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barely_legal 06-10-2003 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by leagleaze
"It's human nature to want to be famous, even if it's short-lived, and reality shows make it so much easier these days. "

The reality article notes above that it is our nature to want to be famous.

I think that is an interesting statement. I have no wish to be famous at all. I hate being on camera, can't stand when it is forced on me, and never really feel the need to have all eyes on me when I walk in a room.

All the more irritating because I am on camera all the time, which I repeat I cannot stand, and frequently speaking in front of large groups, which is fine but hardly fame inducing.

Do you want to be famous? Why or why not?

I don't want to be famous, I don't need the grief that seems to come along with it in our society. It is too much to pay, too much loss of privacy, too much of people disecting your life.

Just not for me.
I only want to be famous if it comes with enough money for me to buy a compound and hire lots of staff to keep away the paparazzi.

Being famous and poor would suck ass.

purse junkie 06-10-2003 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by barely_legal
I only want to be famous if it comes with enough money for me to buy a compound and hire lots of staff to keep away the paparazzi.

Being famous and poor would suck ass.
In an artist/writer way, sure. In an actor/politician "every lurid detail of my life ends up on the front page of the National Enquirer," hell no. Like I want my family to know all that shit?

SlaveNoMore 06-10-2003 11:08 AM

Old Broadway
 
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greatwhitenorthchick
The last time I was at the Met, at the end a bunch of tourists rose to their feet and someone yelled "sit down, this isn't Hairspray". Which was decidedly un-Met-like behavior, but made me laugh.
Was it a Saturday matinee?

I won't go - even if its a sold out Levine-conducted Wagnerian - because of what I like to call the "Pennsylvania Soda and Chips" crowd.

They bus 'em in and you hear them cracking sodas and munching on chips the whole damn time.

not7yS

ThurgreedMarshall 06-10-2003 11:14 AM

Old Broadway
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Was it a Saturday matinee?

I won't go - even if its a sold out Levine-conducted Wagnerian - because of what I like to call the "Pennsylvania Soda and Chips" crowd.

They bus 'em in and you hear them cracking sodas and munching on chips the whole damn time.

not7yS
At last night's performance, this NJ/Penn/CT/whatever woman two rows in front of me kept talking throughout the whole first act. The guy two or three seats over from her was from NY. Before the second act started, he leaned over to her and asked her not to talk for the next half of the show. She said something I missed. He blew up and said, "Listen, I'm not paying $100 a ticket to hear you fucking yap! So, shut the hell up and watch the damn show. I don't want to hear it." (that is all but verbatim.) She got one of those "well I NEHver!" looks on her face, but was silent for the rest of the show.

Thurgreed(you gotta love New York)Marshall

purse junkie 06-10-2003 11:21 AM

Old Broadway
 
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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
At last night's performance, this NJ/Penn/CT/whatever woman two rows in front of me kept talking throughout the whole first act. Thurgreed(you gotta love New York)Marshall
She was not from CT. We are brought to the Nutcracker every year (no matter our religious denomination) as soon as we are old enough to toddle around in a frilly dress and by age six we're all appropriately mute at the theater.

Not boys, who stay noisy and obnoxious for years. So their parents never take them anywhere nice.

greatwhitenorthchick 06-10-2003 11:21 AM

Old Broadway
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Was it a Saturday matinee?

I won't go - even if its a sold out Levine-conducted Wagnerian - because of what I like to call the "Pennsylvania Soda and Chips" crowd.

They bus 'em in and you hear them cracking sodas and munching on chips the whole damn time.

not7yS
Friday night, actually. I don't really like matinees to begin with. But the group who stood up, while they didn't eat chips and drink sodas, were pretty rude. One of them started humming loudly during one of the arias. (he got hushed up pretty quick).

SlaveNoMore 06-10-2003 11:30 AM

Jerz
 
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greatwhitenorthchick
Friday night, actually. I don't really like matinees to begin with. But the group who stood up, while they didn't eat chips and drink sodas, were pretty rude. One of them started humming loudly during one of the arias. (he got hushed up pretty quick).
Probably the same rubes that booed Jiggy last night when he deservedly won the Conn Smythe.

