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futbol fan 11-28-2005 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
But of course the man is insanely talented. Shit, he must connect with somebody. But for a music snob like me, he's just not cutting it. Close, but not quite there. He can arguably hang with Bobby, but doesn't belong in the same hotel with Jerry. And he's not qualified to shine Cash's boots.
This is about the horns, isn't it?

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 11-28-2005 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Bruce is a solid rock star who had the good fortune to burst onto the scene while there were no good rock albums being made.


Yep, not much quality rawknroll back in '73. Oh, wait:

Aerosmith's debut
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Aladdin Sane
Houses of the Holy
New York Dolls
The Harder They Come soundtrack
Berlin
Raw Power
Quadrophenia
An obscure number titled "Dark Side of the Moon"
Brothers and Sisters

Etc., etc.

Shape Shifter 11-28-2005 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Yep, not much quality rawknroll back in '73. Oh, wait:

Aerosmith's debut
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Aladdin Sane
Houses of the Holy
New York Dolls
The Harder They Come soundtrack
Berlin
Raw Power
Quadrophenia
An obscure number titled "Dark Side of the Moon"
Brothers and Sisters

Etc., etc.
Don't forget this:

Roberta Flack releases "Killing Me Softly With His Song," based on a Lori Lieberman poem inspired by Lieberman's seeing Don McLean at a singing engagement in Los Angeles.

http://www.superseventies.com/1973.html

notcasesensitive 11-28-2005 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Yep, not much quality rawknroll back in '73. Oh, wait:

Aerosmith's debut
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Aladdin Sane
Houses of the Holy
New York Dolls
The Harder They Come soundtrack
Berlin
Raw Power
Quadrophenia
An obscure number titled "Dark Side of the Moon"
Brothers and Sisters

Etc., etc.
How many goddamned times does Sebby have to remind people not to tell him that an avocada is not a vegetable?

Flinty_McFlint 11-28-2005 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Yep, not much quality rawknroll back in '73. Oh, wait:

Aerosmith's debut
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Aladdin Sane
Houses of the Holy
New York Dolls
The Harder They Come soundtrack
Berlin
Raw Power
Quadrophenia
An obscure number titled "Dark Side of the Moon"
Brothers and Sisters

Etc., etc.
You forgot:

Ringo (Ringo Starr)

http://content.answers.com/main/cont...lbum_cover.jpg

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 11-28-2005 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flinty_McFlint
You forgot:

Ringo (Ringo Starr)

http://content.answers.com/main/cont...lbum_cover.jpg
How could I miss that one? Does it include "the no-no song?"

Shape Shifter 11-28-2005 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Don't forget this:

Roberta Flack releases "Killing Me Softly With His Song," based on a Lori Lieberman poem inspired by Lieberman's seeing Don McLean at a singing engagement in Los Angeles.

http://www.superseventies.com/1973.html
And speaking of rock poets, they'er comin' to your town, they'll help you party down:

"We're An American Band" - Grand Funk (8/18/73; #1)

Flinty_McFlint 11-28-2005 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
How could I miss that one? Does it include "the no-no song?"
No.

Not Bob 11-28-2005 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Don't forget this:

Roberta Flack releases "Killing Me Softly With His Song," based on a Lori Lieberman poem inspired by Lieberman's seeing Don McLean at a singing engagement in Los Angeles.

http://www.superseventies.com/1973.html
I'd have gone with Clint Holmes' "Playground In My Mind", but that's a mere quibble. Well-played, lizard boy.

Some decent albums on this list, including a few I still have on 8-track:

Top Albums of 1973:



Aloha From Hawaii Via Satellite - Elvis Presley *
Billion Dollar Babies - Alice Cooper
Brothers And Sisters - The Allman Brothers Band *
Dark Side Of The Moon - Pink Floyd *
Don't Shoot Me I'm Only The Piano Player - Elton John *
Goat's Head Soup - The Rolling Stones
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road - Elton John *
I Am Woman - Helen Reddy
I'm Still in Love with You - Al Green
Lady Sings the Blues - Diana Ross
No Secrets - Carly Simon *
Seventh Sojourn - The Moody Blues *
Summer Breeze - Seals & Crofts
Talking Book - Stevie Wonder *
There Goes Rhymin' Simon - Paul Simon *
They Only Come Out at Night - The Edgar Winter Group *
The World Is A Ghetto - War *

bilmore 11-28-2005 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Oh God, how the fuck did the debate over whether the Boss is overrated turn into a roundtable seminar on classicism in rock?
Ummm . . . when you started speaking about him in terms of classicism in rock?

