NFL Wives - A defense
 

I just wrote a long eloquent post that got eaten about why it's not what I would have done, but it wasn't SO bad a decision for the Wives to use the Fast-Forward. This will be shorter.

1) They've got it out of the way. That's one less decision they'll have to agonize over for the rest of the race.

2) Fast forwards are over-rated anyways. Lots of teams have gone for the FF only to find it gone, thus costing lots of time. Moreover, remember the Guidos, whose fast forward would have gotten them eliminated, but for the mother-daughter who flat out quit. And remember, there's no FF once it's down to 3 teams.

3) A couple of hours gain at this stage is probably pretty valuable. They're not leaving Europe for awhile, therefore no big airport catch-up opportunities.

3b) Because of what happened at the airport, they probably thought they needed to get their race-legs and regroup. Maybe they think they have a comparative advantage at figuring out the game and getting better as it goes on, thus they needed the "artificial" help now.

These points are all debatable, and again, it's not the choice I would have made, but it wasn't all that bad either.

can't connect the dots?
 

With a name like connect_the_dots, one would expect you could connect them. How dissappointing. Did you know "pure profit" is a term of art?

ay yi yi
 

This is too confusing for me... what the f is going on here? Man, am I late to this party. HELP.

ay yi yi
 

Just watch paigow princess, do what she does, and you'll be fine.

can't connect the dots if the dots aren't there?
 

Since non-accounting costs can't be accurately calculated, how could it be otherwise. Some people, however, probably did not know that "pure profit" is a term of art. Since you learn something new everyday, I am sure that the people reading this board now who haven't fulfilled their quota can go home now. Thanks for sharing. Bye bye now.

Ct(but you didn't specify after-tax profits, so blame me for your ambiguity why don't you)D

Asian fetish
 

Geez, send hubby to a massage parlor for crissakes.

Asian fetish
 

Hey stranger--where ya been?

tm

Where have I been?
 

Haven't been able to figure this board out yet; the othe board is doa -- as a result I have been very very productive.

"Lucky"
 

So I caught the Lucky midseason marathon and have watched them all. I think the show is great but I have a few complaints.

1) The chips they use look nothing like real casino chips.

2) The same actor who played Murray the meat guy is also the Trache. That's just odd.

3) In the episode where Lucky is pretending to Theresa that he's not gambling anymore, and she walks in the casino and catches him, Lucky has pocket kings, and a king comes on the turn, and another on the river (with a straight-type board). He's getting huge action, but once he sees Theresa's disgusted look just as he pushes in his chips, he then folds his four kings.
No gambler would ever do that. Ever. Seemed very unrealistic to me, even given his pre-established love-hate relationship with money and gambling.

but it's a great show. Watch it.

In my opinion...
 

...hot 30-year-old guys should not be gynocologists. I felt like he should have bought me a drink first and that I should kiss him on my way out.

Also, gynocologists should make no effort to carry on a normal conversation. Just don't even try.

In my opinion...
 

Ms. dL concurrs. Then again, she's had a female gynocologist/primary care doc as long as I have known her, which, all things considered, is probably a really healthy way to treat.

Kayaking v. Komputing
 

Here's a link to a New York Times article about Spam/spam that eerily references a divisive comment from last week.

"By the mid- to late 1980's, the fan base of Monty Python and those who frequented emerging chat networks called MUDs (for multi-user dungeons) had sufficiently merged. 'We're not talking about people who were out kayaking in their free time,' said Joel K. Furr, one of those early non-kayakers and now a technical trainer for the IDX Systems Corporation in Vermont."

Books and such
 

I'm reading "The Russian Debutante's Handbook," a first novel by some guy with a long name I can never remember. It's fantastic, really. I second whoever was talking about High Fidelity. I love Nick Hornby's books. Fever Pitch is great, as is About a Boy. Completely unrelated book: "A Season on the Brink" by David Halberstram about the year he spent with the Portland Trail Blazers.

Music: For good music to work to, I recommend Sigur Ros and Godspeed You Black Emperor. Trendy yes, but very very soothing. Well Godspeed is maybe not so soothing with the eerie apocalyptic rantings dispersed throughout. But it's still cool.

Movie club: I love Patrice Leconte. I'm not sure how crazy I was about the last 15 minutes of Man on the Train, but his other films are awesome. If you've got Netflix or a good video store nearby, get:

The Girl on the Bridge
The Hairdresser's Husband
Mr. Hire

I've not seen his other ones, but I'm sure they're worth watching.

My other favorite foreign director is Aki Kaurisimaki. Run don't walk to see:
The Match Factory Girl
Hamlet Goes Business
I Hired a Contract Killer
and the somewhat overrated but still amusing "Leningrad Cowboys Go America"

That's it for me.

Her Husband's Asian Obsession
 

This is so naive. You must be married to an asian and have a history of dating mostly asians, or all asians, and are in denial about the fetish. If you are into something solely bc they are that something, and you like all the somethings as a blanket rule bc they are the somtthing and it really turns you on and is the focus of your sexual desire, its a fetish. Same thing with feet. I have at least three male friends, , who have spent serious time (ranging one to thirteen years) in Asia in pursuit of the women. That's not a fetish?

