Paigow Knows Her Tennis -
 

Not. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...nm/atp_open_dc (Agassi loses).

Shock the monkey, or I'm shocked to find gambling going on at this casino.
 

People are constantly shocked to learn I am hetero.

Misc. fashion stuff
 

Weird Swazi king: "The Bible says curse be unto a woman who wears pants, and those who wear their husband's clothes. That is why the world is in such a state today."

Yes, we need to crack down on those women wearing their husband's clothes. For the love of God, leave the skirts to the menfolk! Leave them their sarongs, and their kilts, and their fustanellas, their caftans. The Marshall Islands must keep their in off their women! The bubu, dashiki, djellabah, Galabiyah, Gho, kikoy, Lungi, the Männerrock - all their masculinity ridiculed by women wearing skirts! Not to mention the holy cassock, which should prove that the Lord intends women to decently abandon skirts inthe name of God with certainty!

(Actual quote at issue: "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God." Deuteronomy 22:5. Hebrew men wore skirts: "a man shall not take his father’s wife, nor discover his father’s skirt" Deuteronomy 22:30; "David arose, and cut off the skirt of Saul’s robe privily" 1 Sam 24:4. God himself wears skirts: "I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine" Ezekiel 16:8. I just had time on my hands and wanted to look it up.)

Also, on the whole dressing down for summer thing, an article by Judith Martin: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003May31.html

"By Judith Martin
Sunday, June 1, 2003; Page D02

Respectable people did not used to appear any the less respectable as a concession to summer heat. They had summer wardrobes made of lighter materials, but these featured the same items as their winter counterparts, including ties and jackets, long skirts and stockings.

Of course, that was back before air conditioning. Now we have desperate and indignant pleas that human survival would be at stake if anyone had to stagger from air-conditioned transportation to air-conditioned buildings wearing more than tank tops, shorts and sandals.

Miss Manners does not mention this out of any yearning for the fortitude of yore. Those people must have been nuts.

But she finds the relationship between the progression of technology and the progression of style to be curious. As the methods of producing clothing went from tedious handwork to mechanized mass-production, tailcoats and embroidered, elaborately draped dresses were abandoned for jeans and basic-black shifts. In architecture, for that matter, increasingly powerful equipment and more flexible materials marked the change from an immense variety of fanciful buildings to the ubiquitous unadorned box.

Ah, well. Miss Manners doesn't pretend that hers is the prevailing taste. If it were, the bustle would be back, and ladies could use their stair machines to practice walking with a train.

All she asks is that some effort be made to conform to the standards of our own times, which still distinguish between dressed and undressed. There must be a summer compromise between running around in practically nothing in order to stay cool and looking dignified while passing out.

But attempts to loosen easily definable dress codes always bring more problems than they solve. No sooner are concessions made than they are abused. When word goes out that ties and jackets are no longer required, out come the T-shirts and jeans. If those are permitted, out come the tank tops and shorts.

Part of this stems from confusion. Most people have a pretty good idea what business dress is, but -- as is obvious at any informal social event -- everyone has a different definition of genuine casual, and, even after all these years, no one has ever found out what "business casual" means.

The rest is bolstered by argument, mostly about creativity and comfort. Miss Manners doesn't mind the visual part of the summer slops nearly as much as having to listen to versions of "Nobody can tell me what to wear because I'm grown up now and I won't wear any of those grown-up clothes that would make me look old."

She would have thought that at least she would be spared the summer buzz of complaints about how tourists and co-workers dress, but strangely, even the self-proclaimed rebels care about such things. As it is difficult to proclaim independence for oneself but not others, they put it in different terms: Those half-dressed people are fat, sweaty, provocative, showing off, smelly, hairy, threatening-looking and so on.

Yes, those are some of the things that benefit from a few bits of light cloth. Unless these people are on the beach, where it is inoffensive because that is the dress code."

Shock the monkey, or I'm shocked to find gambling going on at this casino.
 

Do you tell the women before or after you get them into bed?

Paigow Knows Her Tennis -
 

SONOFABITCH. Where was the spoiler space? I have spent the whole day avoidig the news. You may despise me but out of respect for the board rules, do not give out results for sports played in wacked out time zones. I was planning on watching that match tonight.

I probably just made your day. Gonna go out to a bar by yourself again to get loaded in the futile attempt to get laid, again? At least if you believed in marriage you imight have a decent shot at regular sex.

Booze
 

What's the source of your obsession with Worcester? I'm curious, particularly since there are plenty of small cities in CT that also have blue collar populations that you could be ridiculing. Your jokes need some diversity.

Misc. fashion stuff
 

This whole problem can be avoided by spending the summer in San Francisco. (Cue the Mark Twain quote.) Sometimes when the fog burns off, we find tourists in shorts with chattering teeth, warming their hands over burning Fodor's guides.

Booze
 

It aint about blue collardom. Its just that Woostah is the mother of all Massholes, a very unique breed of americana.

Shock the monkey, or I'm shocked to find gambling going on at this casino.
 

