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The bills are somewhat incoherent on this, but yes, that is what it boils down to.

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"sniff"

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This bill isn't raising taxes on the middle class. If you own a home with a mortgage over $500k, outside of a city, you're probably upper middle class to affluent. If the state income tax deduction is significant to you, you either live in a place like NY, which means you're fairly well off relative to the rest of the country, or you're making decent coin.

This bill looks like it's targeting the upper middle class. If you plug in Adder's theory that people only care about their position relative to those nearest them (which I buy), Trump is targeting exactly the sort of effete professional sorts his base, the real low to middle classes, hates most.

Wentworth Plutocrat IV gets a fat tax break, and Purvis Coalcracker, who resents the college folk in the neighboring town, gets to spit in the eye of that fancy orthopedic surgeon he resents. You know... the one with the Range Rover and that Oriental wife.

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The money appears to be on Jared - https://www.thedailybeast.com/very-s...ussia-outreach

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Moar homes for Blackstone to buy and rent!

"Renting? That's unsane!"

"Not now! Now you've got a $24k standard deduction from Uncle Sam! You can live in one of those excellent Blackstone townhomes. It's the American dream with whipped cream and cherries on top. I'm getting an erection just thinking about the granite kitchen and stainless steel refrigerator and microwave! It's so tasteful. The most chic living, ever!"

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It's hard to keep up with exactly what the numbers are, especially as the substance of the bill keeps changing, but I thought I saw an analysis that said that 80% of households making less than $100k will see a tax increase. That's the middle class.

If that fancy orthopedic surgeon is not himself in the top 5%, he's doing it wrong. Heck, he's probably in the top 1%.

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The money appears to be on Jared being among them, anyway.

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It's OK they still have my name on the list at The Projects. Hopefully they didn't paint over my tag on the handball courts.

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Yeah, I don't know that it would turn enough Republicans against him. Many would pivot from "there's nothing to the Russia stuff" to, "he's allowed to do whatever he wants," but at least some wouldn't.

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I'm not interested in arguing with you about who is and is not middle class. A lot of people who identify themselves as middle class will get hurt by this bill, which is one reason why it is staggeringly unpopular and will only get mores if it passes. And Trump isn't "targeting" anyone -- if you think he designed this bill, I have a bridge to sell you.

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Looks like Mueller may have interviewed Kushner about this stuff after Flynn flipped.

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I think the bill is worst for the top 5% to .01%. Especially if the AMT stays.

The thing that is most upsetting is the ridiculous giveaways that remain, when IT ADDS OVER A TRILLION TO THE DEFICIT!!!

WTF happened to people like Paul Ryan? I have not been a fan of his for a while, but really? What ever happened to conservatives* not wanting to blow up the budget and hand our kids a giant bill? I'm as big a believer that the govt takes more than enough money already, but doing this without any meaningful entitlement reform is idiotic. Even for this GOP Congress.


*Whatever that term means now in the age of Trump and Moore. To me the term still means this:http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ficult-produce

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Set that ass up.

TM

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This is the most disappointing use of that phrase ever.

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Unlike you, they never believed it. The crocodile tears about deficits were a pretext to oppose government spending they didn't like.