This is differnt than digging a person who happens to be an asian.

Her Husband's Asian Obsession
 

Not same thing. all women have, or should have feet, so a foot fetish isn't looking only for women with feet, he simply has an intended use for the feet once he meets the attached women. I suppose one with an attraction to women without feet might better fit your theory. That hypothetical man would be seeking out a women based upon a particular look, like the asian chaser at issue here.

Hipster Ironicus*
 

This Washington Post article this weekend reminded me of this board, largely because of our enthusiastic embrace of nonwhitebread topics (and not, mind you, that we fit within this weird demographic).

After all, while we'll spend days debating the merits of anal sex, I doubt any of us would pose with Cheetos bags over our heads.


Gattigap



* note: this is the article's reference, not my own. This board has caused me to remove the term ironic from my vocabulary altogether.

Online Monday
 

Wow, nice job there Heather. Not only did she not bother to report any of the items she got from me when she apparently wasted my time on an interview, she took a quote from Mr from the board, out of context.

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1052440819671

I sent her an email asking her (a) why she bothered to interview me and (b) why she used MR's quote from the board out of context.


I know she interviewed Slave, Less and lord knows how many others. I have no problem with her story in and of itself, I just have to wonder why she bothered with all the research, and why she wasted all of our time.

Online Monday
 

I do. It ascribes motivations to everyone here without any support. If the article simply explained West's desire to "clean up" the FL boards, that would be one thing, but the article really makes the (unsupported) claim that lawtalkers was founded principally to indulge our "potty mouths." Perhaps that was part of the motivation, but it really misses the bigger picture.

I have no idea what you (leagl) discussed with the interviewer, but the article, as written, is pretty poor reporting. It reads more like an editorial, or, worse, west propaganda.

OnLine Monday
 

Is heather a lawyer? She certainly does not appear to be a journalist. What was the point of the article? That GA's only care about swearing and West has a whole web strategy that doesn't include swearing?

What a fucking concept.

aV

Her Husband's Asian Obsession
 

That's a non-relevant distinction. Fetish is not so limited.

(from dictionary.com)

fetish:

1. An object that is believed to have magical or spiritual powers, especially such an object associated with animistic or shamanistic religious practices.
2. An object of unreasonably excessive attention or reverence: made a fetish of punctuality.
3. Something, such as a material object or a nonsexual part of the body, that arouses sexual desire and may become necessary for sexual gratification.
4. An abnormally obsessive preoccupation or attachment; a fixation.

At least def'ns 2 and 4 would allow for an "asian fetish." The (apparent) fact of it is that he has a particular attraction to women who are asian. We can argue whether it's "abnormally obsessive," but I don't see how you (or atticus, or whoever it was) can say it's definitely not a fetish.

OnLine Monday
 

In Heather's defense, she is probably an idiot and didn't know any better. I am sure she would apologize for wasting each of your collective times if she were smart enough to know that what she did was wrong. When she is done watching teletubbies, I will give her a good talking to.

Her Husband's Asian Obsession
 

bear with me.... given your definitions,( which are helpful, but dictionary definitions are limited tools and in the end we all must work from the vernacular) Paigow was saying Def 3 is the Same as your stretch of 2 or 4. A foot fetish is def. 3, no factual dispute. Perhaps the asian chasers meets def. 2 or 4, but there is a factual issue. So he at least has a chance, and I think a very good chance to show it is not a fetish, but rather a stylistic choice. Pardon the legal analysis, but I've just had a judge do something very bad in a SJ motion, and my mind is in this mode.

The Article, and the Asian Thing
 

I'm humbled to see we haven't 'grown up' as West has, since all we ever wanted was to use naughty language. :rolleyes:

On the Asian-obsession thing, I don't think the woman is racist for noticing that her husband has a racist obsession with Asian women only and for being nervous every time her panting husband slobbers all over every such woman he sees. She's right to assume that it's only a matter of time before he cheats with an asian woman, assuming he can find one to say yes, as he has shown that's who he's attracted to exclusively. She was certainly victim-blaming to ditch her innocent friend instead of her sleazeball husband after he made a pass--but I can certainly see where it would be uncomfortable for all parties and painful for the wife to hang out after that.

Her Husband's Asian Obsession
 

That's fair. My initial use of the word and, I think, paigow's defense of the word, were based on a reading of the letter that suggested some sort of particular obsession, NTTATWT. Of course, who the hell really knows. Women with skirt-chasing husbands aren't always the most keenly analytical about what their husbands are actually doing.

article
 

Heather and I spoke at length about our reasons for leaving, none of which were specifically so we could use foul language. The reasons I gave her were the same reasons I have discussed elsewhere, how the changes were inplemented and how we were treated.

She misrepresented our reasons for leaving. In response to my question she tells me that she used me and the others for background. I have to ask what background since she ignored what I told her. In addition she said she used the MR quote cause it was funny and showed we wouldn't censor the users.