bilmore 11-28-2005 06:03 PM

Fist Shaped Dildo
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Right now, I feel as if I never want to get married again. I've been separated for over a year now and I still feel like it would be going back to prison to get married again. Scares the crap out of me and I feel like I will never get over this.
Why would that - should that - scare you? How many people are qualified to speak knowledgably about which cultural icons are false myths and which aren't? Cherish your education. Most won't ever get that far.

greatwhitenorthchick 11-28-2005 06:08 PM

Fist Shaped Dildo
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Why would that - should that - scare you? How many people are qualified to speak knowledgably about which cultural icons are false myths and which aren't? Cherish your education. Most won't ever get that far.
Hmm, not entirely sure what you're saying, but I think it is something nice, so thank you.

bold_n_brazen 11-28-2005 06:14 PM

Fist Shaped Dildo
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Polygamist Wannabe? How many of the good ones do you think should be allocated to you?
I think I should be entitled to at least one. Well, at a time, any way.

bold_n_brazen 11-28-2005 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Oh God, how the fuck did the debate over whether the Boss is overrated turn into a roundtable seminar on classicism in rock?

I don't see Bruce as blue collar. Shit, he wrote about LBI, which ain't cheap stomping grounds (even in the 70s). The misinterpreted point I made was that his characters were too regional and time specific for him to ever reach the leval of Dylan, Dead, Doors, Sinatra, Cash, etc... Johnny Cash was the supposed epitome of blue collar music, yet his characters appealed across the board, to everybody. Bruce doesn't fail because his characters are stuck in the Mill, or spreading tar on a road crew. Bruce fails in my book because his characters are stuck in Central to Southern Jersey in the 70s. People were enamored with that scene back in the 70s, but not any more. Bruce is a solid rock star who had the good fortune to burst onto the scene while there were no good rock albums being made.

But of course the man is insanely talented. Shit, he must connect with somebody. But for a music snob like me, he's just not cutting it. Close, but not quite there. He can arguably hang with Bobby, but doesn't belong in the same hotel with Jerry. And he's not qualified to shine Cash's boots.
I find it hard to see how a song written from the point of view of a firefighter in the World Trade Center on 9/11 (The Rising) or one written from the point of view of a soldier in today's Iraq (Devils and Dust) can be based on "characters ... stuck in Central to Southern Jersey in the 70s".

But at least you'll acknowledge that he's talented.

Hank Chinaski 11-28-2005 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Yep, not much quality rawknroll back in '73. Oh, wait:

Aerosmith's debut
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Aladdin Sane
Houses of the Holy
New York Dolls
The Harder They Come soundtrack
Berlin
Raw Power
Quadrophenia
An obscure number titled "Dark Side of the Moon"
Brothers and Sisters

Etc., etc.
early Roxy Music's Country Life (seriously good- not just nice cover)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 11-28-2005 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
early Roxy Music's Country Life (seriously good- not just nice cover)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
You should get the wife to photoshop that for your next avatar.

ltl/fb 11-28-2005 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
early Roxy Music's Country Life (seriously good- not just nice cover)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
The one on the right -- no idea they were that good with the sex-change operations back then. Well, good with the body, if not the face.

notcasesensitive 11-28-2005 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
The one on the right -- no idea they were that good with the sex-change operations back then. Well, good with the body, if not the face.
I bet she (?) regrets shooting that cover well in advance of the days of commonplace computer airbrushing and retouching. And having such a fierce eyebrow/nose thing going on there.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 11-28-2005 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I bet she (?) regrets shooting that cover well in advance of the days of commonplace computer airbrushing and retouching. And having such a fierce eyebrow/nose thing going on there.
Nice tits, though.