Oh, and

Reason #42 why I cannot stand the Devils:

"Idiot fans that call me drunk at 2am to remind me that their team won the Cup whereas mine is looking for a winger and a new coach"

not7yS

Mister_Ruysbroeck 06-10-2003 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by leagleaze
"It's human nature to want to be famous, even if it's short-lived, and reality shows make it so much easier these days. "

The reality article notes above that it is our nature to want to be famous.

I think that is an interesting statement. I have no wish to be famous at all. I hate being on camera, can't stand when it is forced on me, and never really feel the need to have all eyes on me when I walk in a room.

All the more irritating because I am on camera all the time, which I repeat I cannot stand, and frequently speaking in front of large groups, which is fine but hardly fame inducing.

Do you want to be famous? Why or why not?

I don't want to be famous, I don't need the grief that seems to come along with it in our society. It is too much to pay, too much loss of privacy, too much of people disecting your life.

Just not for me.
I would rather be rich than famous. But rich is still pretty low on the list of things I want to do. Fame is a burden, from what I hear.

taxwonk 06-10-2003 11:32 AM

Hot for Teacher
 
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Originally posted by robustpuppy
Jesus Christ, those are the lyrics to the damned song!

Er, I mean, Wonk, oh, Wonk, those are the lyrics to the damned song!

R(but Wonk, where will I go, what will I do?)P
I've had it. You tell me that you can't stand kissing me because my moustache tickles your nose, and then you start gollywogging with some long-haired, full beard hippy who lived with his mother until he was 30.

When, oh when, will you realize that Peter Pan was a fairy tale, Wendy?

T(sniff...)W

robustpuppy 06-10-2003 11:35 AM

Hot for Teacher
 
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Wonkie's jealous
The difference is that Jesus doesn't have little bits of sausage pizza in his mustache.

evenodds 06-10-2003 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by leagleaze
I think that is an interesting statement. I have no wish to be famous at all. I hate being on camera, can't stand when it is forced on me, and never really feel the need to have all eyes on me when I walk in a room.

All the more irritating because I am on camera all the time, which I repeat I cannot stand, and frequently speaking in front of large groups, which is fine but hardly fame inducing.

Do you want to be famous? Why or why not?
I guess it depends on what you mean by being famous. I am not as narcissistic as my actor friends, so I do not crave recognition and acceptance from the general public. I do not want to be world-wide famous-famous, but I have no problem being photographed or filmed or being recognized places.

Being recognized used to make me incredibly uncomfortable, now I am used to hearing people saying just out of earshot "That's Even Odds, she . . . " as I walk through a room for whatever it happens to be.

The hardest part of being recognized by people you do not know is trying to place them in context when you meet them or having to satisfy their "tell me how I know you!" aggressiveness.

Even(not famous)Odds

leagleaze 06-10-2003 11:41 AM

Jerz
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Probably the same rubes that booed Jiggy last night when he deservedly won the Conn Smythe.

Oh, and

Reason #42 why I cannot stand the Devils:

"Idiot fans that call me drunk at 2am to remind me that their team won the Cup whereas mine is looking for a winger and a new coach"

not7yS
Hey Mr. let's bash Pennsylvanians, the team you were rooting for lost. And not only did they lose, they lost to New Jersey. NEW JERSEY. My God that has to hurt.

taxwonk 06-10-2003 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by leagleaze
"It's human nature to want to be famous, even if it's short-lived, and reality shows make it so much easier these days. "

The reality article notes above that it is our nature to want to be famous.

I think that is an interesting statement. I have no wish to be famous at all. I hate being on camera, can't stand when it is forced on me, and never really feel the need to have all eyes on me when I walk in a room.

All the more irritating because I am on camera all the time, which I repeat I cannot stand, and frequently speaking in front of large groups, which is fine but hardly fame inducing.

