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Originally posted by bilmore
Shades of November.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...800553_pf.html

Holy shit. I can hardly believe that's real. That is the most unintentionally funny story I've read in a long time.

I love this part:

In the end, 450 dead animals lay on top of one another in a billowy white pile, the Aksam newspaper said. Those who jumped later were saved as the pile got higher and the fall more cushioned, Aksam reported.

Maybe the others would have fared better had they been roaring drunk.

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Originally posted by spookyfish
Holy shit. I can hardly believe that's real. That is the most unintentionally funny story I've read in a long time.

I love this part:

In the end, 450 dead animals lay on top of one another in a billowy white pile, the Aksam newspaper said. Those who jumped later were saved as the pile got higher and the fall more cushioned, Aksam reported.

Maybe the others would have fared better had they been roaring drunk.

How can you not be depressed by that.

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
How can you not be depressed by that.

Easy. I am a cruel, heartless individual with a sick sense of humor.

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ltl/fb
How can you not be depressed by that.

[bad joke]You're right, it's saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad[/baaaaad joke]

At least the families are going to eat well for a while. And sport new sweaters.

Just in case anyone wondered

I'm opposed to this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050709/...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Spree: Remains of Founder of the Mothers of the Plaza of the Fifth of May identified in rural cemetery. Kidnapped and killed by Argentinian government 3 decades ago. Definitely one of the most civilized and honorable protest groups ever founded, and I hope Argentina kills the motherfuckers who did this. Whether they are from the left or right, no matter. There is simply no good excuse for this.

Atticus, I'm sorry, please come home now.

Hello

Rats, someone stole my idea

He'd like to buy the world a Coke...

Deep thinking Deepak Chopra on the London attacks:

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The terrorist attack in London yesterday has once again created deep anguish in our collective soul. Around the world people yearn to find peace and give solace to the suffering and bereaved. Once again the clash of polarized enemies clamors for attention. Al-Qaeda takes pride in this heinous and sordid crime, while Western nations seek to bring the terrorists to justice. Yet it would be naive to take the simple way out and call this an example of pure evil and depravity.

In a very real way we are all part of the London tragedy. Everyone is caught in the tangled web of social injustice, economic disparities, ecological disaster, war, and terrorism. Unless we accept this fact, we will continue with our madness of an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Mahatma Gandhi declared that if we continue on this path the whole world would go blind. Will we ever see through our blindness and create a global community of connected humanity? To promote peace today means promoting a critical mass of consciousness where violence is never an option.

London, like the attacks in Madrid, Bali, and Indonesia before it, should make us want to live for peace above all. I understand how it's possible to respond to terrorism with deep anger; I cannot understand responding to it with anger that goes on and on forever. There are causes behind every terrorist act and therefore hope that these causes can be changed, even as we continue to pursue justice. We still ignore the source of global instability: religious fundamentalism which has its roots in extreme poverty, where 50% of the world lives on $2 per day, 20% of it on less than $1 per day, a world where 8 million people die each year because they are too poor to survive.

Terrorism also festers because of a lack of education, toxic nationalism, ignorance about the outside the world, and deep economic disparities. Twenty thousand children died yesterday of hunger-related causes around the world, twenty thousand will die today, and twenty thousand tomorrow. That is not part of the evening news. Why not?

Nature abhors a deep imbalance. The human species has become the most dangerous predator on our planet. Nature might be saying to herself, "Human beings were an interesting experiment that didn't work, so let's move on." Or, perhaps, our self awareness has reached a turning point.

Inside ourselves we've always carried the seeds of creativity. The next creative leap isn't a mystery. Millions of people are ready to join in harmonious interaction with Nature -- and with our own complex inner nature -- to create a world of peace, harmony, laughter and love. Let us strengthen our intention to create that critical mass of peace consciousness. Every tear can be a drop of nourishment for the new world that wants to be born and is making itself known little by little, every day. Each one of us can help create this critical mass by becoming the embodiment of peace conciousness through peace practices:

Being Peace
Thinking Peace
Feeling Peace
Speaking Peace
Acting Peace
Creating Peace
Sharing Peace
Celebrating Peace.

Um, this is a wonderful sentiment in theoryand all...but he really needs to remove his head from his ass and wake the fuck up.

He'd like to buy the world some Coke...

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Originally posted by Deepak Chopra
The human species has become the most dangerous predator on our planet.

Haven't humans always been the top of the predator list on Earth? I just came back from one of those Rodizio places where they bring round to everyone spools with meat (mmmmn, meat) from just about every animal on Earth for us to sample. Including relatively large predators. So I'm feeling pretty high up on the food chain tonight. Did I miss the age of Earth when we only narrowly edged out Foie Gras as the number one predator?
http://www.renoirhotel.com/images/NewChurrasco8x10.jpg

He'd like to buy the world a Coke...

