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ABBAKiss 04-15-2010 01:47 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 421504)
Never done it. My way of recovering from marathons usually consists of drinking beer all day.
I've never ice bathed either. I can tell you, though, that even though vodka looks like water, it does not hydrate like water, regardless of the quantities consumed post-marathon.

After my last marathon in 2007 I covered my thighs in IcyHot. Do not do this.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 04-15-2010 01:48 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 421514)
gwnc and I are the masses when it comes to running. advice from the Gods, like you, is like our asking Franco how to get a pizza delivered quickly- "just order one, have the first guy killed for being late, and see if they don't get there quicker from then on."

we don't have the same support system you have- like you were sponsored by speedo, nike and a bike compnay right? any of those would have bought you an ice soaker.

We're on our own.
DeSoto, Saucony and QuintanaRoo (before it got sold to Merlin), but otherwise, yes, point taken.

Oh, also, BionX and Stoker Bar (and powerbar, but who hasn't been sponsored by them...?)

PresentTense Pirate Penske 04-15-2010 01:50 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 421515)
Excellent. I have to say, I kind of liked it once I got past the initial shock. I just thought I was going to get hypothermic if I stayed in any longer. But I'll aim for 10 minutes at least next time.
Its an acquired taste, but, as noted, once you get used to it, it can feel good. I doubt if you will regret it.

I give it the Spartan! stamp of approval.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-15-2010 01:50 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 421513)
Anyone with experience with recovery from 180 plus bike rides over the course of two days can also chime in. 100 miles on Saturday, 80ish on Sunday. MS150 my (sore, sore) ass.
And I'm "training" for 25...

Did you just call me Coltrane? 04-15-2010 01:51 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by PresentTense Pirate Penske (Post 421508)
WTFIWWY!!! Do it after training. I recall an epic weekend once upon a time. August. It was in the high 80s and humid at 6 AM. Rode from the Chi up to Lake Zurich, around the lake and back and then bricked a 15 miler along the lake in 100 degree heat.

Took an ice bath for an hour and went to bed.

The next day, same heat and humidity, did the Chicago Tri in 2:05:and change.

Another ice bath and then Pennys noodles for lunch.
I just prefer drinking beer to sitting in ice water.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 04-15-2010 01:53 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 421516)
I've never ice bathed either. I can tell you, though, that even though vodka looks like water, it does not hydrate like water, regardless of the quantities consumed post-marathon.

After my last marathon in 2007 I covered my thighs in IcyHot. Do not do this.
Wow! that reminds me of the time as a kid I replaced my granddad's preparation H with ben gay, npi, nttawwt. I had never seen a 85 year old person move so fast.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 04-15-2010 01:54 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 421520)
I just prefer drinking beer to sitting in ice water.
Why not do both? Why limit yourself?

Fugee 04-15-2010 01:55 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 421520)
I just prefer drinking beer to sitting in ice water.
I don't even like the taste of beer and I think I'd prefer it to sitting in ice water!

Did you just call me Coltrane? 04-15-2010 01:58 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by ABBAKiss (Post 421516)
I've never ice bathed either. I can tell you, though, that even though vodka looks like water, it does not hydrate like water, regardless of the quantities consumed post-marathon.

After my last marathon in 2007 I covered my thighs in IcyHot. Do not do this.
Kind of like the don't let someone give you a handjob in the shower with soap lesson.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 04-15-2010 01:59 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 421513)
Anyone with experience with recovery from 180 plus bike rides over the course of two days can also chime in. 100 miles on Saturday, 80ish on Sunday. MS150 my (sore, sore) ass.
Damn. Nicely done.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 04-15-2010 02:01 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by did you just call me coltrane? (Post 421525)
damn. Nicely done.
2.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 04-15-2010 02:06 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 421510)
Max and Ruby. Ruby and Max. Max and Ruby. Ruby and her little brother Max.
This should be on another board, but I fell asleep this morning watching Sesame Street with the 2-yr old (she got up REALLY early). When Elmo's World came on, I woke up and started singing the song. My daughter looked at me and said, "no singing, daddy. Go to sleep."

Did you just call me Coltrane? 04-15-2010 02:28 PM
Sorry for the kid talk...
 
...here is more underboob:

http://coedmagazine.files.wordpress....derboob-13.jpg

LessinSF 04-15-2010 02:41 PM
Looks a lot like Welsh
 
I interrupt to note that Eyjafjallajokull is my new favorite word. Carry on.

ETA: I just learned it erupted for 2 years last time. Cancel those UK vacations.

greatwhitenorthchick 04-15-2010 03:32 PM
Re: Looks a lot like Welsh
 
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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 421529)
I interrupt to note that Eyjafjallajokull is my new favorite word. Carry on.

ETA: I just learned it erupted for 2 years last time. Cancel those UK vacations.
During my visit to Iceland, we hiked close to Eyjafjallajokull. I am glad it was not erupting at the time.

