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Tyrone Slothrop 01-09-2017 01:52 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504966)
But what I cannot stand is pompous twits whining after the fact. I'd have poked Trump fans for exactly the same thing had she won. So yeah, I'm being a bit of a troll.

No, you would have thought they were losers, not pompous, whining twits, so you wouldn't have bothered poking them.

ThurgreedMarshall 01-09-2017 02:53 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504966)
Close in some regards, way off in others.

I am still surprised he won and didn't think he would. I do not think he shouldn't have won, or she should have won. I think to state that makes one a huge, pompous asshole.

I do think his winning has been hugely interesting. Fascinating even.

But did I want him to win? No. I was agnostic, and I remain so. But what I cannot stand is pompous twits whining after the fact. I'd have poked Trump fans for exactly the same thing had she won. So yeah, I'm being a bit of a troll. But you deserve it.

More confusion.

What exactly would it take for people to be legitimately upset about the outcome of an election? The FBI making bullshit statements at the last minute, actual voter suppression, and our biggest foreign rival interfering in the results isn't enough?

And what the fuck do you mean you would poked Trump fans for exactly the same thing? What the hell would they have to complain about? (And if you say the press being in the bag for an actual candidate and not a fucking clown, you're an idiot.) They'd be yelling about voter fraud, except THAT SHIT DOESN'T ACTUALLY EXIST. Is that what you're talking about? You'd troll them at one of your cocktail parties over made up shit like you're trolling us over actual issues?

Whatever. This is stupid. I don't know why I'm trying to figure out your thought process because you don't really have one. You just want to seem like an outsider who is above it all when you're really just full of shit.

TM

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-09-2017 03:23 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 504978)
More confusion.

Whatever. This is stupid. I don't know why I'm trying to figure out your thought process because you don't really have one. You just want to seem like an outsider who is above it all when you're really just full of shit.

TM

I'm taking this as an answer to my question about village idiots with respect to Sebby. It sounds like you think he's not aware of the fact that he sounds full of shit and like a village idiot.

Is that the case with all the Trumpers? Do they not realize what idiots they sound like, or do they just not care and actually enjoy knowing they sound like an idiot.

There is a conversation going on on someone's page over on facebook where a Trumper keeps denying Trump mocked a disabled person, or that it doesn't somehow amount to mocking because Trump is an ass to others, too. Does he not realize that he sounds like a total idiot?

ThurgreedMarshall 01-09-2017 04:00 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 504979)
I'm taking this as an answer to my question about village idiots with respect to Sebby. It sounds like you think he's not aware of the fact that he sounds full of shit and like a village idiot.

Is that the case with all the Trumpers? Do they not realize what idiots they sound like, or do they just not care and actually enjoy knowing they sound like an idiot.

There is a conversation going on on someone's page over on facebook where a Trumper keeps denying Trump mocked a disabled person, or that it doesn't somehow amount to mocking because Trump is an ass to others, too. Does he not realize that he sounds like a total idiot?

Different. Sebby isn't an idiot. He just believes his ridiculous arguments about how everyone but him is programmed and how he and his opinions are free as a bird.

That's very different than the person you're describing who is a fucking moron and who will justify anything Trump does because he doesn't have two brain cells to rub together.

TM

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-09-2017 04:12 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 504980)
Different. Sebby isn't an idiot. He just believes his ridiculous arguments about how everyone but him is programmed and how he and his opinions are free as a bird.

That's very different than the person you're describing who is a fucking moron and who will justify anything Trump does because he doesn't have two brain cells to rub together.

TM

Since the election, Sebby seems to be competing with himself for dumbest comment every just about every day.

Sometimes I'm worried we're seeing a degenerative brain disorder at work. But mostly I'm just pissed at his latest idiocy.

ThurgreedMarshall 01-09-2017 05:14 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 504979)
Is that the case with all the Trumpers? Do they not realize what idiots they sound like, or do they just not care and actually enjoy knowing they sound like an idiot.

https://i.imgur.com/A5V7svI.png

TM

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-09-2017 05:33 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 504988)

Oy. Vey.

Pretty Little Flower 01-09-2017 05:49 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504971)
I responded in kind. When you deserve better, you get it. Here, you do not.

You're overrated. Calm down. Fuck you. It's a new voice in the Daily Dose today. Clarence Reid. "Nobody But You Babe." I think we all know who this is going out to. (It's Sebastian.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ut9XQBAol0

sebastian_dangerfield 01-09-2017 11:59 PM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 504977)
No, you would have thought they were losers, not pompous, whining twits, so you wouldn't have bothered poking them.

I don't see much difference between the complaints of the Trumpkins pre-election and the complaints of the Hillary fans post-election. "The election was corrupted!" That's the essential pitch. The Trumpkins would've been insufferable.

I'd have poked. Hell, how couldn't you? A vein that rich?

sebastian_dangerfield 01-10-2017 12:11 AM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 504982)
Since the election, Sebby seems to be competing with himself for dumbest comment every just about every day.

Sometimes I'm worried we're seeing a degenerative brain disorder at work. But mostly I'm just pissed at his latest idiocy.

Since the election, you've offered nothing but a torrent of explanations for why your candidate's loss was not her fault. Everyone else is at fault. Everyone's a fool, or a bigot. Save you, in your bubble.

I have poked you. That's probably bad form. But you're such an easy target. If you don't understand why, I honestly don't know how to help you.