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Deep thinking Deepak Chopra on the London attacks:

Um, this is a wonderful sentiment in theoryand all...but he really needs to remove his head from his ass and wake the fuck up.

This isn't a wonderful sentiment. It is this type of thinking that creates the situation we live in. Peace is not the ultimate good. Peace without human rights is like having a beautiful house in the middle of the Antartica (without heating). You don't work for peace. You work for other stuff and Peace is a good by product of those achievements. Peace movements made WWII a thousand times worse than it had to be. You work to promote Justice. And if justice is achieved you will get peace. When was the last time a "peace movement" accomplished anything positive.

He'd like to buy the world a Coke...

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Spanky
This isn't a wonderful sentiment. It is this type of thinking that creates the situation we live in. Peace is not the ultimate good. Peace without human rights is like having a beautiful house in the middle of the Antartica (without heating). You don't work for peace. You work for other stuff and Peace is a good by product of those achievements. Peace movements made WWII a thousand times worse than it had to be. You work to promote Justice. And if justice is achieved you will get peace. When was the last time a "peace movement" accomplished anything positive.

I said theory. Or in kids books.

You know, like how everyone was all happy and peaceful in the land of the Sneetches - once Sylvester McMonkey McBean took all their money and they stopped one-upping each other.

He'd like to buy the world some Coke...

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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Haven't humans always been the top of the predator list on Earth? I just came back from one of those Rodizio places where they bring round to everyone spools with meat (mmmmn, meat) from just about every animal on Earth for us to sample. Including relatively large predators. So I'm feeling pretty high up on the food chain tonight. Did I miss the age of Earth when we only narrowly edged out Foie Gras as the number one predator?
http://www.renoirhotel.com/images/NewChurrasco8x10.jpg

there aren't predators at our's. What predators do you have?

He'd like to buy the world some Coke...

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Diane_Keaton
Haven't humans always been the top of the predator list on Earth? I just came back from one of those Rodizio places where they bring round to everyone spools with meat (mmmmn, meat) from just about every animal on Earth for us to sample. Including relatively large predators. So I'm feeling pretty high up on the food chain tonight. Did I miss the age of Earth when we only narrowly edged out Foie Gras as the number one predator?
http://www.renoirhotel.com/images/NewChurrasco8x10.jpg

You may want to avoid those churrascarias, as it's my understanding that in the not-so-distant future, the Chorizo, the Chicken Heart and the Sirloin will all be vying for that coveted top spot on the food chain.

He'd like to buy the world a Coke...

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Um, this is a wonderful sentiment in theoryand all...but he really needs to remove his head from his ass and wake the fuck up.

Leaving aside the extreme level of fluffiness, so much of what he says strikes me as just plain wrong, wrong enough to be dangerous.

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Al-Qaeda takes pride in this heinous and sordid crime, while Western nations seek to bring the terrorists to justice. Yet it would be naive to take the simple way out and call this an example of pure evil and depravity.

I'm sorry, but random bombings are an example of pure evil and depravity. Period.

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religious fundamentalism which has its roots in extreme poverty

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Osama bin Laden is not poor. The Wahhabis are not supported by poor people. They feed on the poor but so does every form of extremism, religious or not. Wealth has not made Islam in the Middle East less extreme, but more, and that extremism is the root of this problem (and, I would argue, that extremism contributes to much poverty by distracting people from the business of development.)

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Terrorism also festers because of a lack of education, toxic nationalism, ignorance about the outside the world, and deep economic disparities. Twenty thousand children died yesterday of hunger-related causes around the world, twenty thousand will die today, and twenty thousand tomorrow. That is not part of the evening news. Why not?

Blah blah blah. The countries where most of those people are starving are not the source of terror and never have been. The poorest countries are in sub-Saharan Africa and they have never been exporters of terror, nor fertile recruiting grounds for terror, nor even particularly strong bastions of Islam (there are some exceptions to this -- i.e. Nigeria -- but even in Sudan, the poorest people are not muslim but animist.)

Working for peace is wonderful. But the illusion that we are responsible for terror because of our failure to spread the wealth is dangerous, even deadly. There is a connection between building wealth and fighting terror, but it's not the one Deepak sees.

He'd like to buy the world a Coke...

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Originally posted by Spanky
This isn't a wonderful sentiment.

Uh-oh. Looks like Spanky missed the "irony" again....

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Peace movements made WWII a thousand times worse than it had to be.

You were doing really well until that statement. Rather than tell you what I think about it, let me just ask -- huh? Cite, please? What are you talking about?