Hank Chinaski 11-28-2005 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I bet she (?) regrets shooting that cover well in advance of the days of commonplace computer airbrushing and retouching. And having such a fierce eyebrow/nose thing going on there.
From the ncs sock, this seems a little bit petty. Did you consider posting this under your Ty@50 sock?

dtb 11-28-2005 08:27 PM

Monday Sucks
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ironweed
http://64.191.70.75/santa_dead.jpg
I can't decide whether my offspring is a genius or a sociopath (not that those are necessarily mutually exclusive options, I suppose.)

When he saw the above picture over my shoulder as I was scrolling through, he made the following commentary:
  • Santa Claus is dead? Oh. I can't believe Santa Claus is dead. [Brief pause.] I'm glad.

Hank Chinaski 11-28-2005 08:32 PM

Monday Sucks
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
I can't decide whether my offspring is a genius or a sociopath (not that those are necessarily mutually exclusive options, I suppose.)

When he saw the above picture over my shoulder as I was scrolling through, he made the following commentary:
  • Santa Claus is dead? Oh. I can't believe Santa Claus is dead. [Brief pause.] I'm glad.

Didn't you say your son told the little Christian boys at school Santa is a fake? Or do you mean your younger guy still believed in Santa?

Gattigap 11-28-2005 08:56 PM

Monday Sucks
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
I can't decide whether my offspring is a genius or a sociopath (not that those are necessarily mutually exclusive options, I suppose.)

When he saw the above picture over my shoulder as I was scrolling through, he made the following commentary:
  • Santa Claus is dead? Oh. I can't believe Santa Claus is dead. [Brief pause.] I'm glad.

What did he say about the Fist?

Hank Chinaski 11-28-2005 09:33 PM

Monday Sucks
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
What did he say about the Fist?
"Look mommy! that's what I saw you getting from Daddy last year?"

Diane_Keaton 11-28-2005 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
But of course the man is insanely talented.
Well, he must be talented if he was able to get droves of teens to scream his lyrics incessantly, and for grown women to use his music as a reference point for the most poignant times in their lives. Alas, I can hardly suffer through one of his songs (any song) and many others agree but he must be talented to have his following. And, he is apparently quite generous, down to earth and nice (besides dumping his wife who had the most adorable french-braided, low slung ponytail, complete with wispies and all). Too bad he sucks.

As for Johnny Cash -- WTF? Everybody's all of a sudden Johnny Cash afficianados when the movie comes out. Two months ago, nobody on the East Coast knew him, except for a vague image of him being "The Man in Black". (Just like Rwanda was on nobody's map until after Hotel Rwanda came out. Yeah, I'm a cynic, baby.) I'm gonna clear up the Cash versus Foghat (thanks, NotBobHat) versus Bruce for blue collar folks. Most blue collars I know on the East Coast (and I do know a lot) in the 70's and 80's listened to whatever music happened to be playing on the popular radio stations while in their cars and on their radios at home and didn't obsess about music as much as the Upper Middle Class kids.

Bring it on.

sebastian_dangerfield 11-28-2005 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Yep, not much quality rawknroll back in '73. Oh, wait:

Aerosmith's debut
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Aladdin Sane
Houses of the Holy
New York Dolls
The Harder They Come soundtrack
Berlin
Raw Power
Quadrophenia
An obscure number titled "Dark Side of the Moon"
Brothers and Sisters

Etc., etc.
1. I love Sweet Emotion, but Aerosmith??? Come onnnnn.
2. Agreed. A damn fine record.
3. See # 2 above.
4. You mean "That record with Over the Hills and The Ocean on it"?
5. Don't dig the Dolls.
6. Eh.
7. See # 2 and 3 above.
8. Bloated mess. Three thumbs down. Shoulda quit that shit after Tommy. But props to the Ox for some killer basslines on that album.
9. Touche.
10. No Eat a Peach, but Jessica and Wasted Words are great tunes.

Now, with the exception of Aerosmith, none of those reocrds would cross into the Boss' genre. I'll add a qualifier to address your retort - no good "average bar rock was coming out in 1973." The Boss filled in the vacuum.

sebastian_dangerfield 11-28-2005 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Well, he must be talented if he was able to get droves of teens to scream his lyrics incessantly, and for grown women to use his music as a reference point for the most poignant times in their lives. Alas, I can hardly suffer through one of his songs (any song) and many others agree but he must be talented to have his following. And, he is apparently quite generous, down to earth and nice (besides dumping his wife who had the most adorable french-braided, low slung ponytail, complete with wispies and all). Too bad he sucks.

