LawTalkers - I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

You left out that he only "won" because of an 18th century mechanism that was adopted to give southern slave states extra power so they could protect slavery.

Not Bob

01-09-2017 11:25 AM

Oh God, I am the American Dream/I do not think I'm too extreme.

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 504958)

This. I do not understand it. All he has to do is say the right words, but he refuses. Why?

"Vladimir Putin is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life."

I keed, I keed. I think he's just (a) an example of what the John Birchers once called "a useful idiot" and/or (b) a stubborn and thin-skinned bully who simply cannot express any concept suggesting that he is not the flawless and undisputed winner.

Not Bob

01-09-2017 11:33 AM

Well, I've always had a deep respect, and I mean that most sincerely.

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 504957)

Here's my theory about you: I think you think Trump shouldn't have won. I think you realize that with the voter suppression (whether it be formal, through bullshit voter id laws, or informal, through forcing people to stand on hours-long lines), the Russian hacking, Benghazi, Hillary's emails and suspicions of Clinton Foundation improprieties, James Comey's bullshit, the press sucking Trump's dick for ratings over the last year and a half, and the hyper-slim margin by which he won, you know Trump shouldn't have won.

But deep down, under all your bullshit posturing and your over-the-top, fake ass laissez faire attitude to everything, you really did want him to win. Now that he's done just that, you intentionally focus on the very few people who call him an illegitimate President in attempt to make that some type of theme you can rail against. You try to argue that, separately, all the things I listed above couldn't possibly have made the difference. But you absolutely know that, together, they certainly did. And that bothers you. It bothers you because you know the man is completely unfit to serve as President. And no matter how much you focus on the DNC's or Hillary's political strategy, or how many times you talk about how "people on the left just don't get it because jobs and robots, man," you know his election is about small-minded fools being tricked. And since you secretly wanted him to win, now you don't know how to feel about yourself.

I'm sure you'll have some ridiculous Sebbyesqu response where you argue that The Times and The Post were in the bag for the actual qualified candidate over the man-baby who knows fuck-all about everything or how I'm programmed to support only Democrats or some other stupid shit. But I don't really care. That's my theory.

TM

Eh. I was going to go with "just likes to be contrary" combined with a dose of "it's not my ox getting gored, so fuck it," but you may be right, too.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

01-09-2017 12:38 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 504957)

Here's my theory about you: I think you think Trump shouldn't have won. I think you realize that with the voter suppression (whether it be formal, through bullshit voter id laws, or informal, through forcing people to stand on hours-long lines), the Russian hacking, Benghazi, Hillary's emails and suspicions of Clinton Foundation improprieties, James Comey's bullshit, the press sucking Trump's dick for ratings over the last year and a half, and the hyper-slim margin by which he won, you know Trump shouldn't have won.

But deep down, under all your bullshit posturing and your over-the-top, fake ass laissez faire attitude to everything, you really did want him to win. Now that he's done just that, you intentionally focus on the very few people who call him an illegitimate President in attempt to make that some type of theme you can rail against. You try to argue that, separately, all the things I listed above couldn't possibly have made the difference. But you absolutely know that, together, they certainly did. And that bothers you. It bothers you because you know the man is completely unfit to serve as President. And no matter how much you focus on the DNC's or Hillary's political strategy, or how many times you talk about how "people on the left just don't get it because jobs and robots, man," you know his election is about small-minded fools being tricked. And since you secretly wanted him to win, now you don't know how to feel about yourself.

I'm sure you'll have some ridiculous Sebbyesque response where you argue that The Times and The Post were in the bag for the actual qualified candidate over the man-baby who knows fuck-all about everything or how I'm programmed to support only Democrats or some other stupid shit. But I don't really care. That's my theory.

TM

Remember the Sebby who thought Bill Clinton was the cat's meow, and was willing to forgive him his bits of venality?

Let's face it. Sebby is just another man who really likes testosterone addled old white guys but isn't so fond of ... everyone else.

Serious question: do the Trump people enjoy being morons? I mean, they must know they are saying idiotic things over and over again. I don't get embracing a self-image of being the village idiot.

sebastian_dangerfield

01-09-2017 12:47 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 504957)

Here's my theory about you: I think you think Trump shouldn't have won. I think you realize that with the voter suppression (whether it be formal, through bullshit voter id laws, or informal, through forcing people to stand on hours-long lines), the Russian hacking, Benghazi, Hillary's emails and suspicions of Clinton Foundation improprieties, James Comey's bullshit, the press sucking Trump's dick for ratings over the last year and a half, and the hyper-slim margin by which he won, you know Trump shouldn't have won.

But deep down, under all your bullshit posturing and your over-the-top, fake ass laissez faire attitude to everything, you really did want him to win. Now that he's done just that, you intentionally focus on the very few people who call him an illegitimate President in attempt to make that some type of theme you can rail against. You try to argue that, separately, all the things I listed above couldn't possibly have made the difference. But you absolutely know that, together, they certainly did. And that bothers you. It bothers you because you know the man is completely unfit to serve as President. And no matter how much you focus on the DNC's or Hillary's political strategy, or how many times you talk about how "people on the left just don't get it because jobs and robots, man," you know his election is about small-minded fools being tricked. And since you secretly wanted him to win, now you don't know how to feel about yourself.