Iceland also had money then.

LessinSF 04-15-2010 03:50 PM
Re: Looks a lot like Welsh
 
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Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 421530)
During my visit to Iceland, we hiked close to Eyjafjallajokull. I am glad it was not erupting at the time.

Iceland also had money then.
No flights over the UK, mainland Spain, or most of France and Scandinavia:
http://www.nationalpost.com/2910706.bin

Pretty Little Flower 04-15-2010 03:51 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 421510)
Max and Ruby. Ruby and Max. Max and Ruby. Ruby and her little brother Max.
Nothing fills me with the unquenchable desire to kill more than those words.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 04-15-2010 03:53 PM
Re: The thread where Spring has sprung, and Penske has risen from the law. Word!
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 421532)
Nothing fills me with the unquenchable desire to kill more than those words.
They fight! And bite!
They fight and bite and fight!
Fight fight fight! Bite bite bite!
The Itchy and Scratchy Show!

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 04-15-2010 03:54 PM
Re: Looks a lot like Welsh
 
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Originally Posted by LessinSF (Post 421529)
ETA: I just learned it erupted for 2 years last time. Cancel those UK vacations.
They're supposed to call a doctor after 4 hours.

Hank Chinaski 04-15-2010 04:04 PM
Re: Looks a lot like Welsh
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 421534)
They're supposed to call a doctor after 4 hours.
if you've erupt for four hours you hopefully have called a film crew.

bold_n_brazen 04-15-2010 04:15 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by PresentTense Pirate Penske (Post 421509)
Dissent. Is this a coach like Bob Greene, Oprah's faux-triathlete coach, who, as best as anyone in the fucking sport could tell had done like one sprint race ever and then Oprah expertised him?? :eek::confused:
Perhaps you've seen me run then?

LessinSF 04-15-2010 04:23 PM
Look Out Below!
 
Animation of the ash plume - http://www.esa.int/esaEO/SEMKDU9MT7G_index_0.html

Did you just call me Coltrane? 04-15-2010 04:24 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 421537)
Perhaps you've seen me run then?
Is this you on the treadmill?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsIEtOckGzg

Spree: video of bouncing boobs.

ThurgreedMarshall 04-15-2010 04:36 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 421502)
Could any of the runners on the board talk to me about ice baths? I ran 13 miles on Sunday (I'm doing very little this week and next because my half-marathon is on the 25th), and it was my last long run before the race.
On my vacation, a marathoner preached to me about the benefits of ice baths so last Sunday I took one. I filled the bath with a big bag of cubes, put in some epsom salts and ran some cold water and got in* and managed to stay there for about five minutes. I think it helped my legs a bit, but I wanted to take a survey to see if any of you do ice baths, and how long you stay in, and if it helps, and if you take a hot shower after, etc.


*Motherfucking fucking hell, it was so fucking cold
I used to do these after practice in college because the trainers swore by them. They're supposed to keep swelling down, I think. And yes, I took hot showers after.

TM

Gattigap 04-15-2010 04:39 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 421542)
I used to do these after practice in college because the trainers swore by them. They're supposed to keep swelling down, I think. And yes, I took hot showers after.

TM
Runner's World agrees.

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Cryotherapy ("cold therapy") constricts blood vessels and decreases metabolic activity, which reduces swelling and tissue breakdown. Once the skin is no longer in contact with the cold source, the underlying tissues warm up, causing a return of faster blood flow, which helps return the byproducts of cellular breakdown to the lymph system for efficient recycling by the body. "Ice baths don't only suppress inflammation, but help to flush harmful metabolic debris out of your muscles," says David Terry, M.D., an ultrarunner who has finished both the Western States 100-Mile Endurance Run and the Wasatch Front 100-Mile Endurance Run 10 consecutive times.

Though you could use individual ice packs, cold-water immersion generally produces a greater and longer lasting change in deep tissues and is more a more efficient means of cooling large groups of muscles simultaneously. The discomfort associated with sitting in a tub full of ice water scares off some athletes.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 04-15-2010 04:42 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by Gattigap (Post 421543)
I just don't want to test the limits of shrinkage.

Hank Chinaski 04-15-2010 05:43 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 421545)
I just don't want to test the limits of shrinkage.
2, but more important, I distrust and go against EVERYTHING Runner's World says. I believe their shoe rankings single-handed ruined the best running shoe brands around.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 04-15-2010 05:43 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen (Post 421537)
Perhaps you've seen me run then?
Not yet. Send me some video. :D

Icky Thump 04-15-2010 06:28 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 421545)
I just don't want to test the limits of shrinkage.
If I took an ice bath I'd get in free on ladies night.

Badump bump.

PresentTense Pirate Penske 04-15-2010 08:33 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump (Post 421572)
If I took an ice bath I'd get in free on ladies night.

