".
 
Quote:

ltl/fb
I don't think tax lawyers are a huge Demo constituency. Nor are accountants, as far as I can tell. I think it is trial lawyers, more, if anything.
You're a Dem.

TaxHottie is a Dem.

Wonk is a Dem.

Need I go on?


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