It sure was a funny thing when he said it originally, but it doesn't look like she is using it as a joke to me. It rather looks to be a continued attack upon us for using foul language.

more reality tv
 

from realityblurred --

Taking a break from finding America's most something somebody, NBC's debuts For Love or Money tonight. The show follows a bachelor's search for a partner from a group of "15 beautiful girls [who] come for love but are surprised to learn in the first episode that there is also a million dollar prize at stake -- but the winner and the bachelor will not know that she ultimately must choose between the man of her dreams or $1 million." The show's bachelor is a 33-year-old laywer, Rob, and his 15 suitors all appear to have nearly the exact same haircut.

Online Monday
 

Journalists simplify. That's what they do, and (let's face it) the easiest and simplest explanation -- and most interesting for those reading the article -- for the Great GA Schism of 2003 is the imposition of the language filters. Oh, sure, we all know that the filters were merely the visible symbol of West's arbitrary and sudden changes. But it sounds so much better to say that those spoiled GAs left because they couldn't say "fuck."

And to a journalist, there is no such thing as a quote out of context. Their likely response to that complaint? Well, MR said it, we just reported it.

Finally, it is possible that Heather (aren't we all picturing Winona Ryder at this point? No? Uh, neither was I. Really.) (Apropos of nothing, I miss Rb.) wrote a superb, balanced, informative, and detailed story, which was promptly sliced and diced by an editor to fit the mold.

C'est la vie.

article
 

Since we can say it on this board:

FUCK HEATHER!!!

article
 

Putting aside our own personal feelings about the (mis)representations about the site, it is a fascinating story of corporate public relations. Essentially, it's a puff piece for West, engendered to reinforce their image to law firm managers who might have been concerned about West's involvement in the GAs after so many state bar journals wrote about the spilt, and drew the connection in the first place.

I say, well done, Heather. She used enough quotes to not make it look as if she cut and pasted their entire press release.

more reality tv
 

They also seem to have trained him to have a Joe Millionaire look as much as possible.

That said, the outcome was made rather clear when he told Katie Couric that if she had been on the show, he would have picked her. Sure, he's kissing up and probably being facetious, but that doesn't sound like a man who found true love. And if he did, true love took the money and ran. Wouldn't you? I mean, $1m vs. a guy you met only a few weeks before? You can buy a lot of love with $1m.

article
 

Heh. Frankly, I had been waiting for something like this to happen. I figured all the other articles good such a good job of conveying our point of view, sooner or later someone would just say, hey they wanted to curse so they left. Or worse.

Unfaithful
 

This morning, I awoke and tried to unravel the disturbing dream I had last night that I had cheated on the OddMan with a member of the New Jersey Nets.

Inside the dream, I kept wondering why was I having an affair, and why with Richard Jefferson, since he is a child.

Fully awake, I realized it was from watching Unfaithful last night, and then falling asleep to sports center while waiting for the OddMan to call from Canada.

Unfaithful is an interesting movie that could have been great had it been directed by anyone other than Adrian Lyne. Diane Lane is extraordinary and fully deserved all of the accolades bestowed upon her for that performance.

Just don't watch it too close to bedtime . . .


Edited to specify which Net, at the suggestion of one of our more perverse members (Leagl) who assumed I had an affair with the entire team.

more reality tv
 

Why are there so many lawyers on these shows, do you think?

article
 

E/O, you summed it up perfectly.

The article wasn't meant to be informative. In fact, it wasn't even really an article. It was a piece on Westlaw. We just happened to be in it.

And NotBob, this:

"Finally, it is possible that Heather wrote a superb, balanced, informative, and detailed story, which was promptly sliced and diced by an editor to fit the mold."

makes no sense to me. Who cares? Blaming the author or the editor or the primary shareholder of Law.com really isn't the point. The point is they screwed up the article and didn't even attempt to address the real reasons behind the move. Hell, Leagle said they had our side of the story but decided to treat that as "background." What? Clearly she approached the story from one side only. Our side of the story is not background to Westlaw's side. If you don't tell it properly, or at all, you don't have a news article. You have an advertisment for WestLaw.

TM

Ah well.

What do they say, any publicity is good publicity?

Perhaps those similarly inclined (or at least very foul mouthed?) will come join us ;)

The last time we had an article in a major publication we got 100+ new members. We'll have to see what happens.

more reality tv
 

Too socially retarded from excessive life-hours spent billing to be able to get a date the normal way. Plus, who doesn't want a harem of avaricious attractive bimbos offering sexual favors in exchange for a chance at a 'win'?

more reality tv
 

Plus in our cultural shorthand "attorney" means wealthy and smart.

:rolleyes:

Her Husband's Asian Obsession
 

I have read that a cheap husband is statistically the least likely to cheat on his wife (which, if true, there is one less thing I have to worry about...)

article
 

Sounds like a good time to go forward with the online dating idea.

article
 

In that case, FUCK HEATHER.



Seven (pardon my French) of Nine