| sebastian_dangerfield |
01-06-2017 11:11 AM |
Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
(Post 504887)
That's not actually true, since his people also exposed faux email as if they were true. But that's a quibble, and there's no point in quibbling over the facts with you because they're irrelevant. What you're doing is trolling. "Sure, Russia did some hacking and influenced the election, but it's Hillary's fault that she lost because she was a crappy candidate." The rest of us live in a world where things can have more than one cause. Maybe Hillary lost because she did things wrong AND because the media did a shitty job AND because James Comey is an ass AND because Russia was doing what it could to get a friend elected. The margin was super-close -- all of these things could have been material, and probably were.
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That's a fair quibble. So let's quibble. Those fake facts were a drip in a waterfall of other facts. You do not want to get into an argument of degree here, as it's almost the entire Wikileaks dump of 40k plus (Podesta alone) emails versus a handful of doctored emails.
And I never said there weren't multiple causes. That's your strawman. I agree there were multiple causes. I just highlighted Hillary's shitty campaign as a primary one. But yes -- the shittiness of her campaign far, far outweighed the impact of Russian hacking. And yes, her aggrieved supporters are now trying to blame a disproportionate amount of the loss on Russia, which makes them look like clowns.
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