Badump bump.
I don't get it?????:confused::confused:

ltl/fb 04-15-2010 08:48 PM
Re: Penske's Thread to be named later
 
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Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 421476)
Wow, you really are a swirling black hole of narcissism. NTTAWWT.
That is my role 'round these parts, I thought.

dtb 04-15-2010 08:55 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick (Post 421515)
Excellent. I have to say, I kind of liked it once I got past the initial shock. I just thought I was going to get hypothermic if I stayed in any longer. But I'll aim for 10 minutes at least next time.
At the Equinox on 63rd St., they have a "cold pool" next to a jacuzzi thing. I tried to get in one time and lasted about 45 seconds. DAMN!! It was so painful -- though every running trainer I've ever had (in a platonic sense, of course) has extolled the virtues of ice baths for recovery. I could never really take it for long.

At the cold pool on 63rd St., I saw a guy in there reading the newspaper as if he were sipping a latte at Le Bilbouquet with his morning croissant. MOTHERFUCKER!! I don't know how he did it.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 04-15-2010 09:00 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by dtb (Post 421599)
I tried to get in one time and lasted about 45 seconds. DAMN!! It was so painful -- though every running trainer I've ever had (in a platonic sense, of course) has extolled the virtues of ice baths for recovery.
Wasn't submersion in ice baths something that the Nazis did to the Jews in concentration camps?

Just sayin'.

Icky Thump 04-15-2010 09:35 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by PresentTense Pirate Penske (Post 421594)
I don't get it?????:confused::confused:
My penis would shrink so small it would become a vagina. Ladies have vaginas.

Icky Thump 04-15-2010 09:35 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by dtb (Post 421599)
At the Equinox on 63rd St., they have a "cold pool" next to a jacuzzi thing. I tried to get in one time and lasted about 45 seconds. DAMN!! It was so painful -- though every running trainer I've ever had (in a platonic sense, of course) has extolled the virtues of ice baths for recovery. I could never really take it for long.

At the cold pool on 63rd St., I saw a guy in there reading the newspaper as if he were sipping a latte at Le Bilbouquet with his morning croissant. MOTHERFUCKER!! I don't know how he did it.
No dick.

ME, I'd rather just pop 2 advil.

Hank Chinaski 04-15-2010 09:41 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 421601)
Wasn't submersion in ice baths something that the Nazis did to the Jews in concentration camps?

Just sayin'.
they also made them lift stuff 20 hours a day until they dropped. that doesn't mean dtb can't lift weights for a half hour every so often.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 04-15-2010 09:43 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 421625)
they also made them lift stuff 20 hours a day until they dropped. that doesn't mean dtb can't lift weights for a half hour every so often.
You're saying the Holocaust was just a matter of degree?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-15-2010 09:55 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by dtb (Post 421599)
At the Equinox on 63rd St., they have a "cold pool" next to a jacuzzi thing. I tried to get in one time and lasted about 45 seconds. DAMN!! It was so painful -- though every running trainer I've ever had (in a platonic sense, of course) has extolled the virtues of ice baths for recovery. I could never really take it for long.

At the cold pool on 63rd St., I saw a guy in there reading the newspaper as if he were sipping a latte at Le Bilbouquet with his morning croissant. MOTHERFUCKER!! I don't know how he did it.
We had a problem last winter when we replaced a water heater with a new supersized one so we could get oodles of hot water and have long luxurious jacuzzis going simultaneously in every bathroom. But it turned out the combination of the boiler and new superheater drew more air than there was in the utility room, especially on cold days, and we could only keep the heater going if we left the utility room door open and a fan blowing in. Net result: every time the cleaning woman came early in the morning, she shut the door and I got a cold shower. After a while, they really weren't so bad. I even started staying in a little extra just to wake up.

Still, I'm glad we're replacing the boiler to fix the problem.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 04-15-2010 10:05 PM
Re: Ice Baths
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 421631)
We had a problem last winter when we replaced a water heater with a new supersized one so we could get oodles of hot water and have long luxurious jacuzzis going simultaneously in every bathroom. But it turned out the combination of the boiler and new superheater drew more air than there was in the utility room, especially on cold days, and we could only keep the heater going if we left the utility room door open and a fan blowing in. Net result: every time the cleaning woman came early in the morning, she shut the door and I got a cold shower. After a while, they really weren't so bad. I even started staying in a little extra just to wake up.

Still, I'm glad we're replacing the boiler to fix the problem.
Good think it didn't just cause a lot of sleepiness. Wouldn't adding an outdoor air intake be better than replacing the system?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 04-15-2010 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) (Post 421639)
Good think it didn't just cause a lot of sleepiness. Wouldn't adding an outdoor air intake be better than replacing the system?
System needed replacing anyways. And there was a government program to subsidize the replacement with a more energy efficient one.


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