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Aloha Mr. Learned Hand 06-04-2003 11:07 AM

Spike Lee TV
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
And, apparently, his brilliance gives him a trademark over all uses of the word Spike:

Spike Lee sues to halt Spike TV

Don't think he has much of a case, considering he hasn't previously opposed the use of "Spike" by Spike Jonze (as a Movie Director, I might add), Elvis Costello (album title), Joan Rivers' little yippy annoying dog or with the aforementioned cat penises (or is it peni?)...

Penske_Account 06-04-2003 11:08 AM

Its All About the Penske! (sorry multo)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
it's been a long time since Penske's been around, eh?
I think I have lost my sock mojo. It may well be the end of an era. Even more tragic is that there really does not appear to be anyone with the sockabilities to pick up the torch.

Oh the humanity!

Apropos of all of that, in nod to my the esteemed Count d'Money, my POLL FOR THE DAY is:

What was your all-tyme favorite Penske Sock? (bonus points will be awarded for choosing socks that were actually mine).

The most creative response will be awarded one of my old Infirm sock log-ins and the TM registration related to the same.

Penske (sock-free) Account

Replaced_Texan 06-04-2003 11:14 AM

You will say then, without forgetting the language of gratitude to a cat.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I found the place where PLF's avatar will go to die.

"We want you to enjoy the clothes of the cat of CAT PRIN as follows by the reason for calling it ... " I speak for us all when I say, WTF?

http://www.petoffice.co.jp/catprin/images/pop_akage.jpg
I clicked the link and I found the Stepford Cats. These felines look about as dazed as those child models from last week. It's disturbing.

dtb 06-04-2003 11:18 AM

Booze
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
It aint about blue collardom. Its just that Woostah is the mother of all Massholes, a very unique breed of americana.
I think also that the name lends itself nicely to the encapsulation of a certain "type" (satirized on SNL -- see below) with that [to my ears, anyway, unbelievably grating] townie accent.

Two other amusing illustrations:

1. Overheard at college bar: "Oh?! Ya go ta Hahvad? Ya must be wicked smaaaat."

2. On SNL, the Jimmy Fallon/[Rachel?] Dratch characters who play Boston townies. They're on a trip to some colonial town where they have "actors" depicting life in the 18th century (you know, like Williamsburg). One of these "actors" in colonial Plymouth (or wherever) is Britney Spears -- with a heavy southern accent. The Rachel Dratch character says to her, ''What's up with that accent? Ya sound retaaaaded!"

But see, each of these stories takes too long to tell -- it is all quickly encapsulated with the trope (please, no one correct what is likely my misuse of that word) "Wooostah" (or for those of you who went to college in Boston or its environs -- "left on Spitbrook, right on Daniel Webstah" is another.)

Seven of Nine 06-04-2003 11:19 AM

You will say then, without forgetting the language of gratitude to a cat.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I clicked the link and I found the Stepford Cats. These felines look about as dazed as those child models from last week. It's disturbing.

Nevertheless, the site was full of good advice for all you guys looking for ways to fool women into believeing you are half as sensitive as you claim to be:

1. Dress her up. Cheer or yell, do whatever you like to enjoy the moment with your family.

2. After you are enough with your joy, take a photo! Take some poses and leave her some cute photos!

3. Remove her clothes and give her a hub, say "Thank you!"


Seven (no hubs, please) of Nine

greatwhitenorthchick 06-04-2003 11:27 AM

Spike Lee TV
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aloha Mr. Learned Hand
Don't think he has much of a case, considering he hasn't previously opposed the use of "Spike" by Spike Jonze (as a Movie Director, I might add), Elvis Costello (album title), Joan Rivers' little yippy annoying dog or with the aforementioned cat penises (or is it peni?)...
I never knew cats had spikes on their penises. I named my cat Spike because of his ability when he was a little kitten to spike a little ball like a volleyball. (of course he hasn't done that for about ten years or so) - so now his name has a whole new meaning.

dtb 06-04-2003 11:28 AM

Booze
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sparklehorse
Not according to this website or my understanding of the term. It's much more about towns directly around Boston. Worcester is the outer limits at best.
Uh, sorry, I didn't realize that "Massholes" was an accepted term of art. I thought that paigow had just cleverly made it up. That post back there is moot (or as Joey from Friends would say, it's moo.) :blush:

(To be fair, the website you cite includes Wooostah in its heading as one of the meccas of Massholery.)