Do you want to be famous? Why or why not?

I don't want to be famous, I don't need the grief that seems to come along with it in our society. It is too much to pay, too much loss of privacy, too much of people disecting your life.

Just not for me.
A memorial placque at one of the hospitals I go to quotes a former director of the medical school as saying something along the lines of, "Don't worry about the work being important. Just work on getting it right. If it's worthwhile, its importance will be apparent." Or something like that.

That's sort of the way I feel. I do the best I can at work I enjoy. I know it has value for my employer and for me. If something I write or do has a greater impact than that, so be it. The one thing I know for sure is that if I spend my time trying to do something "important," I'll never have the time to actually do it.

greatwhitenorthchick 06-10-2003 11:53 AM

Jerz
 
Quote:

Originally posted by leagleaze
Hey Mr. let's bash Pennsylvanians, the team you were rooting for lost. And not only did they lose, they lost to New Jersey. NEW JERSEY. My God that has to hurt.
The Devils play boring hockey, that's why I hate them - not because of where they play (although they have sucky fans). Let's face it, a bunch of Canadians, Eastern Europeans and a couple of Americans lost to a bunch of Canadians, Eastern Europeans and a couple of Americans. Not a Jerseyite or Californian in the bunch.

ThurgreedMarshall 06-10-2003 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by evenodds
I guess it depends on what you mean by being famous. I am not as narcissistic as my actor friends, so I do not crave recognition and acceptance from the general public. I do not want to be world-wide famous-famous, but I have no problem being photographed or filmed or being recognized places.

Being recognized used to make me incredibly uncomfortable, now I am used to hearing people saying just out of earshot "That's Even Odds, she . . . " as I walk through a room for whatever it happens to be.

The hardest part of being recognized by people you do not know is trying to place them in context when you meet them or having to satisfy their "tell me how I know you!" aggressiveness.

Even(not famous)Odds
I didn't know the "Ho of the Year" award winner had such notoriety. But, I guess if you win 5 years in a row, people are bound to recognize you.

TM

Edited to add: I was wondering who would use the "ya momma" opening for a lame comeback. I thought it was going to be MR. But RP, congratulations.

robustpuppy 06-10-2003 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I didn't know the "Ho of the Year" award winner had such notoriety. But, I guess if you win 5 years in a row, people are bound to recognize you.
One would think you could ask ...


yo' momma!


Edited to add: TM, thank you for noticing. Of course the yo momma joke is lame, but I thought that was the point. Isn't it a tradition on the FB, Scroogie? While we're on the subject, it's hardly accurate to describe it as a "comeback," because the ho insult was not directed at me -- but I'm sure it's just a matter of time. Love and kisses, always, RP.


Grey Pubes 06-10-2003 12:03 PM

Hot for Teacher
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
The difference is that Jesus doesn't have little bits of sausage pizza in his mustache.
It's lonely down here. Sometimes we eat to compensate.

Grey Pubes 06-10-2003 12:06 PM

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[i]The one thing I know for sure is that if I spend my time trying to do something "important," I'll never have the time to actually do it.
Which is why we have run amok. God bless.

evenodds 06-10-2003 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I didn't know the "Ho of the Year" award winner had such notoriety. But, I guess if you win 5 years in a row, people are bound to recognize you.
Thanks for outing me, baby. I thought, by dropping the porn reference from my original post, I could continue to conceal it for a little longer.

Even(I'd like to thank all the people who made this award possible . . . )Odds

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 06-10-2003 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk

I do the best I can at work I enjoy. I know it has value for my employer and for me. If something I write or do has a greater impact than that, so be it.
That's more or less how I feel about fame. I don't want to be famous for being famous. What's the point? I don't crave attention, and certainly don't want to have a camera in my face at all times. On the other hand, if I accomplish something worthwhile (perhaps with a capital W), then the attendant fame would not be unwelcome. Of course, I suppose that's a different type of fame, more of the type that Even Odds talks about (E/O, are you the best hitter that ever lived?)--people know who you are because you've accomplished something they consider worthwhile, not because you happened to get turned down by a gold-digger on for love or money.