I'm sure you'll have some ridiculous Sebbyesque response where you argue that The Times and The Post were in the bag for the actual qualified candidate over the man-baby who knows fuck-all about everything or how I'm programmed to support only Democrats or some other stupid shit. But I don't really care. That's my theory.

TM

Close in some regards, way off in others.

I am still surprised he won and didn't think he would. I do not think he shouldn't have won, or she should have won. I think to state that makes one a huge, pompous asshole.

I do think his winning has been hugely interesting. Fascinating even.

But did I want him to win? No. I was agnostic, and I remain so. But what I cannot stand is pompous twits whining after the fact. I'd have poked Trump fans for exactly the same thing had she won. So yeah, I'm being a bit of a troll. But you deserve it.

sebastian_dangerfield

01-09-2017 12:51 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 504965)

You're exactly the stripe of moron who keeps getting old white men elected. It's amazing. It's almost like you're a parody account. Bill Maher couldnt offer a more lurid caricature of a completely bubbled thinker.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

01-09-2017 12:58 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504967)

Wow. Profound and clever.

sebastian_dangerfield

01-09-2017 01:00 PM

Re: Well, I've always had a deep respect, and I mean that most sincerely.

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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 504964)

Eh. I was going to go with "just likes to be contrary" combined with a dose of "it's not my ox getting gored, so fuck it," but you may be right, too.

You should see me with the Trumpkins. I've heard TM's post in reverse, calling me "fucking liberal" more times than I can count.

But I do admit being hugely amused by most of Trumpland so far, except his pick of Sessions. We just elected a reality tv show for the next four years. Everyone has to admit some serious curiosity on Where This Goes.

Adder

01-09-2017 01:01 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 504968)

Wow. Profound and clever.

It's like they handed out some sort of script and everyone repeats it.

sebastian_dangerfield

01-09-2017 01:01 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 504968)

Wow. Profound and clever.

I responded in kind. When you deserve better, you get it. Here, you do not.

Adder

01-09-2017 01:06 PM

Re: Well, I've always had a deep respect, and I mean that most sincerely.

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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504969)

Everyone has to admit some serious curiosity on Where This Goes.

It's easy to be curious instead of fearful when you're a straight, white, cis dude. But hey, why try to view the world from anyone else's perspective, right?

One the the weirder aspects is all of the abject corruption. In that Trump's desire to build towers in China (or wherever) to enrich himself may actually prove a moderating force on his otherwise general insanity.

And it seems that his backers don't really care what he does as long as he says bad things about the people they don't like. Looks like he can get away with bribing/being bribed by foreign interests as long as he says Mexicans, China and Muslims are bad (while doing business with them).

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

01-09-2017 01:06 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 504970)

It's like they handed out some sort of script and everyone repeats it.

He's stayed one step above calling me a "cuck", but barely.

My question still stands, do these people actually embrace their stupidity as much as it appears? You try to have a conversation, and no matter what you say it is "emails" or "libtard" or some other I know I am but so are you answer. The closest experience I've had to Trumpworld and the Sebby-troll way of thinking is the junior high school boys locker room, but even there they could maintain enough logic to follow a few simple plays.

Adder

01-09-2017 01:17 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 504973)

My question still stands, do these people actually embrace their stupidity as much as it appears? You try to have a conversation, and no matter what you say it is "emails" or "libtard" or some other I know I am but so are you answer.

No, no, no. You're way behind. Now it's, "that you say this is why Trump won."

Like, "we voted for a sexist, xenophobic, bigot because you guys were condescending toward our ignorance."

Yeah, you really made us look bad there...

Tyrone Slothrop

01-09-2017 01:49 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 504957)

Here's my theory about you: I think you think Trump shouldn't have won. I think you realize that with the voter suppression (whether it be formal, through bullshit voter id laws, or informal, through forcing people to stand on hours-long lines), the Russian hacking, Benghazi, Hillary's emails and suspicions of Clinton Foundation improprieties, James Comey's bullshit, the press sucking Trump's dick for ratings over the last year and a half, and the hyper-slim margin by which he won, you know Trump shouldn't have won.

But deep down, under all your bullshit posturing and your over-the-top, fake ass laissez faire attitude to everything, you really did want him to win. Now that he's done just that, you intentionally focus on the very few people who call him an illegitimate President in attempt to make that some type of theme you can rail against. You try to argue that, separately, all the things I listed above couldn't possibly have made the difference. But you absolutely know that, together, they certainly did. And that bothers you. It bothers you because you know the man is completely unfit to serve as President. And no matter how much you focus on the DNC's or Hillary's political strategy, or how many times you talk about how "people on the left just don't get it because jobs and robots, man," you know his election is about small-minded fools being tricked. And since you secretly wanted him to win, now you don't know how to feel about yourself.

I'm sure you'll have some ridiculous Sebbyesque response where you argue that The Times and The Post were in the bag for the actual qualified candidate over the man-baby who knows fuck-all about everything or how I'm programmed to support only Democrats or some other stupid shit. But I don't really care. That's my theory.

TM

Sebby is less pro-Trump and pro-Republican than anti-Hillary and anti-Democrat, and unwilling to admit that it's a binary choice with real consequences. So, a lot of trolling Democrats, and a lot of insisting that there aren't differences between the two.

Tyrone Slothrop

01-09-2017 01:50 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 504958)

This. I do not understand it. All he has to do is say the right words, but he refuses. Why?

Because he is an insecure narcissist who sees his legitimacy being challenged and cannot keep from lashing out.

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