Ritz 06-04-2003 11:35 AM

Parking
 
Quote:

On another note, someone parked in my space. Who parks in someone's space on a rainy day?

Someone once did this to me - I parked sideways behind them and my neighbor-friend (with consent). Eventually, when the illegal-parker wanted to leave, they had to knock on my door and ask me to move, which took a while because I was on the phone and had to look for my car keys while they waited on the doorstep. This person, a frequent visitor to my complex, never parked in my space again. Note: this only works if you have limited concern for your car.

SlaveNoMore 06-04-2003 11:36 AM

Its All About the Penske! (sorry multo)
 
Quote:

Penske_Account
What was your all-tyme favorite Penske Sock? (bonus points will be awarded for choosing socks that were actually mine).
the answer is obvious:

VESTED SOCK OPTION (VSO)

not7yS

paigowprincess 06-04-2003 11:39 AM

Booze
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
Uh, sorry, I didn't realize that "Massholes" was an accepted term of art. I thought that paigow had just cleverly made it up. That post back there is moot (or as Joey from Friends would say, it's moo.) :blush:

(To be fair, the website you cite includes Wooostah in it's heading as one of the meccas of Massholery.)
No dtb, your post was right on. I didn't read this website but I know what a masshole is when I hear and see one, and you described them well. Northeastern university is full of them and I visualize Jimmy Fallon's Sully as someone who woud go there.

For some reasno my best friend from hs went to Northeastern (reason being he was too lazy to study in high school and probably could not have gotten into any oterfour year school). So I got to spend lots of time smoking dope with massholes in my friend's dorm. they would kind of freak me out. they are definitely their own strain of human. I can remember there was a fire drill once and ths masshole went berserk. He started pounding on the dohm doah to be let in the building saying "I spend three thousand a yeah (or whatever it was) to live heah, so you bettah let me back in. its wicked cold out heah" My friend and I were so flipped by this bizarre display we had to go to Stoah Twenty Foah to get away from him.

evenodds 06-04-2003 11:40 AM

Its All About the Penske! (sorry multo)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
the answer is obvious:

VESTED SOCK OPTION (VSO)

not7yS
Hmmm . . . it's a tie:

Ghost Faced Sock Killah

PatentParaNYC

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-04-2003 11:41 AM

Grating accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
I think also that the name lends itself nicely to the encapsulation of a certain "type" (satirized on SNL -- see below) with that [to my ears, anyway, unbelievably grating] townie accent.
Poll:

What is the most grating American accent?

Boston?
Brooklyn?
Joisey?
Texas?
Other nominees?

ThurgreedMarshall 06-04-2003 11:42 AM

Misc. fashion stuff
 
Quote:

Originally posted by c2ed
[Substance of post unimportant]
Just for the record, C2ed, your avatar makes me want to TUAOM.

Thurgreed(couldn't find Mrs. Beaver doing housework in the nude?)Marshall

paigowprincess 06-04-2003 11:44 AM

Grating accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Poll:

What is the most grating American accent?

Boston?
Brooklyn?
Joisey?
Texas?
Other nominees?
Easy. The Valley girl accent taken to absurd extremes by the first generation asian immigrant daguther who is trying to fit in. Like, ohMyGawd!
This of course is not a dehumanzing comment.

The Boston accent and the deep south accent where you want to hit the fast forward button on the drawler are pretty irritating.

paigowprincess 06-04-2003 11:46 AM

Misc. fashion stuff
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Just for the record, C2ed, your avatar makes me want to TUAOM.

Thurgreed(couldn't find Mrs. Beaver doing housework in the nude?)Marshall
What is TUAOM? Take Umbrage At the Odd Man?

ABBAKiss 06-04-2003 11:56 AM

Grating accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Poll:

What is the most grating American accent?

Boston?
Brooklyn?
Joisey?
Texas?
Other nominees?
I strongly dislike southern accents of any kind.

I also hate the yelling and screaming and purposefully mispronounced speech often associated with ebonics.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-04-2003 11:56 AM

You will say then, without forgetting the language of gratitude to a cat.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I found the place where PLF's avatar will go to die.
So, PLF's avatar is him at home, but in the office it's strictly:http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/21103...op_nekutai.jpg?