Anne Elk 06-10-2003 12:18 PM

Jerz
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
The Devils play boring hockey, that's why I hate them - not because of where they play (although they have sucky fans). Let's face it, a bunch of Canadians, Eastern Europeans and a couple of Americans lost to a bunch of Canadians, Eastern Europeans and a couple of Americans. Not a Jerseyite or Californian in the bunch.
How many Jerseyites or Californians play professional hockey?

notcasesensitive 06-10-2003 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by evenodds
Thanks for outing me, baby. I thought, by dropping the porn reference from my original post, I could continue to conceal it for a little longer.

Even(I'd like to thank all the people who made this award possible . . . )Odds
Nice of you not to call them the "little people". That could hurt a guy's feelings.

n(tho I'm sure there are at least 50 spammers per day who have a solution to that problem)cs

greatwhitenorthchick 06-10-2003 12:23 PM

Jerz
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Anne Elk
How many Jerseyites or Californians play professional hockey?
I have no idea. and your point is...
Mine was that you hate the team based on what they do, not where they play, because that is essentially meaningless apart from the character of the fan base.

Anne Elk 06-10-2003 12:32 PM

Jerz
 
Quote:

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick

Mine was that you hate the team based on what they do, not where they play, because that is essentially meaningless apart from the character of the fan base.
Agreed. The NJ fan base has very little character. The fan reaction to Jiggy's Conn Smythe win was embarassing. He deserved it.

Only 2 Jerseyites in the NHL and no Californians. Massachusetts and New York appear to be the most represented states. Lots of Czechs, Russians, and of course Canadians. I was surprised to see players from England, Ireland and South Africa.*


For the record, I like the Devils (but then again I don't know too much about hockey).

*This is not a demographic analysis, just my recollections based on a perusal of the rosters looking for players from NJ or Cal.

Not Bob 06-10-2003 12:36 PM

Jerz
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Probably the same rubes that booed Jiggy last night when he deservedly won the Conn Smythe.

Oh, and

Reason #42 why I cannot stand the Devils:

"Idiot fans that call me drunk at 2am to remind me that their team won the Cup whereas mine is looking for a winger and a new coach"

not7yS
Fuckers. I can almost sympathize with the Puddies for booing -- after all, their French Canadian goaltender had pretty good numbers, too.

Than being said, fuck them all. Fuck Pat Burns for appeasing the hockey gods at the last second by playing Ken Danyeko in game seven at home. I was certain that divine retribution was going to occur (frankly, I was *really* looking forward to Scott Gomez being smited by an angry hockey god), but Burns avoided it at the last second. Fucker.

Fuck ABC and their shitty camera angles. And, it's not bad enough that we see the Anaheim "I'll marry you if the Ducks win the cup" couple on camera AGAIN? Jesus. Fuck him for being an asshole (what, she isn't good enough to marry if some other team wins?), and fuck her for not telling him to go to hell when he came up with that brilliant idea.

Fuck Jeff Friesen and his whiny "they didn't love me in Anaheim" crap. They won't love you in Jersey next year when you stink up the place like you did in SoCal, pal.

Fuck the officials. Every year we hear that they are going to start enforcing obstruction rules, and that clutching and grabbing will be called. Bullshit. Come May and June, they act like fucking pro wrestling referees who don't see Superstar Billy Graham hit Dusty Rhodes with a chair because they are distracted by a manager in the ring. Face it -- you will NEVER call that penalty in the cup finals unless Scott Stevens actually takes Paul Kariya's wallet and watch after he mugs him. Eat another fucking donut, indeed. Fuckers.

