Re: Chimney Sweep
 

Ouch. When you start comparing someone to sunny..... ouch.

Re: Thought of Thurgreed when I read this.
 

Another show I've never seen.

Re: Thought of Thurgreed when I read this.
 

i thought dr phil was on oprah (translation- I'm so fucking hip I didn't even know dr phil has his own show.)

hank chinaski
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Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

or this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...l_Coverart.png

Re: Thought of Thurgreed when I read this.
 

You score like a frenchman.

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

Wait a second. I don't know much about soccer, but you're telling me, in a sport where players act like they've been tripped, flopping all over the field, when there has been no contact at all, a player who has touched the ball with his hand will immediately stop play, admit to it and give the ball up instead of play on until there's been a whistle?

As for Hank's comment, I've never seen such a blatant hand ball. He almost fucking caught it. Usually, the ball accidentally touches your hand or arm. If that had been the case, the goalie probably would have played on. But it was so blatant this time, he must have been in shock. I do agree with you, though. I don't care what sport it is. I learned early on while playing organized sports (later to be painfully re-confirmed by Chuck fucking Knoblauch), that you play until you hear the whistle. There is no excuse to do otherwise.

TM

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

Ha. That's pretty fucking funny.

TM

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

At least you are willing to say that. I don't know much about basketball.

An inadvertent touch, no. You would jump from it like a hot coal, but you wouldn't stop play. But a catch like that, yes. A player will put up their hand, will hold the ball, will tell the ref, . . . yes. I have seen all of these happen on the field in several different leagues in at least four* different countries and with players from all over the world. I never played in France or Ireland. They may see it differently. I doubt it.

His half-assed admission that it was inadvertent was telling. He knew the tape would be obvious.

Most players take the game fairly seriously. Taking a fall is part of the game. Handling the ball is not.

Exactly. Shock, surprise, expecting the whistle or the guy to own up to the handball.

And I think Burger has covered that well enough.


*I'm counting East Germany and West Germany each as a separate country since the wall was still there at the time. I am not counting San Diego as a separate country from Mexico since the wall there has never been very effective. Just to be clear.

Re: Chimney Sweep
 

Although I am, indeed, a bit tired of the continual whiff calling, it is actually the whole "Can somebody who is more experienced in these matters determine the exact form of whiff that this is?" device that I find to be played out. Plus, my post was not a whiff because, until I posted it, you were unaware that there were features that allowed you to increase the font size, italicize it, and change the color. I apparently was unaware of the ability to fatten the font.

Re: Chimney Sweep
 

Just so we are clear, and because I value your expertise in matters such as this, is there a new category of whiff that consists of pointing out an intentional ironic whiff? A meta-whiff, if you will. DYKWIMAITYD?

Re: Chimney Sweep
 

IKWYM. But my experience in all matters meta, ironic, and post-modern is actually quite limited. Adder?

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

"I've seen" is much different than, "it's common practice." Would everyone who watches soccer (and I'm actually asking, here) say that this is amounts to an unspoken rule that players respect? If you intentionally touch the ball with your hand, you have to own up to it?

Agreed. Saying they should replay the game after the fact is ridiculous.

But I've never heard of a player going up to a ref (other than in tennis and golf) and saying, "The other side is right, I admit it, overturn the call."

On a side note, the flopping and rolling around in agony is so fucking stupid that it makes me want to turn an entertaining game off. It is absolutely ridiculous.

I don't. There will be plenty of time for whining afterward. Play until you hear the whistle.

TM

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

Sure. That's what Maradona did. "The hand of God."

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

i don't think you even can, can you? "thurgreed never fouled me! withdraw the foul!" they wouldn't.

but moreover, given the situation, the timing and the level of this game, I would say there was about 0% chance anyone would "admit it."

Re: instead of plating other shit they probably complained to god about the dead pota
 

Am I missing something? Wasn't that a hand ball that wasn't called?

TM