Thurgreed(I feel sorry for leagle's cats once she finds this site)Marshall

Sparklehorse 06-04-2003 11:58 AM

Booze
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
[More enlightened commentary about Massholes]... they are definitely their own strain of human.
The same, arguably, could be said of you. And there's nothing wrong with a little diversity in the world.:rolleyes:

evenodds 06-04-2003 11:58 AM

Grating accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I also hate the yelling and screaming and purposefully mispronounced speech often associated with ebonics.
Yelling and screaming . . . often associated with ebonics?

Exactly what is that supposed to mean?

Anne Elk 06-04-2003 11:59 AM

Grating accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Poll:

What is the most grating American accent?

Boston?
Brooklyn?
Joisey?
Texas?
Other nominees?
Boston. They manage to sound pretentious and retahded at the same time.

ltl/fb 06-04-2003 12:02 PM

Spike Lee TV
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I never knew cats had spikes on their penises. I named my cat Spike because of his ability when he was a little kitten to spike a little ball like a volleyball. (of course he hasn't done that for about ten years or so) - so now his name has a whole new meaning.
It's more like little spines, I guess -- and if the cat is neutered, they go away.

http://www.cfainc.org/health/reproduction8.html

has pictures! May be inappropriate for work, I guess, because it shows animal genitalia.

leagleaze 06-04-2003 12:05 PM

You will say then, without forgetting the language of gratitude to a cat.
 
Quote:

Thurgreed(I feel sorry for leagle's cats once she finds this site)Marshall

I would never dress my cats up in such a costume. I respect my cats' right to be as they are. As I respect your right to be as you are, you know, mean and scrooge like. Ya fuddy duddy.

ABBAKiss 06-04-2003 12:06 PM

Grating accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Yelling and screaming . . . often associated with ebonics?

Exactly what is that supposed to mean?
I mean the speech where people talk over each other and say the same thing over and over again without proper diction. Like on a Ricki Lake show (although I hear this in public also, but just by way of example) when one woman screams, "And what? And what? And what? I din' axe you..." while the other is screaming at the same time "Step off, bitch, Step off, step off, step off, you don' know me." I associate that with ebonics (not black people, but the style of speech). You don't often hear people with proper British accents, for example, talking over each other like that.

spookyfish 06-04-2003 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
Now that would have been an idea. But no, I was financially and environmentally sound, and used the back of an envelope.
If you used a key to write it on their hood, you could have avoided wasting paper entirely.

s(just doing my part to save the trees)f

http://www.newdream.org/monthly/lorax.jpg

Bad_Rich_Chic 06-04-2003 12:12 PM

Grating accents
 
W. Virginia sounds like your talking through sludge, but I rather like it for some reason, like I enjoy the smell of gasoline.

Maine is right up there. Frankly, so is native New York - most of the accents of the NY area grate on me, and it kills me when I hear myself picking it up.

DC accents bug the hell out of me - flat, blatting, nasal. Ottawa is the same way - maybe it has something to do with capital cities.

I can often pick out native Seattlites, but that doesn't mean I like it.

The southwestern-hispanic accent can get on your nerves - sometimes it's nice, and sometimes you want to yell "stop that sing-songy shit!" (This is probably the reason people dislike S.CA accents, too.)

I like most Texas accents (though some are outrageous, usually eastern rural ones). Accents from the inland areas of VA and the Carolinas can annoy me (particularly when they pick up strong hints of the population's origin, be it irish, scotish, Liverpool, german, whatever - but see WVA above), but generally I like slower southern speech far more than most N.E. accents. Too much talking too fast, and precious little to say (another bad habit it kills me to hear myself picking up). And southern vowels tend to be rounder and more modulated, less nasal and constricted. A much more pleasant sound overall.

There is a New Orleans accent that sounds just like Brooklyn. For some reason, the New Orleans version bugs me more than the Brooklyn version. (Brooklyn-ease has vowels pulled back in the throat, which is better than the nasal-frontal sounds of most North Easterners, even if brooklynites torture them into odd dipthongs.)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Poll:

What is the most grating American accent?