All that being said, I have nothing against the Garden State. Princeton is a lovely town, and Atlantic City is fun. Bruce Springsteen is from there, and that's enough for me. But the Devils still suck. Fuckers.

sebastian_dangerfield 06-10-2003 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
A memorial placque at one of the hospitals I go to quotes a former director of the medical school as saying something along the lines of, "Don't worry about the work being important. Just work on getting it right. If it's worthwhile, its importance will be apparent." Or something like that.

That's sort of the way I feel. I do the best I can at work I enjoy. I know it has value for my employer and for me. If something I write or do has a greater impact than that, so be it. The one thing I know for sure is that if I spend my time trying to do something "important," I'll never have the time to actually do it.
Wonk, you just laid some serious shit on me there with that little missive.

I wrote a book a while ago but couldn't get it published. I stay up late at night rewriting it and for the life of me cannot give up the notion that I might get lucky and get published and that through the book, I'll at least have had some sort of impact on the world. As pragmatic as I am, the idea that I might leave this world without ever having made a definite footprint really sticks in my gullet. I wish I had your ability to find peace in what you do. That satisfaction seems so utterly fantastic an ellusive to me. Perhaps I'm naively holding on to delusions of grandeur. I just always thought there'd be more juive to this life than what I've currently got. How did you get to your contentment? Did it slowly creep in over time or did you resign yourself to making it so?

I can't stop writing this book, and its driving me crazy. Perhaps ADHD meds are in order...

paigowprincess 06-10-2003 12:43 PM

Has slave gone Hollywood or is this an identity crisis?
 
Why is he rooting for Anaheim, of all places, over the home team?

sebastian_dangerfield 06-10-2003 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
That's more or less how I feel about fame. I don't want to be famous for being famous. What's the point? I don't crave attention, and certainly don't want to have a camera in my face at all times. On the other hand, if I accomplish something worthwhile (perhaps with a capital W), then the attendant fame would not be unwelcome. Of course, I suppose that's a different type of fame, more of the type that Even Odds talks about (E/O, are you the best hitter that ever lived?)--people know who you are because you've accomplished something they consider worthwhile, not because you happened to get turned down by a gold-digger on for love or money.
I think I'm a whore for public attention. I hate people who rudely seek it in conversation, but I gotta admit, just like I loved being on the mound in little league, I fucking dig arguing in front of rooms full of people - the more eyes on me, the more I ham it up. I think I'd love being famous.

That said, if its a question of riches v. fame, I'll take the riches. I'd rather be exceptionally comfortable and avoid work than anything else.

So in a nutshell, if I have to work, I'll take a job that makes me famous, but I'd prefer to not have to work and be absolutely anonymous. Of course, being both rich and famous would be nice also.

str8outavannuys 06-10-2003 01:01 PM

for love or money
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
Neat, aside from the mustache. Am I the only one who sees that? Maybe it's a shadow.
Uh, who the hell looked at her face? Her body is beyond perfect.
That said, when I managed to tear my eyes away from her insane ratio, her face and smile and voice weren't bad either.

robustpuppy 06-10-2003 01:14 PM

for love or money
 
Quote:

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
Uh, who the hell looked at her face? Her body is beyond perfect.
That said, when I managed to tear my eyes away from her insane ratio, her face and smile and voice weren't bad either.
That's why the other four women who had already been selected to stay visibly sighed with relief when doofus eliminated her. With a couple of exceptions, all of the women on that show are extremely pretty, but being around that dazzler must have been tough on even the hardiest egos.

Seven of Nine 06-10-2003 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by barely_legal

Being famous and poor would suck ass.

It certainly didn't seem to bother Ghandi, Mother Theresa, or the Dalai Lama. Perhaps you should scale back on the materialism.

:P

Seven

lawyer_princess 06-10-2003 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I can't stop writing this book, and its driving me crazy. Perhaps ADHD meds are in order...
Don't stop writing it. Put it away for a month, then read it from beginning to end without skipping. Smooth out the rough parts, but don't overwrite. Have your friends read it. Don't quit.

NotFromHere 06-10-2003 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Seven of Nine

It certainly didn't seem to bother Ghandi, Mother Theresa, or the Dalai Lama. Perhaps you should scale back on the materialism.

