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I've never heard of "JPost," so I'll go with the NYT on this. In any case, your accusation of anti-Semitism should cause you extreme embarrassment.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/23/wo...ence.html?_r=0

Also, what do you think is behind what you term, "pure hatred?" Do Palestinians hate Jews simply because they are Jewish? Or are they filled with hate and anger partly because they have been ejected from a land they believe is theirs and explode when they view further incursion on Palestinian territory and (in this case) the escalation of an exertion of control over holy sites in violation of a long-standing agreement by Israel?

I try to stay away from Israeli issues because I'm just not well-versed enough in the history to be as opinionated as I typically am. I understand that Israel is surrounded by people who would like to destroy them, but it seems to me that any criticism of Israel by anyone somehow automatically amounts to anti-Semitism, even if it relates to policy.

TM

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I'm assuming there is an earlier quote where he said what the article said he said. If not, then I take it back, but explaining the stabbing of women and children on city streets and the incitement of such by their leaders as having any motivation the US Secretary of State can understand is a fucked up thing.

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Huh?

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I responded to your earlier thing, but I agree that it is an unsolvable chicken or the egg thing. I do think that the Palistinians seem to keep escalating the horror of the attacks and too much of the World justifies, or understands, the motivation based upon what Israel did long before the attackers were born. As to whether there would be the same level of Jew hate without "the occupation" that is another chicken/egg. I can't look at it very clearly as my daughter was walking down sidewalks there a year ago where maybe she could be stabbed today.

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I disagree. If you feel oppressed and removed from what you believe is your land (on which sits many significant religious locations), it makes perfect sense that violence escalates when it looks like your oppressors are taking over more land and restricting you from religious sites. The underlying anger is generations old. But it boils over with each new perceived infraction.

In any case, let's say I didn't disagree. How does what you said above amount to, in any shape or form, anti-Semitism?

TM

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Just because it happened before they were born doesn't turn it into something other than what it is. I didn't suffer through slavery, Jim Crow, lynching, or severe racism. But I have anger about that stuff and the legacy of it I'm forced to deal with. You can say that I shouldn't have that anger because I didn't experience the overwhelming horror, but is someone who says they understand my anger anti-white?

TM

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For a party that never seems to elect or appoint anyone Jewish to public office, Republicans these days are sure throwing a lot of antisemitism charges at the party that does.

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poor word choice. less Israeli supporting that I might expect is what I meant.

Here's something else, I spend a month each fall in the City, this is the sixth year. I don't see gradual change so I might notice it where I might not if I lived here all year.

the number of people who are begging has increased dramatically each of the last few years, but worse, the apparent level of desperation has spiked. you can't barely sit on a long train ride without running into someone making a "car-wide" plea that might make you cry. I don't have an answer but something needs to happen.

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unless you've experienced a Jewish MIL please don't mansplain to me about this.

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If people would take a step back, they may realize that a touch of empathy--as opposed to complete and total fealty to the Israeli state and whatever comes from Netanyahu--might improve matters. If you're killing Palestinians at a rate of 6 per every Israeli death, then it may be best not to inflame the already-high tension levels on the Palestinian side. Hell, as far as I can tell, Palestinian leaders were more upset with Kerry based on (the totality of) what he said than Israelis were. If he were able to diffuse some of that anger, wouldn't that be better than saying?: "Palestinians have become more violent recently because they hate Jews."

I guess the question is, what do you want to do?

We can go the Giuliani route and either arrest the homeless or push them to the "non-premium" neighborhoods so it looks like they don't exist. Or we could provide housing and programs that might help them get some food, shelter, and mental care. Of course, apparently, absolutely no one wants a homeless shelter anywhere near their "premium" neighborhood and no one wants to pay for any of that, but everyone wants the problem fixed. Magic maybe?

TM

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Teach thy tongue to say "I do not know" and thou shalt progress.

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ummm, talking Philadelphia JMIL here, that I'm ignorant is an unfortunate fact she assumes from the start. But thanks for playing!

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Um, that's an old Maimonides quote, one popular among JMILs.

But I'm a little frightened by your Philly JMIL reference. I hope we aren't related.

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As though nothing has happened, or escalated, in recent years...

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I can't even tell you the number of times that goyim have called me anti-Semitic for pointing out that it takes two sides to engage in combat. I imagine it's kind of like how you feel when white folks try to tell you what it's like to be black in NYC. Except of course that I'm safely removed from the danger by a few thousand miles.