As for Johnny Cash -- WTF? Everybody's all of a sudden Johnny Cash afficianados when the movie comes out. Two months ago, nobody on the East Coast knew him, except for a vague image of him being "The Man in Black". (Just like Rwanda was on nobody's map until after Hotel Rwanda came out. Yeah, I'm a cynic, baby.) I'm gonna clear up the Cash versus Foghat (thanks, NotBobHat) versus Bruce for blue collar folks. Most blue collars I know on the East Coast (and I do know a lot) in the 70's and 80's listened to whatever music happened to be playing on the popular radio stations while in their cars and on their radios at home and didn't obsess about music as much as the Upper Middle Class kids.

Bring it on.
You bite your lip, woman. I've liked Cash since I was a kid. My old man went thru a country phase in the late 70s and I heard Cash's early shit and liked it. Then I heard Rubin's great first album with Cash and thought "Damn. That's scary good." Cash to me is rock music. I like Dylan. I like the Dead. I love Neil. All great storytellers. Why wouldn't I dig Cash?

People who like music obssess about music. It has nothing to do with class.

bold_n_brazen 11-28-2005 10:01 PM

Making my last wishes known.
 
Notwithstanding the oh-so-shitty season my Eagles are having, and also notwithstanding my desire not to be cremated upon my death, should the Brazenette decide to dispose of her mom's remains this way, I wouldn't disapprove.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2239860


"I know that the last handful of ashes I had are laying on the field, and will never be taken away. She'll always be part of Lincoln Financial Field and of the Eagles," he said.

sebastian_dangerfield 11-28-2005 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bilmore
Ummm . . . when you started speaking about him in terms of classicism in rock?
I guess this is deserved. A victim of someone else's nearly-impossible-to-believe glaring lack of reading comprehension.

sebastian_dangerfield 11-28-2005 10:03 PM

Making my last wishes known.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Notwithstanding the oh-so-shitty season my Eagles are having, and also notwithstanding my desire not to be cremated upon my death, should the Brazenette decide to dispose of her mom's remains this way, I wouldn't disapprove.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2239860


"I know that the last handful of ashes I had are laying on the field, and will never be taken away. She'll always be part of Lincoln Financial Field and of the Eagles," he said.
Get with the program... We're all Penn St fans now.

You can always become a Florida State fa... err, uh, scratch that.

bold_n_brazen 11-28-2005 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Well, he must be talented if he was able to get droves of teens to scream his lyrics incessantly, and for grown women to use his music as a reference point for the most poignant times in their lives. Alas, I can hardly suffer through one of his songs (any song) and many others agree but he must be talented to have his following. And, he is apparently quite generous, down to earth and nice (besides dumping his wife who had the most adorable french-braided, low slung ponytail, complete with wispies and all). Too bad he sucks.

As for Johnny Cash -- WTF? Everybody's all of a sudden Johnny Cash afficianados when the movie comes out. Two months ago, nobody on the East Coast knew him, except for a vague image of him being "The Man in Black". (Just like Rwanda was on nobody's map until after Hotel Rwanda came out. Yeah, I'm a cynic, baby.) I'm gonna clear up the Cash versus Foghat (thanks, NotBobHat) versus Bruce for blue collar folks. Most blue collars I know on the East Coast (and I do know a lot) in the 70's and 80's listened to whatever music happened to be playing on the popular radio stations while in their cars and on their radios at home and didn't obsess about music as much as the Upper Middle Class kids.

Bring it on.
I'm pretty sure that I listened to a lot of disco in the late 70's. I remember going to record hops and Bar Mitzvahs and doing the hustle.

I know in the early 80's, I listened almost exclusively to "New Wave". Well, when I wasn't listening to The Who. I cringe to admit this now.

I didn't start to obsess about music until I was in college. But I agree with Sebby. People who like music get obsessive about it, no matter their socio-economic background.

bold_n_brazen 11-28-2005 10:09 PM

Making my last wishes known.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Get with the program... We're all Penn St fans now.