Boston?
Brooklyn?
Joisey?
Texas?
Other nominees?

evenodds 06-04-2003 12:17 PM

Grating accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I mean the speech where people talk over each other and say the same thing over and over again without proper diction. Like on a Ricki Lake show (although I hear this in public also, but just by way of example) when one woman screams, "And what? And what? And what? I din' axe you..." while the other is screaming at the same time "Step off, bitch, Step off, step off, step off, you don' know me." I associate that with ebonics (not black people, but the style of speech). You don't often hear people with proper British accents, for example, talking over each other like that.
Ebonics was the Oakland, CA school district's name for what was called black english vernacular when I studied linguistics, and african-american english vernacular now.

The ignorant behavior you describe is not representative of bev/aaev. It is representative of that distinct subculture of people of any race who would appear on the Ricki Lake show.

Edited to mention the correct trash show.

Bad_Rich_Chic 06-04-2003 12:18 PM

Grating accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I mean the speech where people talk over each other and say the same thing over and over again without proper diction. Like on a Ricki Lake show (although I hear this in public also, but just by way of example) when one woman screams, "And what? And what? And what? I din' axe you..." while the other is screaming at the same time "Step off, bitch, Step off, step off, step off, you don' know me." I associate that with ebonics (not black people, but the style of speech). You don't often hear people with proper British accents, for example, talking over each other like that.
Proper, meaning received BBC English accents ... no. But you frequently hear similar badly-pronounced, repeated, nonsensical aggressive filler-type stuff yelled by british people with grating accents around closing time ....

robustpuppy 06-04-2003 12:20 PM

Grating accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Most of the accents of the NY area grate on me, and it kills me when I hear myself picking it up.

DC accents bug the hell out of me - flat, blatting, nasal. Ottawa is the same way - maybe it has something to do with capital cities.

This confuses me. What is a DC accent? Most people here are transplants. When you say flat, blatting, and nasal, it does make me think of Sandra Bullock, who grew up in Arlington, Va, but I have never thought of that as a DC accent.

As a Long Islander, I have always found upstate NY accents to be extremely grating. Talk about flat and nasal.

And to return to a previous topic, people are usually surprised (shock is too strong) to learn I'm from LI. Must be the NPR clip.

Connect_the_Dots 06-04-2003 12:23 PM

Grating accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
Iwhen one woman screams, "And what? And what? And what? I din' axe you..." while the other is screaming at the same time "Step off, bitch, Step off, step off, step off, you don' know me." I associate that with ebonics (not black people, but the style of speech). You don't often hear people with proper British accents, for example, talking over each other like that.
It reminds of Chris Rock's take on Ebonics:

There are two kinds of ways of talking. There's the way you talk if you ever want to have a job....then there's the other way.

ABBAKiss 06-04-2003 12:23 PM

Grating accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Ebonics was the Oakland, CA school district's name for what was called black english vernacular when I studied linguistics, and african-american english vernacular now.

The ignorant behavior you describe is not representative of bev/aaev. It is representative of that distinct subculture of people of any race who would appear on the Ricki Lake show.

Edited to mention the correct trash show.
I never studied linguistics. Maybe I used the term too loosely. At any rate, I associate it with people who do not use proper pronunciation on purpose for effect. And again, I was not associating it with any race or ethnicity but rather with a style of speech.

leagleaze 06-04-2003 12:23 PM

accents
 
My accent annoys me sometimes. Normally I don't have a heavy accent but every now and again I'll say watah. I actually responded to someone a while back when he said hi with, Yo, how you doin, in a really heavy accent. He just broke up laughing as did I. I have to wonder where the hell this comes from since we moved when I was 4.

So I'll have to go with the Long Island accent.

I don't know if this is an accent, but people end sentences with at drive me crazy. I.e. Where you taking your vacation at? Where's he at? Where's that at. First why are you ending a sentence with at? Second, the at is redundant, you already said where.

As an aside, I don't think you mean ebonics ABBA, isn't ebonics a form of language? Someone who knows more on that can perhaps speak to it.

SlaveNoMore 06-04-2003 12:30 PM

Grating accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Ebonics was the Oakland, CA school district's name for what was called black english vernacular when I studied linguistics, and african-american english vernacular now.

The ignorant behavior you describe is not representative of bev/aaev. It is representative of that distinct subculture of people of any race who would appear on the Ricki Lake show.
Which group includes those that add "You know what I'm saying?" into every damn sentence.

not7yS

ThurgreedMarshall 06-04-2003 12:30 PM

25th Hour
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Bob
[25th Hour's Fuck You rant]
Is it stealing if he took it from one of his own movies? This is taken almost directly out of Do the Right Thing, it's just more inclusive and instead of having different people rant on a specific race, he has Norton do it for everyone. It worked, but I liked it better the first time I saw it.