:P

Seven

Screw that. What is fame without materialism? I'd totally like being famous - if it gets me service in stores and a decent table in a hurry at a restaurant. Currently I'm the invisible shopper - apparently I don't look like a "buyer" so no one EVER asks if I need help (which is fine if I'm just browsing but otherwise, maddening). So if fame can bring me a little groveling - I'll take it.
:bounce:

lawyer_princess 06-10-2003 01:27 PM

Crest White Strips
 
Anyone try these? I'm almost through with the two-week regimen and my teeth have never been whiter. I highly recommend them.

NotFromHere 06-10-2003 01:30 PM

Wrong kind of fame
 
NEW YORK, June 10 — ImClone Systems founder Sam Waksal was sentenced to seven years and three months in prison Tuesday for an insider-trading scandal that ensnared his family and threatens Martha Stewart and her home decorating empire.
HE ALSO WAS ORDERED to pay more than $4 million in fines and back taxes.
U.S. District Judge William H. Pauley rejected Waksal’s plea for a lighter sentence based on ImClone’s cancer research, Waksal’s humanitarian works and the intense media interest surrounding the case.
“The harm that you wrought is truly incalculable,” the judge said.
Earlier, with his voice breaking, Waksal apologized to his family and former employees just before he was sentenced.
“I am deeply disturbed and so very sorry for my actions,” he said. “I want to apologize to all the people who may have had confidence in me and whose confidence I betrayed.”
Waksal, who once rubbed shoulders with rock stars and cut a flamboyant figure in the mostly staid pharmaceutical industry, pleaded guilty in October to six counts, including securities fraud, bank fraud, conspiracy to obstruct justice and perjury. Waksal sentenced

barely_legal 06-10-2003 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by Seven of Nine

It certainly didn't seem to bother Ghandi, Mother Theresa, or the Dalai Lama. Perhaps you should scale back on the materialism.

:P

Seven

You can have their lives. You really want to bathe lepers? Or worse, hang out with Richard Gere?

purse junkie 06-10-2003 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by Seven of Nine

It certainly didn't seem to bother Ghandi, Mother Theresa, or the Dalai Lama. Perhaps you should scale back on the materialism.

:P

Seven

Perhaps they should scale back on the do-gooder saintliness (well, the one that's not dead, anyway). They make the rest of us look really, really bad.;)

ABBAKiss 06-10-2003 01:44 PM

for love or money
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
That's why the other four women who had already been selected to stay visibly sighed with relief when doofus eliminated her. With a couple of exceptions, all of the women on that show are extremely pretty, but being around that dazzler must have been tough on even the hardiest egos.
Can someone post a "ratio" shot of her then?

NotFromHere 06-10-2003 01:48 PM

More bad fame
 
June 10 — Will Madonna fall into the Gap? Lest it be said that the cutting-edge fashionista is no longer a force in the world of clothes, Madonna is close to signing a deal to do television commercials for the Gap, her spokeswoman tells The Scoop.
THE MATERIAL GIRL — who was once known for her Gautier pointed bras — will appear wearing corduroy jeans alongside rapper Missy Elliott.
She’s already scheduled to shoot the ads in Los Angeles later this month, though her spokeswoman says that there are some last-minute details to work out before the contract is signed.
“We’re moving forward on it,” says Madonna’s rep, Liz Rosenberg, “but it’s not a done deal.”
Madonna's long fall from the top

So it's come to this? Doesn't she have enough money? Why is she doing this? Does she even know where the Gap is?

soup sandwich 06-10-2003 01:49 PM

Crest White Strips
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lawyer_princess
Anyone try these? I'm almost through with the two-week regimen and my teeth have never been whiter. I highly recommend them.
My wife also has had good results with these. I tried them but I just couldn't stand having them on my teeth for half an hour. I'm currently trying the Colgate Night Whitening gel. That's the one you paint onto your teeth before bed. I'll give a review in a couple weeks.


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