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Sidd Finch 04-20-2005 02:02 PM

NRO II
 
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Originally posted by bilmore
What Jonah Goldberg says goes for me, too:

"Having been burned several times in recent months taking MSM coverage of conservatives at face value, I would like to see Delay's comments about Justice Kennedy and the internet in a larger context. But if he really thinks its inappropriate for a Supreme Court justice to do his own research on the web, then he really is off his feed."

Fox News is now the MSM?

bilmore 04-20-2005 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Fox News is now the MSM?
As much as CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, and the rest, sure.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 04-20-2005 02:08 PM

DeLay
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Sidd is a fucking attack dog- eh?

I don't care if they cut this guy's nuts off, I was just suggesting that the quote wasn't attacking the fact of internet research, just who did it- as Sidd is quick to point out- the quote was "he does his own Internet research." he does his own, implies that Delay's problem is not that internet research is itself malum per se, but rather he doesn't think Kennedy should be doing it. Why? fuck I don't know.
Because the law clerks would certainly be a more capable researcher.

SlaveNoMore 04-20-2005 02:15 PM

Rats and Zingers
 
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Diane_Keaton
There are plenty of savvy Latin American Cardinals that don't need "grooming", thank you Vaticano. If they are really working from that "grooming" theory, that's pretty demeaning. Anyways, if they're waiting for this German guy to croak, those former Hitler Youths can live a long time. And yes, I take offense to the fact that of ALL the damn Cardinals out there, they had to pick the ONE fucking redhat who (as admitted in his biography) was a Hitler Youth. (And don't give me the "fled to the foot of the Austrian mountains" thing cause I saw that movie already).
I often agree with you - but on this one you should shut the fuck up.

"Hitler Youth" was mandatory back then for children of a certain age. Otherwise, your family would slowly be ostracized right out of their house into a work camp.

Gattigap 04-20-2005 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
As much as CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, and the rest, sure.
Wow. Murdoch will be pissed to hear that they carry no more credibility than the godless commies at CBS.


How about WSJ Op-Ed?
Powerline?
NRO?

It'll be good to know when I should stop trusting them, too.

SlaveNoMore 04-20-2005 02:19 PM

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Gattigap
How about WSJ Op-Ed?
Powerline?
NRO?

It'll be good to know when I should stop trusting them, too.
I'll IM you and shoot you a heads up.

Sexual Harassment Panda 04-20-2005 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
As much as CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, and the rest, sure.
And the godless heathens of the NYT?

Sidd Finch 04-20-2005 02:24 PM

DeLay
 
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Because the law clerks would certainly be a more capable researcher.

Yeah. I mean, who would trust a Justice of the Supreme Court over someone who hsa been out of Yale law school for, like, a whole year or two?

sgtclub 04-20-2005 02:28 PM

NRO II
 
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Originally posted by Gattigap
Wow. Murdoch will be pissed to hear that they carry no more credibility than the godless commies at CBS.


How about WSJ Op-Ed?
Powerline?
NRO?

It'll be good to know when I should stop trusting them, too.
NRO jumped the shark when Buckley stepped down. WSJ Op-Ed when Gigot took over. The Powerline guys are mostly hacks.

Sidd Finch 04-20-2005 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
As much as CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, and the rest, sure.
Wow. And here I was, thinking the dread MSM was the equivalent of the Liberal Media. Or is Fox part of that cabal, too?

I don't suppose it much matters to you that DeLay's comments were made in an interview on Fox.

Context is the new nuance.

Anntila the Hun 04-20-2005 02:33 PM

NRO II
 
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Originally posted by sgtclub
NRO jumped the shark when Buckley stepped down. WSJ Op-Ed when Gigot took over. The Powerline guys are mostly hacks.
Yes, thank God for the patriots at Drudge, Talon News and Newsmax.

Diane_Keaton 04-20-2005 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I often agree with you - but on this one you should shut the fuck up.

"Hitler Youth" was mandatory back then for children of a certain age. Otherwise, your family would slowly be ostracized right out of their house into a work camp.
Not joining the Hitler Youth did not mean you were going to any camp necessarily. That sounds nice but wasn't the case. There were families who refused to register their kids and while they were thorns in the side of the Nazis and were harrassed, not all were killed or sent to a work camp. And it is sad that the new Pope defends his wartime service with a German army anti-aircraft unit (which was served by Jewish slaves from camps) by saying he never fired a bullet or personally killed a Jew and he eventually deserted. Well that's nice. But we're talking about the highest ranking position in a religion which praises someone dying on a cross for a good cause. I read somewhere it being summed up pretty well that while Ratzinger wasn't an enthusiastic Hitler Youth or military man, he and his family made their choice on how to deal with the Nazi movement. In contrast to the Ratzingers's decision, men and women of much lesser spirituality made decisions concerning the Nazis that were riskier to themselves than the Ratzingers; because it was the right thing to do. I expect the highest rank of the Catholic Church to have taken the most honorable actions back then even if it involved some sacrifice.

Bottom line -- with all he saw: coughing, sick, starving workers in his unit, Jews being herded into camps, the Ratzingers took nobody under their wing. They split for their country digs and hid out like a bunch of pussies.

SlaveNoMore 04-20-2005 02:48 PM

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sgtclub
NRO jumped the shark when Buckley stepped down.
WFB was never on NRO

Unlike...say Justice Kennedy...Mr. Buckley is not internet savvy

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 04-20-2005 02:53 PM

DeLay
 
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Yeah. I mean, who would trust a Justice of the Supreme Court over someone who hsa been out of Yale law school for, like, a whole year or two?
Weren't some jackass senators bitching about law clerks run amok a couple of years back? Like the judges couldn't control them or something? Probably after the Lazarus book came out.

Not Bob 04-20-2005 02:58 PM

Rats and Zingers
 
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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Bottom line -- with all he saw: coughing, sick, starving workers in his unit, Jews being herded into camps, the Ratzingers took nobody under their wing. They split for their country digs and hid out like a bunch of pussies.
Not that a Vatican II baby like me is thrilled with the election of an arch-conservative as pope, but he was a teenager at the time.

And if Saul the persecutor of early Christians can become Paul the great evangelist, and if Augustine and Francis of Assisi can turn from sinfully wicked youths into holy men, then a kid who didn't run an extraordinary risk to help Jews in 1945 can possibly have become a better person since then.

In short, I think that he's a bad choice (but I hope I am wrong) on his theology and his lack of tolerance for respectful dissent, not because of his history.


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