Other favorite quote:

Radio Raheem: Give me twenty D Energizers.
Sonny: Twenty C Energizers?
Radio Raheem: Not C, D.
Sonny: C Energizers?
Radio Raheem: D motherfucker, D. Learn to speak English first, alright?
Kim: How many you say?
Radio Raheem: Twenty, motherfucker, twenty.
Sonny: Motherfuck you!

TM

Edited to add: Isn't it funny that this post landed where it did? I must have ESP(N) or something.

spookyfish 06-04-2003 12:31 PM

Where it's at.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze

I don't know if this is an accent, but people end sentences with at drive me crazy. I.e. Where you taking your vacation at? Where's he at? Where's that at. First why are you ending a sentence with at? Second, the at is redundant, you already said where.
Apropos of something, perhaps tying threads, this reminds me of the joke about the West Virginia boy who went to Harvard.

Country boy to Harvard Man:
"Excuse me, sir. Can you tell me where the library is at?"

Harvard Man:
"We at Hahvahd don't end our sentences in prepositions."

Country boy:
"Okay, then. Can you tell me where the library is at, asshole?"

Connect_the_Dots 06-04-2003 12:33 PM

accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
So I'll have to go with the Long Island accent.

I don't know if this is an accent, but people end sentences with at drive me crazy. I.e. Where you taking your vacation at? Where's he at? Where's that at. First why are you ending a sentence with at? Second, the at is redundant, you already said where.
If mentioned to a a real long islander, or person within 100 miles of NYC, the convo would go like this:

LI: Where you taking your vacation at?

Timmy: Don't end a sentence with a preposition, end it with a noun.

LI: OK. Where you taking your vacation at, asshole?

greatwhitenorthchick 06-04-2003 12:33 PM

accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze

I don't know if this is an accent, but people end sentences with at drive me crazy. I.e. Where you taking your vacation at? Where's he at? Where's that at. First why are you ending a sentence with at? Second, the at is redundant, you already said where.
Not the same thing but I can't stand it when someone tells you that so-and-so is "out to lunch". "Out to lunch" means they're crazy, doesn't it? It does where I come from. I have asked my secretary to tell people I am "at lunch" not "out to lunch".

Also, "out of pocket" means out of money/broke, not unavailable. At least it does in my world.

It makes my ears hurt when someone says "route" as "rowt" not "root". And "roof" pronounced "ruff".

paigowprincess 06-04-2003 12:33 PM

Grating accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic



DC accents bug the hell out of me - flat, blatting, nasal.
Is "DC accent" a euphemism for ebonics? BC almost nobody is from DC except for the black population. Or so I have been told. This nasal thing you speak of sounds like the rural Pennsylvania accent. An ex had this and it came out when he drank. That twang was almost enough to drive me away. .

I also do not like ebonics. The word axed as in I axed you a question really really bugs me.

Connect_the_Dots 06-04-2003 12:34 PM

Where it's at.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by spookyfish

Country boy:
"Okay, then. Can you tell me where the library is at, asshole?"
WOW. Scary.

robustpuppy 06-04-2003 12:36 PM

accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Connect_the_Dots
If mentioned to a a real long islander, or person within 100 miles of NYC, the convo would go like this:

LI: Where you taking your vacation at?

Timmy: Don't end a sentence with a preposition, end it with a noun.

LI: OK. Where you taking your vacation at, asshole?
Go ahead and mock Long Islanders, CtD, but at least do so accurately. This joke makes no sense, because Long Islanders do not generally make that particular verbal error. In fact, I never heard anybody end a sentence with "at" in that way until I went south.

Edited to add: not everybody from LI talks like Rosie O'Donnell, and Joey Buttafuoco ... unless they're pissed off.

greatwhitenorthchick 06-04-2003 12:38 PM

Grating accents
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
An ex had this and it came out when he drank. That twang was almost enough to drive me away. .

I can't even do my old accent when sober because I've tried so hard to lose it, but when I'm drunk it comes right out - I can't control it. It's like an evil beast lurking within.


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