You can always become a Florida State fa... err, uh, scratch that.
I cannot be a Penn State fan. Although I remember fondly a road trip to Happy Valley to paint the lion orange.

Ty@50 11-28-2005 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I'll add a qualifier to address your retort - no good "average bar rock was coming out in 1973." The Boss filled in the vacuum.
Depends what kind of bars you were going to (I wasn't and you weren't, but you get what I mean).

Diane_Keaton 11-28-2005 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I find it hard to see how a song written from the point of view of a firefighter in the World Trade Center on 9/11 (The Rising) or one written from the point of view of a soldier in today's Iraq (Devils and Dust) can be based on "characters ... stuck in Central to Southern Jersey in the 70s".
See, the firefighter (like several others) probably lived across the Hudson in Jersey despite the rule about them having to live in NY. And the irony is that the firefighter probably thought BRUCE SUCKS and preferred Foghat and then Bruce goes ahead and writes a song from the firefighter's viewpoint after the fucker's dead, no shit! And the soldier from Iraq was born, raised and recruited from NJ. Ever heard of the New Jersey Devils? I thought so. Now look at the title of the song. Who's HE tryin to fool; damn!

str8outavannuys 11-29-2005 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
And speaking of rock poets, they'er comin' to your town, they'll help you party down:

"We're An American Band" - Grand Funk (8/18/73; #1)
Since the date cited is very close to my birthday, I decided to look up what was #1 on the day I was born.

In the US -- Let's Get It On, Marvin Gaye.
In the UK -- Young Love, Donny Osmond.

http://www.thisdayinmusic.com/member/birthdayno1.php

pony_trekker 11-29-2005 07:58 AM

Monday Sucks
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
I can't decide whether my offspring is a genius or a sociopath (not that those are necessarily mutually exclusive options, I suppose.)

When he saw the above picture over my shoulder as I was scrolling through, he made the following commentary:
  • Santa Claus is dead? Oh. I can't believe Santa Claus is dead. [Brief pause.] I'm glad.

Wow, so young to be bitter and jealous. Jeez just 'cause Christ and Santa skip his house he wishes them both dead?

Hank Chinaski 11-29-2005 08:46 AM

Grey Cup
 
The Grey Cup game was Sunday, and it was a great game. The lead changed a few times in the last few minutes, and the game went to OT.

But what was really neat is that the CFL is honest enough about what drives football that it has Beer ads ON THE PLAYERS. See upper left corner of jersey- the game was Edmonton Eskimos (normal Molson's) v. Montreal Alouettes (Molson's Export.)

http://www.esks.com/media/images/Gal...3/742F1535.jpg

http://www.mytelus.com/news_images/c...al/f070848.jpg


Molson's didn't have it set up this way, but once the NFL takes the beer ads on players step, maybe we won't have to watch the robot bottle bud V. bud light commercial.

spookyfish 11-29-2005 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
But of course [Springsteen] is insanely talented. Shit, he must connect with somebody. But for a music snob like me, he's just not cutting it. Close, but not quite there. He can arguably hang with Bobby, but doesn't belong in the same hotel with Jerry. And he's not qualified to shine Cash's boots.

Quote:

Originally posted by ironweed
This is about the horns, isn't it?
I guess he's never heard a little tune called "Ring of Fire".

dtb 11-29-2005 10:19 AM

Monday Sucks
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pony_trekker
Wow, so young to be bitter and jealous. Jeez just 'cause Christ and Santa skip his house he wishes them both dead?
Oh, please. He doesn't know from Jesus.

I'm pretty sure he had no idea there was such a thing as a non-Jew until he was 6 years old, and started going to a secular school.

ABBAKiss 11-29-2005 10:24 AM

Fist Shaped Dildo
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Right now, I feel as if I never want to get married again. I've been separated for over a year now and I still feel like it would be going back to prison to get married again. Scares the crap out of me and I feel like I will never get over this.
I'm with you. I've been divorced for almost a year, and went through an intense relationship with another person during that time that ended in utter confusion. I will probably never even have a steady boyfriend again, let alone get married.

If you read between the lines, this means that I am now accepting applications from married or otherwise attached men who want flings.

HAHAHAHAHA!


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