I get that all the time too, NTTAWWT. Apparently because I'm annoyed by sexism and only get around to wearing makeup other than lipstick on weekends, if then.

Paigow Knows Her Tennis -
 

1. You were the one who was making predictions on here about the match.

2. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't recall us ever using spoilers space for sporting events, even those held elsewhere in the world, and I specifically recall no such spoiler space being used during last year's Tour De France, last year's World Cup, or last year's British Open.

Edited to add that I am not opposed to it (as it detracted from my enjoyment of last year's Tour), but it didn't occurred to me to do so and it wasn't done maliciously (sorry to disappoint).

Shock the monkey, or I'm shocked to find gambling going on at this casino.
 

Maybe somtimes you are unintentionally sending out something that they sometimes pick up on some of their gaydars. When someone is a gay, that someone is sometimes the last to know--unless they make gay urine-drinking movies in law school for $2500, those people usually know pretty early on.

Shock the monkey, or I'm shocked to find gambling going on at this casino.
 

For me it is my recently shorn hair (very short), and my rather muscular physique. NTTAWWT. I wish I was gay. But vaginas are just too weird for me to go there.

Misc. fashion stuff
 

Why any woman would advocate bringing back the bustle is beyond me. Anything that makes my ass bigger is not going to be enthusiastically received in these (hind)quarters.

Shock the monkey, or I'm shocked to find gambling going on at this casino.
 

Could there a sub-concious reason that you picked an avatar that is based on someone who is, arguably, the first gay cartoon character on television? I say "arguably" because there are those that would say--incorrectly--that Batman and Robin were the first cartoon gay couple. You know, Bruce is the rich bachelor and "Dick" Ward is his live-in boy toy and they play around in masks and belts and tools in a cave that looks suspiciously like an S&M dungeon. Clearly this is the result of an overactive imagination. THere are a million reasons that a single millionaire would take in a teen boy and make him wear a mask and run around a dark cave in spandex. I can't think of any off the top of my head but there must be a lot of them.

Shock the monkey, or I'm shocked to find gambling going on at this casino.
 

Lisa Marie Presley recently said something similar in an interview. Of course, having previously been married to MJ, going out with an actual woman wouldn't be much of a stretch. ;)

Shock the monkey, or I'm shocked to find gambling going on at this casino.
 

It's funny when people are shocked that I'm an attorney and when I ask why, they don't know what to say. One person said that I don't seem bitchy enough. Another person (this dentist - not my regular dentist - a specialist) looked flustered and said I was too pretty to be a lawyer. I suppose there was a compliment in there somewhere. Another person said I was too young (not knowing my age). Mostly people just say some variation of "you just don't seem the type to be a lawyer" - I suppose because they think lawyers are all very aggressive and I'm not really. I guess I just do a good job of hiding the fact that I'm an uberbitch.

Shock the monkey, or I'm shocked to find gambling going on at this casino.
 

You sure it isn't because you look like Velma?

I think that people are often surprised that I am an attorney, but when they hear that I am transactional, it usually appeases them. Single men assume that I am a lot younger than I actually am, and are surprised when I tell them my age (even after they know that I am a lawyer who has been doing it for a few years). Of course I take that as a complement.

Paigow Knows Her Tennis -
 

We should certainly enforce spoiler space for any European sporting event people watch on tape.

Speaking of the Tour, it's official that Cipo will not be invited.

E/O

American Movie
 

Is funnier than shit. (Can I say that here?) My nephew is now real buddy buddy with all those guys. IF I had money I would back that director in a movie.

Shock the monkey, or I'm shocked to find gambling going on at this casino.
 

People are shocked at my age (assume that I am 10-15 years younger), and at the fact that Mr. Elk and I are of different races.

Paigow Knows Her Tennis -
 

Or any sport that is run during the day when those of us chained to our desks cannot watch it. And as always with spoiler space, be careful not to requote it in the event an admin is able to delete it in time.

The good news is that unless Moya is still around (and I suspect he might have been knocked out but dont actually know), my Sunday is now freed up. Wonder what happened with Andre? Guess when you get older you are subject to more off days? Or maybe Senor Ridiculous Bowl Haircut was feeling superinspried evn on his third straight day of playing. I believe Senor Bowl went pro in 2000 and is already top ten, so he doesnt suck. I will find out tonight hwen I watch the fucking match anyway. Bastard.

Shock the monkey, or I'm shocked to find gambling going on at this casino.
 

I don't look like Velma dammit, I swear! I picked her because she's smart and the pretty girl on Scooby Doo was a bimbo!

P(longer hair and hourglassy, not bob-haired and squat; also would never pair orange sweater with green skirt)J

Booze
 

Not according to this website or my understanding of the term. It's much more about towns directly around Boston. Worcester is the outer limits at best.

Misc. fashion stuff
 

I've seen tourists tea-bagging sourdough bowls of clam chowder for warmth.

http://www.infirmation.com/file-stor...ersion_id=9282

This image was brought to you by West's "Greedy Associates (tm)". All rights reserved.

Booze
 

I believe you asked about MY "obsession" with Woostah. SO, like, that website aint relevant to your inquiry. Fuckin Massholes.