Sometimes, I think I might have a horse in the race. Sometimes, I think it's just wildly interesting to watch people explain why they believe in this or that. I'm not sure either one of us understands me. But I don't care to do so. It's more entertaining to simply run through the debate and see how pretzeled it all becomes. Religion and politics... grandmother advised avoiding them for good reason.

I don't know where this leaves things. But if it makes you feel better to call me stupid - if it's a zero sum game for you, and you need that sort of thing - I'm obviously happy to go along. Just try to be a little more open minded. Being this predictable, this binary, this obvious, risks boring everybody.

sebastian_dangerfield 01-10-2017 12:36 AM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 504978)
More confusion.

What exactly would it take for people to be legitimately upset about the outcome of an election? The FBI making bullshit statements at the last minute, actual voter suppression, and our biggest foreign rival interfering in the results isn't enough?

And what the fuck do you mean you would poked Trump fans for exactly the same thing? What the hell would they have to complain about? (And if you say the press being in the bag for an actual candidate and not a fucking clown, you're an idiot.) They'd be yelling about voter fraud, except THAT SHIT DOESN'T ACTUALLY EXIST. Is that what you're talking about? You'd troll them at one of your cocktail parties over made up shit like you're trolling us over actual issues?

Whatever. This is stupid. I don't know why I'm trying to figure out your thought process because you don't really have one. You just want to seem like an outsider who is above it all when you're really just full of shit.

TM

1. I think there's a valid gripe about Comey. That was highly inappropriate. He should be investigated first, the Russians second. This is part of what makes the Russian story look like spin. Somebody's ducking the serious inquiry of a US agency and its head in favor of blaming things on an easy villain.

2. I'd have poked Trump fans who'd have whined about losing. They'd have said it was fixed by a biased media. They'd be correct about general media slant. But as I said earlier, in another post, I'd say all the interference and biases were a wash. The only thing that might've thrown off the balance was Comey. I have no doubt in the least this line would've exited my lips numerous times: "The FBI tried to gift you the election and your guy was such a shitshow he still lost! Get the fuck out of here with your bullshit whining."

I doubt anyone would argue voter fraud around me. That's for the cave dwelling Trumpkins. No sane person buys the notion that exists to an extent anywhere near adequate to sway an election today.

3. I'm not an outsider. I'm just a skeptic.

sebastian_dangerfield 01-10-2017 12:47 AM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 504973)
He's stayed one step above calling me a "cuck", but barely.

My question still stands, do these people actually embrace their stupidity as much as it appears? You try to have a conversation, and no matter what you say it is "emails" or "libtard" or some other I know I am but so are you answer. The closest experience I've had to Trumpworld and the Sebby-troll way of thinking is the junior high school boys locker room, but even there they could maintain enough logic to follow a few simple plays.

I'm flattered you've thought about me enough to construct a Brietbart fan alter ego for me. The problem is, if you go back through our exchanges, it's you who's most quickly and lazily degraded to personal attacks and stereotyping.

I've never said anything along the lines of alt-right gibberish like "cuck." Everyone sees what you're doing here.

SEC_Chick 01-10-2017 08:49 AM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504995)
I'm flattered you've thought about me enough to construct a Brietbart fan alter ego for me. The problem is, if you go back through our exchanges, it's you who's most quickly and lazily degraded to personal attacks and stereotyping.

I've never said anything along the lines of alt-right gibberish like "cuck." Everyone sees what you're doing here.

If you have engaged with the real alt-right on Twitter or anywhere else, you know Sebby is in no way alt-right.

I think that Sebby may "short-circuit" some of his rationale, but that's no worse than what others have done. I think I have established I am not a fan of Trump, but I understand why many voted for him over Hillary, and continue to be a bit confused that certain people fail to understand that those same people continued to be turned off by condescension.

But a lot of Trump supporters are idiots too. There's no denying that.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-10-2017 09:19 AM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 504993)
Since the election, you've offered nothing but a torrent of explanations for why your candidate's loss was not her fault. Everyone else is at fault. Everyone's a fool, or a bigot. Save you, in your bubble.

I have poked you. That's probably bad form. But you're such an easy target. If you don't understand why, I honestly don't know how to help you.

Sometimes, I think I might have a horse in the race. Sometimes, I think it's just wildly interesting to watch people explain why they believe in this or that. I'm not sure either one of us understands me. But I don't care to do so. It's more entertaining to simply run through the debate and see how pretzeled it all becomes. Religion and politics... grandmother advised avoiding them for good reason.

I don't know where this leaves things. But if it makes you feel better to call me stupid - if it's a zero sum game for you, and you need that sort of thing - I'm obviously happy to go along. Just try to be a little more open minded. Being this predictable, this binary, this obvious, risks boring everybody.

I don't think you're paying attention. My statement on cause of the loss, repeated over and over again, is that in a close election like this every cause is sufficient to explain the loss, so everyone is right. I'm really not terribly interested in why Hilary lost.

However, you are in the category of people who don't recognize the danger of the turkey who won. I continue to be shocked at that. As are many other people. That makes you part of the problem. In an ongoing way, not an historical one.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-10-2017 11:02 AM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 
By the way, with two well documented plagiarism charges against her, how is Monica Crowley still a nominee? Does Trump have some kind of a bet as to how low he can go?

https://mostlyfilm.files.wordpress.c...g_places02.jpg

If so, he's won already.


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