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Hank Chinaski 01-17-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 476568)
Ghostery's the shit. No banners, no cookies, no nothing.

Have you investigated how it is funded?

Adder 01-17-2013 10:14 PM

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speaking of people smarter than you, I hope you guys beat Michigan. Go .... What are you guys? Ps google image Tubby and Detroit mayor Dave Bing. Tubby with stache and weight loss is his twin.

Alas, we didn't play well and they can flat out shoot.

Adder 01-17-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 476567)
That's how advertisers see it. You're a mark. And it's axiomatic: The more a thing has to be marketed, the less value it intrinsically provides. I know what I want, and I seek it out. When something seeks me out desperately, I instinctively avoid it. (Kind of like a sorority girl. I only chase what's indifferent to me.)

Nothing is changing, unless you start seeing that which you want.

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I shudder to wonder what kid of person not only allows banner ads (who doesn't use ad block?), but actually clicks on them.
I've never seen the point of blocking them. They pay for what I want to read and they're super easy to ignore.

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And find what? Who has a computer with a unique internet device number listed to his own name? Who has a Facebook account linked to an email account not exclusively used for FB (holding no other contacts or info, save false data needed to open up the dummy email account)?
Oh, boy. So naive.

Tyrone Slothrop 01-18-2013 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 476566)
Except that Facebook is aiming to generate revenue simply from displaying ads, not from clickthroughs like google-hence their partnership with Datalogix.

I don't think the pregnant women receiving Target coupons for formula and diapers necessarily saw added value from receiving those coupons.

ETA: "From" would be the correct preposition, Hank.

They will be driven to pay-per-click instead of pay-per-image because it makes more economic sense.

But the more fundamental point doesn't have anything to do with advertising. You give Google (and Bing, if you are one of the two people who use it) data about yourself, and they give you search results -- free!

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-18-2013 08:41 AM

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This was posted in another forum. It's nice to see one of the authors of the Patriot Act get religion (I suspect she takes the position only for partisan purposes, but, who knows, maybe she is starting to travel Lessig's road away from the right and becoming an ACLU ally). But the incident is pretty outrageous, though just as outrageous are the limitations on a court's ability to effectively try the case.

taxwonk 01-18-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 476577)
This was posted in another forum. It's nice to see one of the author's of the Patriot Act get religion (I suspect she takes the position only for partisan purposes, but, who knows, maybe she is starting to travel Lessig's road away from the right and becoming an ACLU ally). But the incident is pretty outrageous, though just as outrageous are the limitations on a court's ability to effectively try the case.

The courts have had a number of opportunities to throw the Patriot Act out. It's an abomination and it is about as constitutionally valid as the Watergate break-in. They just lack a spine.

So many fucking people are whining about not wanting to cause a constitutional crisis. They can't seem to grasp that when the President is freely killing people, we already have a constitutional crisis.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-18-2013 12:38 PM

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The courts have had a number of opportunities to throw the Patriot Act out. It's an abomination and it is about as constitutionally valid as the Watergate break-in. They just lack a spine.

So many fucking people are whining about not wanting to cause a constitutional crisis. They can't seem to grasp that when the President is freely killing people, we already have a constitutional crisis.

Yeah, I have this on-again off-again relationship with the ACLU that probably needs to be on again. The problem is they do great work with a bunch of stuff, including this one, and then do stupid things like challenge patents relating to fundamental discoveries that would just kill stuff I care deeply about. I listened to a couple of their attorneys talk aobut their patent case a year or two ago and left just shaking the old head.

But the Patriot Act is why I sort of shake my head at that particular write up. If Leahy wrote it, I'd be cheering. But coming from an architect of past constitutional excesses, I'm a bit wary. Sometimes, even when you like the message, you want to shoot the messanger (metaphorically, of course).

sebastian_dangerfield 01-18-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 476569)
Have you investigated how it is funded?

You can opt out of that permanently at the install stage. (Whether they're being honest about that is another matter, of course...).

Hank Chinaski 01-18-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 476580)
You can opt out of that permanently at the install stage. (Whether they're being honest about that is another matter, of course...).

I meant they must have some way of making money, which normally involves data mining or ads.

Tyrone Slothrop 01-18-2013 02:19 PM

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What a huge victory for Obama.

Gattigap 01-18-2013 02:35 PM

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What a huge victory for Obama.

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Tyrone Slothrop 01-18-2013 03:02 PM

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?

The GOP blinked on the debt ceiling.

taxwonk 01-18-2013 03:05 PM

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I, for one, am shocked.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-18-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 476590)
I, for one, am shocked.

Me, too. Did the GOP decide they had enough crazy to focus on protecting murders and rapists so they didn't need to tank the economy to keep their base happy?

Any way you look at it, better than a trillion dollar coin.

Hank Chinaski 01-18-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 476591)
Me, too. Did the GOP decide they had enough crazy to focus on protecting murders and rapists so they didn't need to tank the economy to keep their base happy?

Any way you look at it, better than a trillion dollar coin.

The really weird thing is that most of his "victories" should not have been a fight in the first place. This is what I said he should do years ago. Stand up to the insane, say "fuck you, you want to shut the Government down, go ahead." That is how Clinton got hand back about Newt and his boys.


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