Booze
 

Haven't checked out the site yet, but Masshole is a term used to describe a person, not a place. Massholes are those crazy people you see driving on the rotaries.

Shock the monkey, or I'm shocked to find gambling going on at this casino.
 

I used to say the same thing about Reston. But then I went, and I was like, "Hey, it's not much to look at, but at least there's a Gap here." So it's really not that bad after all, I assure you.

American Movie
 

Very funny. That was a stocking stuffer gift for my SO (a nice midwestern boy), and we enjoyed watching him force his mom out in the snow to be an extra in his filck. And the stuff with the uncle was also priceless.

Misc. fashion stuff
 

You miss the point. If bustles are the fashion, no one can tell what size your (or anyone else's) ass is. And, people's tastes being shaped by what they see, big butts may become a more mainstream taste.

BR(when little bitty waists with wide hips and a bum you can sink your grip into come back in, I might be able to buy clothes without needing massive alterations)C

Actually, on this note, I've been haunting vintage shops for a few months now. I seem to have a '40s figure: lots of skirts with 27 inch waists and 40+ inch hips, and not just the A-lines.

Booze
 

I thought those were the tourists who just don't know how to drive.:poke:

Booze
 

Let's not leave Woostah residents out of the loop please though--I believe it was a Woostah Masshole who stole my piece-of-crap car from Western Mass. in college for a joyride and dumped it in a skanky neighborhood there.

Shock the monkey, or I'm shocked to find gambling going on at this casino.
 

I think that people thought I was gay when I was in law school. My brother had just come out around that time, and I was going to pride events and being all supportive about gay rights. I think that my playing rugby at the time probably also put me in the dyke category for some people. Lord knows I was one of two straight people on that team.

These days I never assume anything about sexual orientation, and generally it doesn't really have an impact on me one way or another unless the other person wants to sleep with me or I want to sleep with the other person.

Misc. fashion stuff
 

The old "When in Rome" theory, huh?

I knew that by referring to the Mark Twain thing, I was setting the bar just a little bit higher for you, you sick fuck.*



* Meant in the most appreciative, loving way possible.

Booze
 

That happened to me once, but it was Reveah.

Booze
 

Exactly. I remember when a Woostah Masshole drove their gigantic brown barge into my Volkswagen GTI when I was in Kenmore Square and then did not have any insurance to cover it.

OK, maybe this person wasnt from Woostah, but she was definitely a Masshole and I LOLed at your story bc what is it with Massholes and cars and driving?

And yes, a Masshole is a person, and not all Massholes are from Woostah, but it is probably safe to say that all peole from Woostah are massholes. And as I recall, black reeboks and acid washed jeans were spendy items in the late eighties, so it aint a class thing. Its a Mass thing.

Massholes
 

Well, at least the driving rules are spot on:

Excerpts:

-- Never get in the way of a car that needs extensive bodywork.

-- Double-park in the North End of Boston and South Boston, unless triple-parking is available.

-- Making eye contact revokes your right of way.

-- Whenever possible, stop in the middle of a crosswalk to ensure inconveniencing as many pedestrians as possible. And if a pedestrian ahead of you steps into the road, speed up loudly and chase them up on the curb. Pedestrians have no rights.

-- When making a left turn at an intersection with a red light, glare at the oncoming drivers, inch your way into the intersection, and floor it when the green light from the other direction turns yellow.

Booze
 

Which has a beach with an astonishingly high number of thong-wearers, on bodies where thongs should never, ever be.

P(which totally changed my Lilly Pulitzer experience of New England)J

Booze
 

Eh, I grew up in CT and you can still see those fashions on display in my home town.

Booze
 

Definition of Masshole (from a tripod site):

Find the site here

yesterday's article
 

To be fair, that was the original response. The original response was perfectly appropriate, and said they were sorry I was unhappy, etc etc. I responded to that that I appreciated it and hoped they wouldn't just see it as someone who was bitter about an article, but rather, from someone who was concerned about the process.

All of this was cc:d to someone else. I don't know who is whom so I don't want to name names. Anyway, it was that person to whom it was cc:d who came back and said something about cautioning me from attacking the integrity of one of their reporters in a public forum. He's also the one who said the petty and childish stuff.

I prefer to address reasonable concerns, so I figured no big deal to make sure y'all got it was an opinion. Besides, I also knew what your reaction would be to understanding he actually had the nerve to ask me to do that...so win win yes?

Someone asked if he said it was an opinion piece. No, I don't think so. He (the second guy) basically said they felt the article was fair and that it was a fair summary of the reasons, apparently those reasons were childish and petty for the most part. I'm honestly not sure what he thinks our reasons were. I have to wonder though who would actually go to the trouble I and everyone else involved went through to create this place, never mind the trouble you folks went through to follow us around to four different locations, just so we could curse. That's moronic.

Anyway, the first guy was always polite, he just said he thought I hadn't separated opinion and fact well enough. I disagree with him, obviously. Actually though since I said I would say something I'm not sure why he bothered to respond. Maybe a last word kind of thing? I don't know.